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[HopeConvert]

Just curious re: friday's game, for anyone who was there. Why do you think Venema saw only 4 minutes of floor time? It seems to me he might have been a tougher defensive matchup for Skemp, even though he's not as good a defensive player as Zach. With that sort of size advantage, I had thought we might see Venema and ZO on the floor at the same time.

[scottiedawg]

Just curious re: friday's game, for anyone who was there. Why do you think Venema saw only 4 minutes of floor time? It seems to me he might have been a tougher defensive matchup for Skemp, even though he's not as good a defensive player as Zach. With that sort of size advantage, I had thought we might see Venema and ZO on the floor at the same time.

While Venema has the size to guard Skemp, he doesn't have the quickness.  The smarts, effort, and quickness that Zach used to front, harass, and force Skemp to work hard are things Venema does not have yet.  I would have liked to see a bit more of Venema just to beat up Skemp a little.

[sac]

Skemp scored 2 points while Andy was on the floor.

[pointlem]

Andy also was able to post up on a shot and draw a foul from Skemp.  Where I was sitting, folks wished he could have played enough to try to draw some more fouls and/or to play with Zach.  Given his size, strength, and shooting and rebounding ability I do see a fine potential in him for the next two years.

[wiz]

Skemp scored 2 points while Andy was on the floor.

Venema didn't do any better than Ozburn.  With Venema in, Skemp scored 1 pt every 1.5 minutes.  With Venema out, Skemp socred 1 pt every 1.55 minutes.

But, Hope did a better job on him Wheaton did.  Andy Wiele is a strong post player and allowed Skemp to score 38 points in 40 minutes of play.  Skemp is a force!

[Dutchmen 4 Life]

Actually with Venema playing four minutes and only giving up 2 points that would be 1 pt every 2 minutes which would be slightly better than Osburn.  This is not to take anything away from Zach as he played a great game and really worked hard down in the paint.

With that said, if Venema works hard this off season, he will be force down low next year and really help Hope out.

[sac]

I know FDF has a nice summary planned for all the Hope Seniors at some point.  But I have to jump the gun just to point a couple things out.

First is Jesse Reimink finished with 604 points on the season, incredibly this is the 2nd highest point total in Hope history.  His average per game is 20.8 which probably ranks about 9th or 10th on Hope's per game avg list.

Career wise Jesse ends up 13th on the all-time Hope scorers list with 1441, just 14 behind Stephen Cramer.

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I found this to just be interesting in so many ways, but if the 2006 Hope team ever gets together for a reunion of some kind, there will a total of 5 career 1,000 point scorers in the room from that team.  (not 6 like I said at dinner the other night)

Stephen Cramer  1,455
Jesse Reimink 1,441
Andy Phillips 1,200
Greg Immink  1,113
Marcus VanderHeide 1,085

[AndersDY]

- Most shocking quote overheard at the game... one of the officials made a call that the ball was out off a Hope player, when it was clearly off a UWP player.  From what I saw, the UWP player was also clearly fouled by the Hope player.  When the Hope bench questioned the call, the official's response was "That was actually a foul on you, but I'm giving them the ball out of bounds".  Hmmm - I have always thought that this kind of "trade off" was done by officials, but to hear one openly admit it???

I was on the opposite side, but I thought that I saw him making that explanation. I've seen that happen enough times that I'm sure the officials know they are doing it; not quite harsh enough for a foul, but shouldn't then award the turnover instead, so just split the difference. I had never seen any official confirm that line of thinking being made though. As borderline and subjective as basketball officiating is, there would appear to be a place for that sort of compromise call, but I would think those who oversee officials would not want a ref to actually state that reasoning to the coach or players.

[Mr. Ypsi]

- Most shocking quote overheard at the game... one of the officials made a call that the ball was out off a Hope player, when it was clearly off a UWP player.  From what I saw, the UWP player was also clearly fouled by the Hope player.  When the Hope bench questioned the call, the official's response was "That was actually a foul on you, but I'm giving them the ball out of bounds".  Hmmm - I have always thought that this kind of "trade off" was done by officials, but to hear one openly admit it???

I was on the opposite side, but I thought that I saw him making that explanation. I've seen that happen enough times that I'm sure the officials know they are doing it; not quite harsh enough for a foul, but shouldn't then award the turnover instead, so just split the difference. I had never seen any official confirm that line of thinking being made though. As borderline and subjective as basketball officiating is, there would appear to be a place for that sort of compromise call, but I would think those who oversee officials would not want a ref to actually state that reasoning to the coach or players.

I, for one, find the ref's honesty refreshing.  Probably stupid, but refreshing!

[dumezrules]

Skemp scored 2 points while Andy was on the floor.

Venema didn't do any better than Ozburn.  With Venema in, Skemp scored 1 pt every 1.5 minutes.  With Venema out, Skemp socred 1 pt every 1.55 minutes.

But, Hope did a better job on him Wheaton did.  Andy Wiele is a strong post player and allowed Skemp to score 38 points in 40 minutes of play.  Skemp is a force!

Didnt see the wheaton UWP game but one could safely assume that Wheaton decided to take away the guards of UWP....
Hope decided to take away Skemp....Wheaton could see what that got them.....lots of easy buckets and wide open 3's. 

[goodknight]

Here's a big catch for the Knights to plug a hole in the backcourt:

Wyoming Park's Powell headed to Calvin College
Posted by Jane Bos | The Grand Rapids Press March 08, 2009 22:00PM
Categories: High School Basketball
WYOMING -- Bryan Powell, who became Wyoming Park's second all-time leading scorer Thursday, has made a decision to play basketball at Calvin College next season.

After scoring 26 points in a 74-65 win against Zeeland West in the season finale, Powell has totaled 1,259 points to become the Vikings' No. 2 all-time leading scorer.

He will have a tough time overcoming Drew Neitzel, who went on to star at Michigan State and now plays in professionally in Germany, though. Neitzel totaled 2,462 points in his four-year career.

Powell, who leads the Vikings into the Class B district tournament this week, is glad to have made his collegiate choice.

"Calvin has a great tradition in the court and in the classroom," Powell said. "It never crossed my mind to look into it until I saw their amazing facilities. I was like, 'Wow, this is what I worked hard for.' I am going into broadcasting and video production, and Calvin has great media classes.

"They are graduating three senior gaurds, and they play an up-tempo game that I like. There is honestly not much to say other than it is a perfect fit for a guy like me. I just hope I can keep that tradition of greatness going that Calvin has on the basketball court. When I made the decision, it felt like a weight has been lifted off my shoulders. It was a great feeling, so i know i made the right decision."

The 6-foot-1 Powell has scored 480 points this season for an average of 24 points per game. He also averaged 22 points a game a year ago. Wyoming Park, which hosts the district, is 12-8 overall.

Calvin is a Divison III school that does not give athletic scholarships, but Powell will get assistance thanks to grants and other scholarships.

Other schools that were interested, including some that offered Powell a full-ride scholarship, were Loyola-Chicago, Central Michigan, Ferris State, Northwood, Michigan Tech, Northern Michigan, Eastern Michigan, Cornerstone, Hope and Aquinas.

[usee]

Skemp scored 2 points while Andy was on the floor.

Venema didn't do any better than Ozburn.  With Venema in, Skemp scored 1 pt every 1.5 minutes.  With Venema out, Skemp socred 1 pt every 1.55 minutes.

But, Hope did a better job on him Wheaton did.  Andy Wiele is a strong post player and allowed Skemp to score 38 points in 40 minutes of play.  Skemp is a force!

Didnt see the wheaton UWP game but one could safely assume that Wheaton decided to take away the guards of UWP....
Hope decided to take away Skemp....Wheaton could see what that got them.....lots of easy buckets and wide open 3's.  

Not sure I understand what you are saying but Wheaton clearly decided not to double Skemp and it almost backfired. You could also say it worked pretty well since the rest of the Pios sans Skemp was 10-33 and only 5-17 from beyond the arc. Wheaton was 22-37 from the FT line and gave up a 6pt lead w 1.12 left in regulation. Not very characteristic of the Thunder but give UWP credit for forcing the TO's. That said Wheaton played their best post defense in the OT collecting 3 steals and converting them for the win.

UWP also played a slightly different lineup than they did vs Hope. Platteville had 3 guards in the game virutally the whole time and used the point as the entry point to the post. Whenever a defender would sag to help the post they quickly rotated the ball to the open shooter. The only critique I had was Wiele tried to front the post even when he was up at the elbow and he should have just stayed behind him at that point.

[GoKnights68]

Thanks for the post, GoodKnight.  Sounds like Powell is excited to play for Calvin, and he could make an immediate impact right a way, as guards are needed after graduating Veldhouse and Smith, to 4 year varsity players.

As for the poll on top, I think it is safe to say that the coaches will probably pick Hope to win the league, after returning 4 starters (am I correct?). 

[goodknight]

Thanks for the post, GoodKnight.  Sounds like Powell is excited to play for Calvin, and he could make an immediate impact right a way, as guards are needed after graduating Veldhouse and Smith, to 4 year varsity players.

As for the poll on top, I think it is safe to say that the coaches will probably pick Hope to win the league, after returning 4 starters (am I correct?). 

Oldknight has seen Powell play, and he's having trouble typing right now because his hands are vibrating with excitement at the prospect of this kid in maroon and gold.

[almcguirejr]

As for the poll on top, I think it is safe to say that the coaches will probably pick Hope to win the league, after returning 4 starters (am I correct?). 

I think Olivet will be a contender next year.