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Erm Schmigget

#14820
February 14, 2008, 10:42:48 AM
Quote from: HopeConvert on February 14, 2008, 09:46:06 AM
OK: Thanks for the link. I agree with you concerning points 2 and 3, but I still guard the in-bounder, even if it's not a fool-proof defensive strategy. One of the reasons why the inbounds pass was perfect was because the inbounder didn't have to run the baseline or throw around or over someone. It's easier to be accurate when you don't have to do that. I have no data to back this up - if I were a coach I'd keep stats on this - but I suspect more games have been lost by not guarding the passer than by guarding him. That's how I recall things, at least. I don't really need someone playing free safety as much as I need pressure on the quarterback. So long as the other four guys are sticking to their man, I think the disruptive influence on the passer is more important than the potential of that person to harass the shooter.

Interesting to see who KVS put on the floor in that situation: Smith, Griffin, Engelsma, Zoerhof, and Koetsier.

One thing to keep in mind about defending the inbounds pass: sticking to your man in a wide open court is a tall order.  It's easier for offensive players to shake a defender by faking one way and drawing the defender out of position.  That's where a "free safety" can help by picking up the open man while the pass is still in the air.  

Calvin actually did this pretty well, imho, but the pass was just right (props to the passer, because he was running).  It was after the pass that things fell apart for Calvin.  Koetsier didn't fall for the decoy, but he didn't really commit on defense until Mocini put up the shot.  Engelsma made a solid effort to block the pass, but he looked like he didn't know what to do after Mocini headed past the midcourt line.  And Zoerhof wasn't really a factor...no hands up, backing away from Mocini.  However, if ifs and buts were candies and nuts...

I hope I don't sound too critical of Calvin's players.  That's not my intent.  They played a heck of a game from what I heard on the radio.  Even if you practice your defense for this situation, you don't get too many chances to execute it when it really matters.  I recall before the season started watching either the Hope men or women practice a last-seconds possession against whomever they were scrimmaging after the scrimmage was over.  Albion executed last night like they too had practiced this situation quite well.

Anyone else notice Leising open for a 3 also?
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Erm Schmigget

#14821
February 14, 2008, 10:46:55 AM
Quote from: Stinger on February 14, 2008, 10:23:02 AM

Quote from: sac on February 13, 2008, 11:14:04 PM

But I want to take everyone back to the 6:38 mark right about here:

GOOD! 3 PTR by Bill Leising                     06:38  44-43  H 1

This shot you had to see to believe, shot clock down to about 4 and Mr. Leising launches basically a set shot from I kid you not, 30 feet.........swish.  Albion's first lead since I walked in the door.  Amazing shot and ultimately one of the biggest shots of the season.

Seriously, it was like Rade from Hoosiers.   Leising's shot could have been on the Top 10 as well.

Mocini's has stepped up all season long, and it was no surprise to me that the ball went to him.  He had missed his previous 4 or 5 3's, but this one had no doubt.

Every time I read a write-up about the Leising shot it gets longer.  Albion's article has him 40 feet away.  I'm wondering if 3 or 4 more articles down the line will have him shooting from Olivet's court???   ;) :D
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calvin_grad

#14822
February 14, 2008, 10:51:34 AM
Quote from: HopeConvert on February 14, 2008, 09:46:06 AM
OK: Thanks for the link. I agree with you concerning points 2 and 3, but I still guard the in-bounder, even if it's not a fool-proof defensive strategy. One of the reasons why the inbounds pass was perfect was because the inbounder didn't have to run the baseline or throw around or over someone. It's easier to be accurate when you don't have to do that. I have no data to back this up - if I were a coach I'd keep stats on this - but I suspect more games have been lost by not guarding the passer than by guarding him. That's how I recall things, at least. I don't really need someone playing free safety as much as I need pressure on the quarterback. So long as the other four guys are sticking to their man, I think the disruptive influence on the passer is more important than the potential of that person to harass the shooter.

Interesting to see who KVS put on the floor in that situation: Smith, Griffin, Engelsma, Zoerhof, and Koetsier.

HopeConvert, my thoughts exactly!!  I couldn't have said it better myself.  Perfect execution by Albion and decent defense by Calvin after Mocini caught the ball, but I have got to believe that the pass is a lot harder to complete if Mantel or Englesma is waving his arms and jumping up and down in front of the inbounder.  That might have been enough to make the pass off a little bit.

Oldknight, we'll just have to agree to disagree on the coaching strategy on this one.

ChicagoHopeNut

#14823
February 14, 2008, 10:54:47 AM
I just saw ESPN's top ten. Great play again. I love the ESPN explanation Al-bi-on With a strong emphasis on "on." ;D
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HopeConvert

#14824
February 14, 2008, 10:58:48 AM
Quote from: DCHopeNut on February 14, 2008, 10:54:47 AM
I just saw ESPN's top ten. Great play again. I love the ESPN explanation Al-bi-on With a strong emphasis on "on." ;D
Slow day at law school? ;)

Yeah - they made Albion sound like it was bottled water.
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Stinger

#14825
February 14, 2008, 11:03:35 AM
Quote from: DCHopeNut on February 14, 2008, 10:54:47 AM
I just saw ESPN's top ten. Great play again. I love the ESPN explanation Al-bi-on With a strong emphasis on "on." ;D

HA! I was waiting for the other Anchor to follow up with "On Your Girlfriend!"
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Erm Schmigget

#14826
February 14, 2008, 11:07:12 AM
I'm interested in what those who were there would have to say about Zoerhof's offensive rebound of Griffin's missed FT.  How was he able to get to it, etc.?
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realist

#14827
February 14, 2008, 11:14:38 AM Last Edit: February 14, 2008, 11:21:05 AM by realist
Great win for Albion.  One has to hand it to Coach Turner.  He just knows how to coach in this type of game.  All season Calvin has problems on the boards, and when they finally do a decent job they fail to make the effort count.  Turner had a definite advantage at the end of the game.  Calvin has become predictable, and all Albion had to do was run the play they have pacticed for this scenario.  A better strategy for Calvin might have been to foul the inbounder, and live to play in OT.  The way to beat Albion is to force them to run, and not allow them to dictate tempo.  Worked  for Kalamazoo.
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Erm Schmigget

#14829
February 14, 2008, 11:28:22 AM
If there is one thing I've learned from this board it's this: There's more than one way to split a hair.

NW Hope Fan

#14831
February 14, 2008, 12:09:41 PM
So at the very end of the video in the upper right corner appears to be a very famous Albion fan...

"We are told that Christ was killed for us, that His death has washed out our sins, and that by dying He disabled death itself. ... That is Christianity. That is what has to be believed."

C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity

NW Hope Fan

#14832
February 14, 2008, 12:19:10 PM
The Goonies...
Stand by Me...
The Lost Boys...

Anyone???
"We are told that Christ was killed for us, that His death has washed out our sins, and that by dying He disabled death itself. ... That is Christianity. That is what has to be believed."

C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity

calvin_grad

#14833
February 14, 2008, 12:33:42 PM
Ironically, last night Calvin's women's team won on a last second shot.  2 buzzer-beaters on the same night.  What are the odds?

hopehoopfan

#14834
February 14, 2008, 12:36:51 PM
Quote from: NW Hope Fan on February 14, 2008, 12:19:10 PM
The Goonies...
Stand by Me...
The Lost Boys...

Anyone???

Cory Feldman, and why is he an Albion fan??
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