MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[BogeyMan]

I wonder how many of those that picked Albion in tonight's game would have picked Olivet knowing Albion has not practiced Thurs., Fri. And Sat.?

[KnightSlappy]

Does Calvin have difficulty scoring points?  [1]

Does Calvin have difficulty rebounding on the offensive end?  [2]

Is Brent Schuster ineffective as an outside shooter?   [3]

1.  Considering Calvin's record is now 10-9 we know at least 9 games in which they scored an inadequate amount to win.

2.  Rebounding has been one of Calvin's strenghts.  Some Calvin players are better at it than others, and I would rather see a 6' 10" guy in the paint than a 5' 9" one.

3.  Brent does have a very good 3 point shot, but again his percentage would be much better if he were closer to the basket, like in the paint, and was putting in rebounds.    Just becasue he is reasonably good outside does not mean that is the best or optimal place for him to play. 

#1. I'll take the smiley-winkey to mean that you're slightly sarcastic with your response and that a 75.4 ppg average doesn't scream "we need to find more ways to score." They could score more, but perhaps there are also problems on the defensive end.

#2. So, since they're already stong on the offensive glass, moving him closer to the basket does not appear to be immediately beneficial.

#3.  Right, but you get 50% more point for making a three, so strict percentage doesn't mean much. Brent is 40-82 (0.488) in his two point attempts and 28-65 (.431) in three point attempts which is equivalent (in terms of points scored) to shooting .646 from two point range. His current mix yeilds an eFG% of .558, which I feel is pretty good.

#2.  Nice try, but a quick check of the 2010-2011 stats shows me Calvin has 237 offensive rebounds, and Calvin's opponents have 407 defensive rebounds.   I never said Calvin was strong on the offensive glass.  Please refrain from putting words in my mouth.  I said " rebounding has been one of Calvin's strenghts."   This is reflected in Calvin out rebounding opponents 746- 629.

#3.  If Brent stayed in the paint his number of offensive rebounds would be better than it is out on the arc, and his rebounds and put backs should improve his 2 pt. percentage. 

#2. Sorry, I just took it for granted that you would realize that getting 36.8% of the rebounds on offense was indeed quite strong.

#3. Gotcha. So Calvin should put him on the block in the hopes that he turns out to be better down there than McClary (.530) or Prepolec (.561)?

Not necessarily. But basketball is all about exploiting matchups. At that point of the game, with the defense Hope had on the floor, I was surprised Calvin didn't try to get Schuster the ball on the blocks. You're aggregating data, and that's fine, and Schuster is an effective outside shooter, but that might not be the best strategy at a given time. And then there's the issue how it fits best into a team concept. When Prepolec gets the ball low, he opens the floor for the rest of his team.

A 6-10 player with deep range is a matchup that can be exploited, too. I'm sure West Virginia fans had the same "complaints" about Kevin Pittsnogle and the way he was used because the common opinion is that tall guys should play down low. Let's not forget that a skilled shooter that can release the ball that high is a big time mismatch.

Yep. You're right. But WV figured out a way to make sure Pittsnogle touched the ball.

Pittsnogle shot the ball took 28.8% of the shots when he was on the floor his senior year. Schuster is at 21.5%.

The difference is significant, but then again, Schuster is no Pittsnogle. But still, Schuster is shooting the ball more than his "fair share", so I'm not sure it's fair to imply the Knights aren't getting him the ball.

[almcguirejr]

Schuster playing with his back to the basket is somewhat Voisonesque in my opinion. He can face up and shoot over a smaller guy with better results.  I realize there are some others who think they can see things better on the radio

[sac]

Schuster playing with his back to the basket is somewhat Voisonesque in my opinion. He can face up and shoot over a smaller guy with better results in my opinion.  I realize there are some others who can see things better on the radio

+k for working Voisonesque into the conversation

[sac]

I'm kind of confused about the complaints about Schuster not posting up late Saturday.  For one thing if I'm not mistaken Calvin got the ball in Tom Snikkers hands and looked to clear things out for him each time.  I don't see how this is a negative.  In fact this seems to be exactly what Calvin should do in late game situations.

If Schuster posts up and turns the ball over like Tom did, would the griping be about why Snikkers didn't get the ball in the last 2 minutes?


This doesn't even take into consideration that after 3 years and maybe a dozen and half times seeing Calvin play, I can't even remember a time when Schuster played with his back to the basket.  He's just not that kind of player.

Seems to me asking a player who doesn't normally post up to suddenly post up with the game in doubt late, even if the defensive matchup is in your favor (and truthfully Logan Neil knows what he's doing in that department, I'm not sure that matchup favors Calvin) is the wrong thing to do.

[HopeConvert]

Does Calvin have difficulty scoring points?  [1]

Does Calvin have difficulty rebounding on the offensive end?  [2]

Is Brent Schuster ineffective as an outside shooter?   [3]

1.  Considering Calvin's record is now 10-9 we know at least 9 games in which they scored an inadequate amount to win.

2.  Rebounding has been one of Calvin's strenghts.  Some Calvin players are better at it than others, and I would rather see a 6' 10" guy in the paint than a 5' 9" one.

3.  Brent does have a very good 3 point shot, but again his percentage would be much better if he were closer to the basket, like in the paint, and was putting in rebounds.    Just becasue he is reasonably good outside does not mean that is the best or optimal place for him to play. 

#1. I'll take the smiley-winkey to mean that you're slightly sarcastic with your response and that a 75.4 ppg average doesn't scream "we need to find more ways to score." They could score more, but perhaps there are also problems on the defensive end.

#2. So, since they're already stong on the offensive glass, moving him closer to the basket does not appear to be immediately beneficial.

#3.  Right, but you get 50% more point for making a three, so strict percentage doesn't mean much. Brent is 40-82 (0.488) in his two point attempts and 28-65 (.431) in three point attempts which is equivalent (in terms of points scored) to shooting .646 from two point range. His current mix yeilds an eFG% of .558, which I feel is pretty good.

#2.  Nice try, but a quick check of the 2010-2011 stats shows me Calvin has 237 offensive rebounds, and Calvin's opponents have 407 defensive rebounds.   I never said Calvin was strong on the offensive glass.  Please refrain from putting words in my mouth.  I said " rebounding has been one of Calvin's strenghts."   This is reflected in Calvin out rebounding opponents 746- 629.

#3.  If Brent stayed in the paint his number of offensive rebounds would be better than it is out on the arc, and his rebounds and put backs should improve his 2 pt. percentage. 

#2. Sorry, I just took it for granted that you would realize that getting 36.8% of the rebounds on offense was indeed quite strong.

#3. Gotcha. So Calvin should put him on the block in the hopes that he turns out to be better down there than McClary (.530) or Prepolec (.561)?

Not necessarily. But basketball is all about exploiting matchups. At that point of the game, with the defense Hope had on the floor, I was surprised Calvin didn't try to get Schuster the ball on the blocks. You're aggregating data, and that's fine, and Schuster is an effective outside shooter, but that might not be the best strategy at a given time. And then there's the issue how it fits best into a team concept. When Prepolec gets the ball low, he opens the floor for the rest of his team.

A 6-10 player with deep range is a matchup that can be exploited, too. I'm sure West Virginia fans had the same "complaints" about Kevin Pittsnogle and the way he was used because the common opinion is that tall guys should play down low. Let's not forget that a skilled shooter that can release the ball that high is a big time mismatch.

Yep. You're right. But WV figured out a way to make sure Pittsnogle touched the ball.

Pittsnogle shot the ball took 28.8% of the shots when he was on the floor his senior year. Schuster is at 21.5%.

The difference is significant, but then again, Schuster is no Pittsnogle. But still, Schuster is shooting the ball more than his "fair share", so I'm not sure it's fair to imply the Knights aren't getting him the ball.

Again: at that point of the game, against that defense.

[BogeyMan]

Halftime
Albion 25
Olivet 24
McClary - 6 pts, 3 turnovers

[Mr. Ypsi]

I'm kind of confused about the complaints about Schuster not posting up late Saturday.  For one thing if I'm not mistaken Calvin got the ball in Tom Snikkers hands and looked to clear things out for him each time.  I don't see how this is a negative.  In fact this seems to be exactly what Calvin should do in late game situations.

If Schuster posts up and turns the ball over like Tom did, would the griping be about why Snikkers didn't get the ball in the last 2 minutes?


This doesn't even take into consideration that after 3 years and maybe a dozen and half times seeing Calvin play, I can't even remember a time when Schuster played with his back to the basket.  He's just not that kind of player.

Seems to me asking a player who doesn't normally post up to suddenly post up with the game in doubt late, even if the defensive matchup is in your favor (and truthfully Logan Neil knows what he's doing in that department, I'm not sure that matchup favors Calvin) is the wrong thing to do.

Simple what the problem is: Carrie's better.

[wiz]

If Schuster posts up and turns the ball over like Tom did, would the griping be about why Snikkers didn't get the ball in the last 2 minutes?

You got that right!

[wiz]

Schuster playing with his back to the basket is somewhat Voisonesque in my opinion. He can face up and shoot over a smaller guy with better results.  I realize there are some others who think they can see things better on the radio

++K  for the radio comment.  One now and another 24 hours from now.

[hope1]

it schould be a good girls game sat calvin  at hope  for 1st  place  if hope wins

[HopeConvert]

Schuster playing with his back to the basket is somewhat Voisonesque in my opinion. He can face up and shoot over a smaller guy with better results.  I realize there are some others who think they can see things better on the radio

Voison had a body much more built to banging on the inside than Schuster does.

[sac]

Olivet 65 Albion 64

Exciting finish and Olivet wins it on a tip-in at the buzzer.

I'm really not very good about picking what games to miss this year.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Great game for sure!!  Anyone else hear the Albion video commentators describing the plays being drawn-up in the Olivet huddle? 

[sflzman]

Was Bobby Lee calling the game for the Brits?