MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[HopeConvert]

As for the officiating:    Never helps when two of the guys are late and Ray Kelser and that other guy

That other guy was Merlin Nice.  He was Wabash's National Championship team in 1982.  That championship game was played at Calvin.

Wiz is right about Powell changing the momentum when he came in.  Calvin scored 7pts immediately.  Powell had 5 of those and he had an assist on the other 2.  

Schnyders did a nice job tonight.  He gave Calvin  a lift when he was on the floor.  

Matt Veltema was very good in the second half.  3 huge shots from the baseline and fouled on a fourth.  He also did a nice job rebounding.  

Calvin also did a great job on McClary.  He had a stretch at the start of the 2nd half but for the most part they limited him.

Salo a big 3 to put Calvin up 4 at the 2 minute mark and 2 freethrows with 16 seconds to go put Calvin up 4 again.

It was also great seeing Carrie Snikkers  wearing a maroon Calvin Knights T shirt.

When I saw Carrie there, she was wearing a blue Hope Basketball shirt. Unless she changed shirts at some point, I don't see how that can be.

[Knight In The Stan]

I'm in Florida and was not able to listen to the video feed because my computer access is so slow that I lost about 90% of the action.  Listening to the audio, I found myself wondering how in the world Calvin ever won!  Comments on Posting Up and the MIAA website helped things to make sense.   It was interesting to note that the first 7 or 9 points of the critical scores by Calvin came from subs.  The comments of about Olivet's lack of strong subs and the effect of playing starters too long made sense.

Where is Florida? I am also here and could host if you need a reliable computer for tonights game.

[oldknight]

People have commented on the officiating in the Calvin/Olivet game, and I have to say it was laughably bad (well, I could laugh, as I had no rooting interest). That said, I didn't think one team got the better of it. They just made bad calls all over the floor to the disadvantage of both teams. At one point in the 2nd half Calvin had 9 fouls to Olivet's 2. I suspect OK and GK put a bug in the official's ears and a string of fouls was called on Olivet.

I think you're right.  Calvin really started the road back when the officials decided to "even" things out. 

I don't know if it was evening things out as much as Olivet just started playing tired defense and hacking alot and being out of position.  It was noted the fouls went from 9-2 to 9-10 pretty quickly........and the last 9 fouls of game were called on Olivet, and Calvin didn't get whistled once in the last 9:48 (which is......uh, interesting come to think of it).


Tom Snikkers got the absolute worst of the officiating......4 really bad calls from my perspective went against him, and as often happens to Freshmen in big games, he was mentally out of it most of the night because of it.

Actually there was a call on Schuster at the 4:11 mark. Kerns made two FT's.

I agree that the officiating really bothered Snikkers the most and affected his game. That's the part of the game Tom needs to work on to become a consistently good player

[northb]

CALVIN just needs to take of business and not worry about who is ranked higher.

I'm sure that's the team mentality, but we fans can always worry about who's ranked higher and what ifs. I've been doing it since Christmas.

And in a very informative, helpful manner, I might add.  +k

[knights2000]

I couldn't listen to the game last night.....

Did the Dew Crew and Calvin students show up for the game?

[realist]

Watching the game last night, even with the runs Olivet was making, I never sensed that Calvin was out of it.  Calvin simply took everything Olivet could throw at them.  When they got the chance they made the shots they had to make, and Olivet by this time was tired.  Part of this I think can be creditied to a tough game vs. Albion on Wed., and short bench.  For some perverse reason this Calvin team almost seems to relish the idea of needing the added incentive of catching up to play the ball they are capable of playing all game long.  

[OC_SID]

Classy move after the final buzzer, Mantel and McClary hugged and gave each other words of encouragement, as they will not see each other on an MIAA court again.

That was a Hallmark Hall of Fame moment. Their mutual respect was much in evidence there. I suppose no one snapped a picture but if anyone did it would be worth seeing. Just what D3 hoops should be about. McClary is simply a stud post player.

I had my camera at the game, but did not have it ready to take a picture. It was a great moment!

[oldknight]

For some perverse reason this Calvin team almost seems to relish the idea of needing the added incentive of catching up   

No pithier summary of Calvinism, and the mindset it often generates, has ever been made on this board.

[maroonandgold]

That comment about Calvin never seeming to be able to play its best until it is behind and really under the gun seems to especially apply to Danny Rodts and Brian Powell.  Rodts seems to be so effective at crunch time going back to the first Hope-Calviin game before league play started and Powell has really made te difference several times while having an overall poor shooting percentage so far.  Even Matt Veltema, while always dangerous seems to fit that mold of shooting better at crunch time.

[HopeConvert]

That comment about Calvin never seeming to be able to play its best until it is behind and really under the gun seems to especially apply to Danny Rodts and Brian Powell.  Rodts seems to be so effective at crunch time going back to the first Hope-Calviin game before league play started and Powell has really made te difference several times while having an overall poor shooting percentage so far.  Even Matt Veltema, while always dangerous seems to fit that mold of shooting better at crunch time.

Of course, there was the last Hope/Calvin game at the DeVos, which doesn't exactly advance your thesis concerning either Rodts or Veltema.

[maroonandgold]

My comment about the end of the game success may be influenced by seeing Calvin home games only.  It certainly was not true at Hope!  I think it was true at a number of the other away games.  Can anyone recall?  If it is true for home games, it might be a factor tonight

[Flying Dutch Fan]

I couldn't listen to the game last night.....

Did the Dew Crew and Calvin students show up for the game?

The Dew Crew was there - a small but vocal force that arrived about 7 minutes into the game - due to the bad roads.  I could sense a difference in the game when it goes from a relatively quiet affair, to the chanting of the Dew Crew.  For me, it was like the game switched from being on a neutral floor to it being like a home game for Hope.

The Calvin students were there with good numbers.  What I remember is that they cheered well when the game was close, and when Calvin made several big baskets.  The best student interaction of the game for me was when Joe Post from Olivet made a nice move to the basket to score, and then shushed the Calvin students on his way back down the floor.  They booed Joe every time he touched the ball for quite awhile .

[realist]

For some perverse reason this Calvin team almost seems to relish the idea of needing the added incentive of catching up   

No pithier summary of Calvinism, and the mindset it often generates, has ever been made on this board.

+ karma my friend.   I know this pattern has sure tested my faith, not to mention my entire "system" belief. 

Quoting FDF:  "What I remember is that they cheered well when the game was close, and when Calvin made several big baskets."  One wouldn't really expect them to hoot, and holler, and applaud when Calvin turns the ball over or does something else non-productive would they?    I recall hearing repeated requests for "defense" during the Olivet runs.   

[goodknight]

For some perverse reason this Calvin team almost seems to relish the idea of needing the added incentive of catching up   

No pithier summary of Calvinism, and the mindset it often generates, has ever been made on this board.

An irresistably graceful notation, OK.

[northb]

I couldn't listen to the game last night.....

Did the Dew Crew and Calvin students show up for the game?

The Dew Crew was there - a small but vocal force that arrived about 7 minutes into the game - due to the bad roads.  I could sense a difference in the game when it goes from a relatively quiet affair, to the chanting of the Dew Crew.  For me, it was like the game switched from being on a neutral floor to it being like a home game for Hope.

The Calvin students were there with good numbers.  What I remember is that they cheered well when the game was close, and when Calvin made several big baskets.  The best student interaction of the game for me was when Joe Post from Olivet made a nice move to the basket to score, and then shushed the Calvin students on his way back down the floor.  They booed Joe every time he touched the ball for quite awhile .

They also had a period during which they maintained the ariball chant, but not as regular and for as long as the game on Wednesday