MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

Started by sac, February 19, 2005, 11:51:56 AM

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calalum

I can't believe what a slow start by all four teams in the first half of both games.  Looking forward to the Hope Calvin matchup tomorrow night.

ziggy

And the year of parity comes to a close with Calvin and Hope in the MIAA tournament final after each posted double digit semi-final victories...

almcguirejr

#29132
I think Brad Schnyders probably played his best game tonight.  He was Calvin's only consistent offense the first half and he put Calvin ahead.  Calvin's defense the whole game was very good.  It was outstanding the first 15 minutes of the game.
Calvin did a great job on Cruse again tonight.  

Adrian competed hard for the first 12 minutes of the game but then just got overwhelmed.  Adrian was up 11-4 at the 8 minute mark and then Hope went on a 45-14 over the next 18 minutes of playing time.  Snuggerud and Dickerson were very effective tonight.  Adrian played very good perimeter defense but inside they broke down too many times.  I'm sure Adrian was hurt by the loss of Dennis Mason who sprained an ankle and was lost after playing only 4 minutes.  They were also hurt by several missed layups.  Give Hope's defense some credit for limiting Adrian shooting to 4-23 the first half.    

AndersDY

9-20 FT shooting also doomed Adrian pretty well too. At a couple points as Adrian came close to making the game interesting late, I was thinking about how another 5 or 6 made FTs earlier on would have helped them actually be in the game at that point. A few of the misses were on front-ends so they left some attempts out there as well.

Interestingly, the halftime score was 21-15 and the second half exactly doubled that up with Hope winning it 42-30.

Hopefully Hope will be focused to start both halves tomorrow and won't start each half with multiple turnovers right off the bat. Keeping Calvin's rebounding advantage down will of course decide the game as well.
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Civic Minded

Quote from: Adrian Hoops Fan on February 25, 2011, 05:39:03 PM
Quote from: Civic Minded on February 25, 2011, 03:19:46 PM
Quote from: goknights68 on February 25, 2011, 03:14:09 PM
Could Adrian repeat what they did to Hope in 2004? 

We shall see...

Not w/o help again from W. Whitfield....  (shudder).  Wait, someone check the reffing schedule! :P


I don't think anyone can say anything when the crew of Cryer, Creek & __________ benefited your cause many times.  (Hope 42 Ft's at Adrian to Adrian's 2 Ft's and many more times like this to many opponents).  Hell Cryer was on the Hope website and honored at a Hope game after the DeVos was opened. 

I resent any discrediting of the 04 Bulldogs win over Hope.  Adrian led most all of the game and  had a huge game from Billy Collins, Brian Schafer, Jeff Nokovich, and Mike Lewis.  To say it was Whitfield that lost Hope the game and not Adrian winning it is a joke.  This is exactly why it was so much fun to be a Bulldog that night.

Hey, many apologies.  I did not mean to discredit Adrian (although in retrospect I realize it reads that way).  Jeff Nokovich was a great player, and someone I got to know and really like. 

I'm wondering, were you at the game?  What I was refering to was something I have never, ever seen before, and luckily haven't seen since.  Whitfield must have been having a rough night, and the Hope fans were (mostly respectfully) stating their displeasure.  On 3 separate occasions, he looked pointedly right up in the stands at the Hope fans, and then made what seemed at the time like a blatant call against Hope.  It seemed like he was trying to make a point, and I felt that his performance greatly affected this particular game.  I was sitting about 10 feet away from him  on 2 of the calls, and it was obvious that he was trying to send a message, over normal fan behavior.  Weird, to say the least.  Even now I'm not sure I'm adequately describing what I saw.

At any rate, and as in most cases, Hope did not do on that night what they needed to do, and Adrian did.  Again, I was more reliving a very frustrating memory of  a very strange event, rather than meaning to discredit Adrain.
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sac

bullets

----- call it physical fatigue, mental fatigue whatever you want but I didn't think either Albion or Adrian had the same kind of 'jump' in their step I saw from them earlier this year.  Both Hope and Calvin played excellent defense for long stretches of their games, and it simply wore the other team out.


-----  Its a lot easier to endure a 21-15 half and your team having just 4 points 12 minutes into a game when you just saw one of these teams do nearly the same thing to another only 2 nights ago.  That first half of Hope/Adrian was nearly identical to the Olivet/Adrian game with a difference of only a couple more shots.


-----  I've seen Adrian 4 times and I believe Dennis Mason might just be Adrian's best defender, when he went out Adrian's defense just wasn't the same and it was only a matter of time before Hope took control, and did they ever.


-----  Hope's defense was excellent tonight, for the first 32 minutes of this game Adrian was just 8-40 from the floor for 20%.  Adrian finished the game 8-12 after Mark White began subbing and Hope had built a 24 point lead with 8 minutes left.

-----  These pairings were exactly the same as the last time the MIAA Semi's came to Holland in 2008 and results were darn near close to identical.

http://www.miaa.org/mbb/stats/0708/0229caal.htm  Calvin won by 17
http://www.miaa.org/mbb/stats/0708/0229adrm.htm  Hope won by 19

Three years later, same two teams win by 15 and 18.


-----  After only meeting twice in the Championship game in the first 14 years of the MIAA tournament, Hope and Calvin will meet Saturday night for the sixth straight year, eighth overall.

sac

#29136
Prior to tonight the largest deficit Adrian had faced this year was being down 16 in their first game of the year, and 18 for a brief moment as time ticked off the clock vs Defiance.

The 18 points tonight was their largest defeat of the season.

In MIAA play, I believe Adrian's largest deficit faced was 14 at Hope the first time and only for a few moments.


This is a team that rarely saw double digit deficits, and all but 3 times this year rallied to make those games close.  They just didn't have 'it' tonight, or maybe Hope took 'it' from them.


HopeConvert

One thing is clear: Hope can't afford a start like last night or the last two times they've played Calvin. I'm also wondering if Bowser is 100%. He came up a little gimpy last night and Neil pulled him early.

Long lineup at the DeVos for tickets but the crew there did a nice job keeping the line moving. Should be another great environment, and I thought the Dew Crew was great last night.

One Mississippi, Two Mississippi...

wiz


almcguirejr

Alex, We'd like to make it a true daily double. ;D

maroonandgold

I did see that correctly, didn't I? 

Final score

Calvin's women's team 67

Hope women's team  65.

Since the lady Knights had beaten Hope once before, it had to be possibility, but that is a big surprise!

northb

Quote from: maroonandgold on February 26, 2011, 05:02:44 PM
I did see that correctly, didn't I? 

Final score

Calvin's women's team 67

Hope women's team  65.

Since the lady Knights had beaten Hope once before, it had to be possibility, but that is a big surprise!

m&g, you missed all the excitement.  Calvin up by 21 early in the first half, only to lose the lead, then get the ball back with less than 10 seconds, to drive the length of the court and win on a 3-pointer at the buzzer!
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maroonandgold

Quote from: northb on February 26, 2011, 05:24:45 PM
Quote from: maroonandgold on February 26, 2011, 05:02:44 PM
I did see that correctly, didn't I? 

Final score

Calvin's women's team 67

Hope women's team  65.

Since the lady Knights had beaten Hope once before, it had to be possibility, but that is a big surprise!

m&g, you missed all the excitement.  Calvin up by 21 early in the first half, only to lose the lead, then get the ball back with less than 10 seconds, to drive the length of the court and win on a 3-pointer at the buzzer!

Incredible!  My brother and I had talked about going and then decided we had too much else to do.  Bad decision!

almcguirejr

Quote from: northb on February 26, 2011, 05:24:45 PM
Quote from: maroonandgold on February 26, 2011, 05:02:44 PM
I did see that correctly, didn't I? 

Final score

Calvin's women's team 67

Hope women's team  65.

Since the lady Knights had beaten Hope once before, it had to be possibility, but that is a big surprise!

m&g, you missed all the excitement.  Calvin up by 21 early in the first half, only to lose the lead, then get the ball back with less than 10 seconds, to drive the length of the court and win on a 3-pointer at the buzzer!

The livestream was great.  I had given Calvin up for dead.

maroonandgold

Quote from: northb on February 26, 2011, 05:24:45 PM
Quote from: maroonandgold on February 26, 2011, 05:02:44 PM
I did see that correctly, didn't I? 

Final score

Calvin's women's team 67

Hope women's team  65.

Since the lady Knights had beaten Hope once before, it had to be possibility, but that is a big surprise!

m&g, you missed all the excitement.  Calvin up by 21 early in the first half, only to lose the lead, then get the ball back with less than 10 seconds, to drive the length of the court and win on a 3-pointer at the buzzer!

I forgot to ask.  Who made the 3 point shot at the end?