MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[Knight2Day]

One thing is for sure, if KVS allows for the run-and-gun style offense, the Hope/Calvin series just got that much more interesting because I'm sure these will be quite the high scoring affairs.

[knightrider123]

there is a difference between "running an offense through someone", and someone taking all the shots.  A great example of an offense running through someone was Hope's O going through Reimink 2 years ago. Someone taking all the shots is another beast entirely.  When he is hitting, things are great, when he goes 3-14 their team tends to struggle. 

Calvin now has the athletes to play an uptempo styleI I have noticed quite a change in the athletic ability of several MIAA teams the last 2 or 3 years.  Hope truly underutilized the athletic ability last yearand I think Neil eluded to it during his first pressor.  Fortunately most return for a second "run" at it.

From what I saw in the summer so far, powell has been getting picks and setting his teammates up for scoring opportunities. He has been known to take a good amount of shots but maybe KVS has talked to him about that who knows. This season should be exciting in my opinion

[northb]

It will be interesting to see how the lineups go with the Knights. Supposedly freshmen Vallie, Kruis, and Brink will compete for major time, and there's always Fabiyi from Gary West Side but we'll see how complete of a player he is. All that and they have Green coming from Rockford and will probably have a few other nice recruits along with the JV club that was pretty good last year. I'll be interested to see how KVS does will time management. Wonder who sticks around from the varsity ball club from last year. Apart from the two guys just listed by HD, any other recruits coming in for Hope? Any word on Austin Eilling?

From what I have heard, the upcoming freshman will play a decent amount. Kruis will probly get the majority of the playing time of the freshman. Brink honestly will have a tough time following Salo and Powell since this year is more of an uptempo year and that is powell's strength. Green will get some tick at the wing position but again tough because of snikkers and Brad S, and even Matt Deboar. Lets not forget about John Mantels little brother Jake Mantel who I heard is healthy. Your right... THere are ALOT of talented players. In my opinion its who fits in the style of play this year best. My predictions for starters Salo, Powell, Snikkers, Rhodts, Schuster.

I think that Salo is a pretty big defensive liability and wouldn't mind him coming in as a support role. Powell will probably start at the beginning but Brink has a pretty big size advantage and I think is more of a complete player at the 2 from a rebounding and defensive point of view than Powell and will probably be the man by the end of the year, that's not to say Powell isn't an asset, I just don't see him as your go-to at the 2 spot. I think Schnyders might be hard pressed to find time by the end of the year with the likes of Green, Vallie, and the addition of a talented Jake Mantel coming in and the fact that he has proven to be somewhat out of control at times. Deboer isn't a legit enough outside threat to run the wing and is also a defensive liability playing the 3 from a quickness standpoint, I'd see him as an undersized 4, due to the fact that his post game is his biggest strength and I doubt the Knights will run into much size in the MIAA. Schuster, Rodts, and Snikkers will be legit enough starters, my question will be "where will the scoring come from"? The Knights are losing the 2 guys who could carry the team on a given night. At the PG, I'd like to see Rietema be the #1 guy by the end of the year. Nice outside game, nothing to amazing but solid, good build (can tell he used to be a football player bc he can take getting bumped), pretty athletic, and he handles the ball/distributes well. Once again, Salo's biggest downside is his size. He's a great leader on the floor and possesses great work ethic, but the size is something that shouldn't be overlooked as it hurt the Knights in non conference play last year. My prediction for starters/rotation would be 5-Schuster, 4- Rodts, 3- Snikkers, 2- Brink (with Powell being the man to start the year), 1- Rietema (with Salo starting at the beginning of the year), Kruis the backup 5, Vallie the backup 4, Mantel the backup 3, and the previously mentioned rotation at the 2 and 1 spots.

I think you underestimate experience and maturity.  It is possible some of the incoming guys have what it takes to take a starting position away from an upperclassman, but that remains to be seen.  Sometimes a freshman comes up big (read:Veldhouse hits the three), but you want some experience on the floor, too (read: Chris Webber).  The list you make underestimates the latter.

[Knight2Day]

It will be interesting to see how the lineups go with the Knights. Supposedly freshmen Vallie, Kruis, and Brink will compete for major time, and there's always Fabiyi from Gary West Side but we'll see how complete of a player he is. All that and they have Green coming from Rockford and will probably have a few other nice recruits along with the JV club that was pretty good last year. I'll be interested to see how KVS does will time management. Wonder who sticks around from the varsity ball club from last year. Apart from the two guys just listed by HD, any other recruits coming in for Hope? Any word on Austin Eilling?

From what I have heard, the upcoming freshman will play a decent amount. Kruis will probly get the majority of the playing time of the freshman. Brink honestly will have a tough time following Salo and Powell since this year is more of an uptempo year and that is powell's strength. Green will get some tick at the wing position but again tough because of snikkers and Brad S, and even Matt Deboar. Lets not forget about John Mantels little brother Jake Mantel who I heard is healthy. Your right... THere are ALOT of talented players. In my opinion its who fits in the style of play this year best. My predictions for starters Salo, Powell, Snikkers, Rhodts, Schuster.

I think that Salo is a pretty big defensive liability and wouldn't mind him coming in as a support role. Powell will probably start at the beginning but Brink has a pretty big size advantage and I think is more of a complete player at the 2 from a rebounding and defensive point of view than Powell and will probably be the man by the end of the year, that's not to say Powell isn't an asset, I just don't see him as your go-to at the 2 spot. I think Schnyders might be hard pressed to find time by the end of the year with the likes of Green, Vallie, and the addition of a talented Jake Mantel coming in and the fact that he has proven to be somewhat out of control at times. Deboer isn't a legit enough outside threat to run the wing and is also a defensive liability playing the 3 from a quickness standpoint, I'd see him as an undersized 4, due to the fact that his post game is his biggest strength and I doubt the Knights will run into much size in the MIAA. Schuster, Rodts, and Snikkers will be legit enough starters, my question will be "where will the scoring come from"? The Knights are losing the 2 guys who could carry the team on a given night. At the PG, I'd like to see Rietema be the #1 guy by the end of the year. Nice outside game, nothing to amazing but solid, good build (can tell he used to be a football player bc he can take getting bumped), pretty athletic, and he handles the ball/distributes well. Once again, Salo's biggest downside is his size. He's a great leader on the floor and possesses great work ethic, but the size is something that shouldn't be overlooked as it hurt the Knights in non conference play last year. My prediction for starters/rotation would be 5-Schuster, 4- Rodts, 3- Snikkers, 2- Brink (with Powell being the man to start the year), 1- Rietema (with Salo starting at the beginning of the year), Kruis the backup 5, Vallie the backup 4, Mantel the backup 3, and the previously mentioned rotation at the 2 and 1 spots.

I think you underestimate experience and maturity.  It is possible some of the incoming guys have what it takes to take a starting position away from an upperclassman, but that remains to be seen.  Sometimes a freshman comes up big (read:Veldhouse hits the three), but you want some experience on the floor, too (read: Chris Webber).  The list you make underestimates the latter.

I understand the significance of it, and I definitely do not mean to downplay the importance of Salo's contribution as a leader, but there are times when his size is a liability. He is one of the only players I would say would be someone whose maturity gives them a leg up on an incoming freshmen, if for no other reason than the fact that he is a senior and is a proven hard worker. I don't think sophomores can be put on too much of a maturity pedestal compared to incoming freshman. If greater ability isn't a large determining factor for playing time, then why do major college programs choose to start the prized recruit rather than the old dog who knows all the tricks? But agreeing with you, maturity is a great thing to have, and in the case of the Knights this year, there are probably only a few guys who possess maturity since they are such a young squad

[realist]

With the departure of Mantel, Veltema, and Campbell KVS has to replace nearly 2100 minutes of playing time.  KVS has a pretty set pattern of 9 guys getting the bulk of the playing time, and he also has a very set pattern in the way his teams play.  If he didn't utilize his major strenght inside with Mantel the last few years why would anyone anticipate a change in strategy to run and gun even IF he has the guys to do it.  
Rodts 733 minutes last year should see the same or slightly more pt this next season.  Snikkers 662 should see more pt, and the same is true for Schnyders 356, Schuster 524, and Powell 420.   Salo 692 might see a drop in pt, but not at the start of the season.  While he might be short Salo is smart enough to play exactly the way he is told to play, and if you want pt you should follow his example!
The above 6 guys it would seem are pretty much set to be in the 9 getting the pt.  A key question is are the guys coming up from jv, and the incoming fr. good enough to step right in or do they first compete with Haverdink, De Boer, De Young?  My guess would be the guys that can master the defense fastest, garner some rebounds, learn or adapt to  the "system"  are the ones with the inside track to pt.

[knights2000]

With a smaller team this coming year, there is no doubt KVS is considering going to an offensive system with four perimeter players and one post. I think this is especially tough though with Schuster as he is not exactly a "post" player. Should be interesting to see how things shake out with the posts, DeYoung, Schuster, Kruis, and anyone else that may surprise.

[knightrider123]

With the departure of Mantel, Veltema, and Campbell KVS has to replace nearly 2100 minutes of playing time.  KVS has a pretty set pattern of 9 guys getting the bulk of the playing time, and he also has a very set pattern in the way his teams play.  If he didn't utilize his major strenght inside with Mantel the last few years why would anyone anticipate a change in strategy to run and gun even IF he has the guys to do it.  
Rodts 733 minutes last year should see the same or slightly more pt this next season.  Snikkers 662 should see more pt, and the same is true for Schnyders 356, Schuster 524, and Powell 420.   Salo 692 might see a drop in pt, but not at the start of the season.  While he might be short Salo is smart enough to play exactly the way he is told to play, and if you want pt you should follow his example!
The above 6 guys it would seem are pretty much set to be in the 9 getting the pt.  A key question is are the guys coming up from jv, and the incoming fr. good enough to step right in or do they first compete with Haverdink, De Boer, De Young?  My guess would be the guys that can master the defense fastest, garner some rebounds, learn or adapt to  the "system"  are the ones with the inside track to pt.

Very well said, this is why I would have no choice but to pick Salo POwell SNikkers Rodts and Schuster as the starting 5. Maybe Salo coming out before powell and powell playing a little one gaurd for a minute or two then Salo coming right back in. I see that being the rotation of back court. So many wings..... cant decide the rotation.

[Knight2Day]

It will be interesting to see how the lineups go with the Knights. Supposedly freshmen Vallie, Kruis, and Brink will compete for major time, and there's always Fabiyi from Gary West Side but we'll see how complete of a player he is. All that and they have Green coming from Rockford and will probably have a few other nice recruits along with the JV club that was pretty good last year. I'll be interested to see how KVS does will time management. Wonder who sticks around from the varsity ball club from last year. Apart from the two guys just listed by HD, any other recruits coming in for Hope? Any word on Austin Eilling?

From what I have heard, the upcoming freshman will play a decent amount. Kruis will probly get the majority of the playing time of the freshman. Brink honestly will have a tough time following Salo and Powell since this year is more of an uptempo year and that is powell's strength. Green will get some tick at the wing position but again tough because of snikkers and Brad S, and even Matt Deboar. Lets not forget about John Mantels little brother Jake Mantel who I heard is healthy. Your right... THere are ALOT of talented players. In my opinion its who fits in the style of play this year best. My predictions for starters Salo, Powell, Snikkers, Rhodts, Schuster.

I think that Salo is a pretty big defensive liability and wouldn't mind him coming in as a support role. Powell will probably start at the beginning but Brink has a pretty big size advantage and I think is more of a complete player at the 2 from a rebounding and defensive point of view than Powell and will probably be the man by the end of the year, that's not to say Powell isn't an asset, I just don't see him as your go-to at the 2 spot. I think Schnyders might be hard pressed to find time by the end of the year with the likes of Green, Vallie, and the addition of a talented Jake Mantel coming in and the fact that he has proven to be somewhat out of control at times. Deboer isn't a legit enough outside threat to run the wing and is also a defensive liability playing the 3 from a quickness standpoint, I'd see him as an undersized 4, due to the fact that his post game is his biggest strength and I doubt the Knights will run into much size in the MIAA. Schuster, Rodts, and Snikkers will be legit enough starters, my question will be "where will the scoring come from"? The Knights are losing the 2 guys who could carry the team on a given night. At the PG, I'd like to see Rietema be the #1 guy by the end of the year. Nice outside game, nothing to amazing but solid, good build (can tell he used to be a football player bc he can take getting bumped), pretty athletic, and he handles the ball/distributes well. Once again, Salo's biggest downside is his size. He's a great leader on the floor and possesses great work ethic, but the size is something that shouldn't be overlooked as it hurt the Knights in non conference play last year. My prediction for starters/rotation would be 5-Schuster, 4- Rodts, 3- Snikkers, 2- Brink (with Powell being the man to start the year), 1- Rietema (with Salo starting at the beginning of the year), Kruis the backup 5, Vallie the backup 4, Mantel the backup 3, and the previously mentioned rotation at the 2 and 1 spots.

I agree with you on most points. One point I cant agree on is the fact that you think Powell will be stripped of a starting spot. ThERE is NO way if (from what I hear of a fast pased team this year) that powell will lose that spot. And size difference, Powell is 6 foot 180. Brink is 6' 1" maybe 6 2" possibly 175. Im not seeing much differnce there, so I honestly am not worried about that. Where will the scoring come from? Every person on this team this year has the capability to score double digits. its an uptempo team trust me the points will come. I dont know if you have watched the Knights play this summer but it seems the whole offense runs around Powell. He seems to control what goes on offensivly. Another thing, KVS will start Trent. He is the captain. he was the captain last year and a bunch of people didnt think he shouldve started the whole year. KVS wont change that.

I have to disagree on the Size of Brink. 6'1 maybe 6'2? I'd put him at 6'3 with room to reach 6'4 and if Powell is 180 then Brink is 210. Powell is a scrappy player but 180lbs he is not especially if you think Brink is 175. And on to the point about Salo. I agree he will start at the beginning of the season and for good reason, but if you remember, Tim Katt was also a senior Captain who lost his starting spot. And in regards to Salo and Powell taking 1-2 minute breaks, you must be under some illusion to think that players only need that short of a break. Even John Mantel who was probably one of the least replaceable people on the roster last season took longer breaks than that, not to mention that Calvin has a PLETHORA of guards this year. Regardless, it will be an interesting mix and the fact that we argue about starting spots isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's about time the Knights had so much talent you had to argue who would start. Either way, no one truly knows in July what the team will be like in October/November.

[knightrider123]

It will be interesting to see how the lineups go with the Knights. Supposedly freshmen Vallie, Kruis, and Brink will compete for major time, and there's always Fabiyi from Gary West Side but we'll see how complete of a player he is. All that and they have Green coming from Rockford and will probably have a few other nice recruits along with the JV club that was pretty good last year. I'll be interested to see how KVS does will time management. Wonder who sticks around from the varsity ball club from last year. Apart from the two guys just listed by HD, any other recruits coming in for Hope? Any word on Austin Eilling?

From what I have heard, the upcoming freshman will play a decent amount. Kruis will probly get the majority of the playing time of the freshman. Brink honestly will have a tough time following Salo and Powell since this year is more of an uptempo year and that is powell's strength. Green will get some tick at the wing position but again tough because of snikkers and Brad S, and even Matt Deboar. Lets not forget about John Mantels little brother Jake Mantel who I heard is healthy. Your right... THere are ALOT of talented players. In my opinion its who fits in the style of play this year best. My predictions for starters Salo, Powell, Snikkers, Rhodts, Schuster.

I think that Salo is a pretty big defensive liability and wouldn't mind him coming in as a support role. Powell will probably start at the beginning but Brink has a pretty big size advantage and I think is more of a complete player at the 2 from a rebounding and defensive point of view than Powell and will probably be the man by the end of the year, that's not to say Powell isn't an asset, I just don't see him as your go-to at the 2 spot. I think Schnyders might be hard pressed to find time by the end of the year with the likes of Green, Vallie, and the addition of a talented Jake Mantel coming in and the fact that he has proven to be somewhat out of control at times. Deboer isn't a legit enough outside threat to run the wing and is also a defensive liability playing the 3 from a quickness standpoint, I'd see him as an undersized 4, due to the fact that his post game is his biggest strength and I doubt the Knights will run into much size in the MIAA. Schuster, Rodts, and Snikkers will be legit enough starters, my question will be "where will the scoring come from"? The Knights are losing the 2 guys who could carry the team on a given night. At the PG, I'd like to see Rietema be the #1 guy by the end of the year. Nice outside game, nothing to amazing but solid, good build (can tell he used to be a football player bc he can take getting bumped), pretty athletic, and he handles the ball/distributes well. Once again, Salo's biggest downside is his size. He's a great leader on the floor and possesses great work ethic, but the size is something that shouldn't be overlooked as it hurt the Knights in non conference play last year. My prediction for starters/rotation would be 5-Schuster, 4- Rodts, 3- Snikkers, 2- Brink (with Powell being the man to start the year), 1- Rietema (with Salo starting at the beginning of the year), Kruis the backup 5, Vallie the backup 4, Mantel the backup 3, and the previously mentioned rotation at the 2 and 1 spots.

I agree with you on most points. One point I cant agree on is the fact that you think Powell will be stripped of a starting spot. ThERE is NO way if (from what I hear of a fast pased team this year) that powell will lose that spot. And size difference, Powell is 6 foot 180. Brink is 6' 1" maybe 6 2" possibly 175. Im not seeing much differnce there, so I honestly am not worried about that. Where will the scoring come from? Every person on this team this year has the capability to score double digits. its an uptempo team trust me the points will come. I dont know if you have watched the Knights play this summer but it seems the whole offense runs around Powell. He seems to control what goes on offensivly. Another thing, KVS will start Trent. He is the captain. he was the captain last year and a bunch of people didnt think he shouldve started the whole year. KVS wont change that.

I have to disagree on the Size of Brink. 6'1 maybe 6'2? I'd put him at 6'3 with room to reach 6'4 and if Powell is 180 then Brink is 210. Powell is a scrappy player but 180lbs he is not especially if you think Brink is 175. And on to the point about Salo. I agree he will start at the beginning of the season and for good reason, but if you remember, Tim Katt was also a senior Captain who lost his starting spot. And in regards to Salo and Powell taking 1-2 minute breaks, you must be under some illusion to think that players only need that short of a break. Even John Mantel who was probably one of the least replaceable people on the roster last season took longer breaks than that, not to mention that Calvin has a PLETHORA of guards this year. Regardless, it will be an interesting mix and the fact that we argue about starting spots isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's about time the Knights had so much talent you had to argue who would start. Either way, no one truly knows in July what the team will be like in October/November.

Looks like somebody has a personal Vendetta against a certain Bryan Powell. He was listed as a freshman 180 and assuming he is gaining pounds this summer because he will be playing the 2 gaurd next year. As for the rotation, I did NOT say they will only get  to 2 minute breaks. Brink will come in for salo I assume as powell plays point. Salo will come in for powell after about two minutes maybe 3 then powell will get a rest.And JOHN mantel NEEDED breaks thats the reason he sat out. Wether you like it or not. Salo and Powell WILL be the back court next season. Lets keep in mind Powell has never played the 1 I was told, supposibly that was his first season EVer playing that position. If that was a first time, i would LOVE to see him play the 2 at a position he has played all his life. I am not bias nor do I dislike or like any other players more than others, I just state the facts, and the FACT is that your fantasy Freshman scuad will not happen. Salo Powell Snikkers Rodts Schuster. More experience MORE talent MORE WINS

[knightrider123]

And as for Brinks size, lets not exagerate. I have seen this kid. 6'4" 210. Your not fooling anybody. I have seen the size of this kid. Spitting image of Powell maybe an inch taller. You describe him as the excat same size as snikkers! WOW so im guessing you think Snikkers is 6' 8" 300 huh? Nevertheless this conversation is going nowhere we both are intitled to opinion and thats what we have.

[northb]

And as for Brinks size, lets not exagerate. I have seen this kid. 6'4" 210. Your not fooling anybody. I have seen the size of this kid. Spitting image of Powell maybe an inch taller. You describe him as the excat same size as snikkers! WOW so im guessing you think Snikkers is 6' 8" 300 huh? Nevertheless this conversation is going nowhere we both are intitled to opinion and thats what we have.

kr123, Mellow out, man. be m..e..l..l..o..w......

[CalKnight60]

And as for Brinks size, lets not exagerate. I have seen this kid. 6'4" 210. Your not fooling anybody. I have seen the size of this kid. Spitting image of Powell maybe an inch taller. You describe him as the excat same size as snikkers! WOW so im guessing you think Snikkers is 6' 8" 300 huh? Nevertheless this conversation is going nowhere we both are intitled to opinion and thats what we have.

kr123, Mellow out, man. be m..e..l..l..o..w......

I agree with Northb....seriously man you have done nothing but advocate Powell since you got here.   I know you to are probably best friends or maybe you actually are Powell, but let's settledown a bit 

[Knight2Day]

It will be interesting to see how the lineups go with the Knights. Supposedly freshmen Vallie, Kruis, and Brink will compete for major time, and there's always Fabiyi from Gary West Side but we'll see how complete of a player he is. All that and they have Green coming from Rockford and will probably have a few other nice recruits along with the JV club that was pretty good last year. I'll be interested to see how KVS does will time management. Wonder who sticks around from the varsity ball club from last year. Apart from the two guys just listed by HD, any other recruits coming in for Hope? Any word on Austin Eilling?

From what I have heard, the upcoming freshman will play a decent amount. Kruis will probly get the majority of the playing time of the freshman. Brink honestly will have a tough time following Salo and Powell since this year is more of an uptempo year and that is powell's strength. Green will get some tick at the wing position but again tough because of snikkers and Brad S, and even Matt Deboar. Lets not forget about John Mantels little brother Jake Mantel who I heard is healthy. Your right... THere are ALOT of talented players. In my opinion its who fits in the style of play this year best. My predictions for starters Salo, Powell, Snikkers, Rhodts, Schuster.

I think that Salo is a pretty big defensive liability and wouldn't mind him coming in as a support role. Powell will probably start at the beginning but Brink has a pretty big size advantage and I think is more of a complete player at the 2 from a rebounding and defensive point of view than Powell and will probably be the man by the end of the year, that's not to say Powell isn't an asset, I just don't see him as your go-to at the 2 spot. I think Schnyders might be hard pressed to find time by the end of the year with the likes of Green, Vallie, and the addition of a talented Jake Mantel coming in and the fact that he has proven to be somewhat out of control at times. Deboer isn't a legit enough outside threat to run the wing and is also a defensive liability playing the 3 from a quickness standpoint, I'd see him as an undersized 4, due to the fact that his post game is his biggest strength and I doubt the Knights will run into much size in the MIAA. Schuster, Rodts, and Snikkers will be legit enough starters, my question will be "where will the scoring come from"? The Knights are losing the 2 guys who could carry the team on a given night. At the PG, I'd like to see Rietema be the #1 guy by the end of the year. Nice outside game, nothing to amazing but solid, good build (can tell he used to be a football player bc he can take getting bumped), pretty athletic, and he handles the ball/distributes well. Once again, Salo's biggest downside is his size. He's a great leader on the floor and possesses great work ethic, but the size is something that shouldn't be overlooked as it hurt the Knights in non conference play last year. My prediction for starters/rotation would be 5-Schuster, 4- Rodts, 3- Snikkers, 2- Brink (with Powell being the man to start the year), 1- Rietema (with Salo starting at the beginning of the year), Kruis the backup 5, Vallie the backup 4, Mantel the backup 3, and the previously mentioned rotation at the 2 and 1 spots.

I agree with you on most points. One point I cant agree on is the fact that you think Powell will be stripped of a starting spot. ThERE is NO way if (from what I hear of a fast pased team this year) that powell will lose that spot. And size difference, Powell is 6 foot 180. Brink is 6' 1" maybe 6 2" possibly 175. Im not seeing much differnce there, so I honestly am not worried about that. Where will the scoring come from? Every person on this team this year has the capability to score double digits. its an uptempo team trust me the points will come. I dont know if you have watched the Knights play this summer but it seems the whole offense runs around Powell. He seems to control what goes on offensivly. Another thing, KVS will start Trent. He is the captain. he was the captain last year and a bunch of people didnt think he shouldve started the whole year. KVS wont change that.

I have to disagree on the Size of Brink. 6'1 maybe 6'2? I'd put him at 6'3 with room to reach 6'4 and if Powell is 180 then Brink is 210. Powell is a scrappy player but 180lbs he is not especially if you think Brink is 175. And on to the point about Salo. I agree he will start at the beginning of the season and for good reason, but if you remember, Tim Katt was also a senior Captain who lost his starting spot. And in regards to Salo and Powell taking 1-2 minute breaks, you must be under some illusion to think that players only need that short of a break. Even John Mantel who was probably one of the least replaceable people on the roster last season took longer breaks than that, not to mention that Calvin has a PLETHORA of guards this year. Regardless, it will be an interesting mix and the fact that we argue about starting spots isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's about time the Knights had so much talent you had to argue who would start. Either way, no one truly knows in July what the team will be like in October/November.

Looks like somebody has a personal Vendetta against a certain Bryan Powell. He was listed as a freshman 180 and assuming he is gaining pounds this summer because he will be playing the 2 gaurd next year. As for the rotation, I did NOT say they will only get  to 2 minute breaks. Brink will come in for salo I assume as powell plays point. Salo will come in for powell after about two minutes maybe 3 then powell will get a rest.And JOHN mantel NEEDED breaks thats the reason he sat out. Wether you like it or not. Salo and Powell WILL be the back court next season. Lets keep in mind Powell has never played the 1 I was told, supposibly that was his first season EVer playing that position. If that was a first time, i would LOVE to see him play the 2 at a position he has played all his life. I am not bias nor do I dislike or like any other players more than others, I just state the facts, and the FACT is that your fantasy Freshman scuad will not happen. Salo Powell Snikkers Rodts Schuster. More experience MORE talent MORE WINS

Wow, you're getting pretty into this topic. Just as a point of clarification, I do not have a vendetta against Powell. If anything, I think he's a valuable asset, I just tend to look at the glass as half empty rather than half full on players. If you'd like, I can pick apart Brink's game for you so that I won't seem to have a grudge against anyone particularly. If anything, I want to see the best player on the floor to help the Knights win, and if that happens to be Powell, I'm more than happy about it because he's a good player and a good kid. And one last thing, one of the first rules of debating, if you're going to quote someone to try and have a rebuttal against them, quote them directly, don't misquote. 

[knightrider123]

My mistake, Like I said we are entitled to our opinions they both are good players. I guess we will have to see when the season starts.

[hoopdreams]

Who is this Brink kid?  What class was is hs team? Who did his team play?  Any success in the state tourney? Have we seen him play against college kids beyond pickup ball?- offensive sets, defensive rotations, etc...  Ryan Ross come to mind?  30+ points per game in high school?  I associate with some AQ alum, and they were SO HIGH on Pete VanOosten a couple years back.  20+ points per game, super athletic, coaches kid, etc.... what happens? comes to school, redshirts a year than disappears.  Let's see someone make the varsity team first, get used to the huge changes between hs ball and college, learn the philosophies on both sides of the ball, before we start comparing.  Right now it's comparing apples and oranges.

FWIW, I saw Powell yesterday, and 180 is probably a stretch.  I've got an inch on him and he looks a bit lighter than listed.  Yes, I know muscle weighs more than fat, and I may be carrying a bit "extra" at the moment, but Bryan is no body builder.

I do appreciate the willingness to share your opinions, regardless if "it's different" than the norm. Stick to your guns, even if the powers that be disagree.  It will really get fun when you upset an oldtimer of the board!!!