MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

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John Rusnak

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Hello all...I passed out when I got home last night, but it looks like most of my thoughts have been covered somewhere in the last few pages...

I would disagree and say that I thought Immink was the most valuable/important player on the floor last night.  When he was on the floor he really controlled the tempo offensively for Hope, which really made the difference for them offensively.  Additionally, his penetration and ability to move the ball created a lot of opportunities.

I do agree that Voisin played huge last night, one of my keys for Hope's success in that game as well as throughout the big dance coming up.  No doubt Hope will run into teams with some serious big men and Voisin's play is going to have a strong impact on their ability to move forward.

There's no question Calvin shot terribly and I agree with the comments that Hope's defense was smothering.  I will admit that Calvin had quite a few shots that should've falled and definitely some taps and short putbacks that didn't go in.  But, a lot of those shots were the result of Hope forcing Calvin to take bad/quick shots.

I thought Trewhella looked like a freshman at times out there, taking ill-advised shots that were out of the floor or just too quick.  In fairness, he hit a couple of big ones that gave them a glimmer of hope...er, chance to win.

What happened to the Calvin crowd?  I know people said that up 20 of course Hope's fans were louder, but the reality is that they were louder from the opening tip.  I couldn't believe how the Dew Crew overshadowed the entire building.

Like I said last night, Calvin's lack of depth really hurt them in this game, as I'm sure they ran out of steam after playing back to back nights.   Unfortunately they probably now have to prepare to play on Thurs, but we'll see how the matchups look.

I think the MIAA gets in 3 teams, although I have no idea how or where everybody will go.  I wish all 2 or 3 teams good luck in getting a reasonable and fair seeding.

sac

Quote from: arena on February 26, 2006, 07:52:58 AM
Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on February 26, 2006, 07:37:37 AM
Quote from: arena on February 26, 2006, 07:12:42 AM
Yeah, but y'all missed out on your first goal.   ;)

True - but your net in our trophy case makes up for it

Well, I suppose since we have yours from a couple years ago, its 5x5.

......except you have none when playing Hope for the title.  ;) ;D

albionbritfan

Quote from: John Rusnak on February 26, 2006, 10:41:32 AM
I think the MIAA gets in 3 teams, although I have no idea how or where everybody will go.  I wish all 2 or 3 teams good luck in getting a reasonable and fair seeding.

I'd give you Karma, JR, if I could, for your belief that Albion should get a shot in the tourney.  I am really leaning toward Albion not getting in now from a neutral position yesterday.  I think they are left in the pole position of GL region teams not getting in.

sac

Dren made this post in the Pool C board last night.

1-10
Amherst     12.083     23-1 plays Tufts Sunday for pool A
Lawrence     11.682    22-0 pool A MWC champ
Tufts    11.167    20-4 plays Amherst Sunday for pool A
Worcester Polytech    11.130    20-3 plays MIT Sunday for auto
St. John Fisher    11.000    22-1 pool A Empire 8 Conference Champ
Mississippi College    11.000    24-1 plays Howard Payne sunday for pool A
Lincoln    10.688    12-4 pool B lock
Wittenberg    10.652    20-3 Pool A auto won NCAC championship
Gordon    10.560    22-3 
completed play 2/23 in semis loss
Trinity (Texas)    10.526    16-3
completed play 2/24 in semis loss

               
11-20
Virginia Wesleyan    10.481    24-3 Pool A ODAC champ
Augustana    10.478    19-4 
completed play 2/24 lost in semis
Carnegie Mellon    10.474    15-4 UAA conf champ
Transylvania    10.444    23-4  pool A auto HCAC champ
Cortland State    10.440    22-3
completed play 2/24 lost in Semis
York (Pa.)    10.400    22-3
lost in CAC semis
UW-Whitewater    10.304    18-5 Pool A auto WIAC Champ
William Paterson    10.240    19-6 pool A auto NJAC champ
Hope    10.211    17-2 pool A auto MIAA champ
North Central    10.095    16-5 pool A auto CCIW champ
               
21-30
Bates    10.091    16-6
lost in semi finals 2/25
Carroll    10.087    19-4
lost in MWC final
Baldwin-Wallace    10.077    22-4 OAC champ
Washington U.    10.050    14-6
lost in last game on Saturday
Wooster     10.042    21-3
lost in NCAC final
Carleton    10.000    18-5
lost in MIAC final
St. Thomas     9.960    20-5 Pool A auto MIAC
Alvernia     9.958    21-3 Pool A PAC auto
Baruch    9.958    21-3
lost in CUNYAC final
Illinois Wesleyan    9.952    15-6
lost in CCIW final
               
31-40
Puget Sound    9.944    16-2 Pool A NWC
Widener    9.920    20-5 
Lost In Finals
Ursinus     9.917    19-5 Plays in finals on Sunday vs John Hopkins
Lakeland    9.905    17-4
Lost in semis of LMC
UW-La Crosse    9.880    18-7
Lost in semis of WIAC
SUNY-Farmingdale    9.875    19-5
Pool A auto SUNY
UW-Stout    9.870    18-5 
lost in WIAC final
Randolph-Macon    9.840    19-6
Lost in Finals
Fisk    9.800    10-5 pool B contender
Keene State    9.800    18-7
Lost to Mass-Boston in Finals
               
41-50
MIT     9.792    17-7 plays Worcester Polytech Sunday
Trinity (Conn.)     9.750    15-5
Lost in semis of NESCAC
Occidental     9.750    12-4
CMS has the Pool A
Calvin    9.733  13-2   
lost in MIAA final
Utica     9.692    20-6
Lost in finals of Empire 8
Messiah    9.583    17-7 MACC champ pool A
Catholic    9.542    19-5 CAC champ pool A auto
Whitworth    9.542    18-6
Lost in MWC final
Howard Payne    9.520    19-6 Plays Mississippi College  on Sunday
New York University    9.500    17-7
lost last game on Saturday


Bold=games to be played today, loss = C  candidate
Strikethourgh=Pool A or B
Glow = C candidates



Calvin had better hope the committe doesn't go strictly on QOWI.........which they've done in the past.  There are also 4 teams in the top 10 QOWI who are virtual locks if they lose their games today.

So in 1 week we go from Hope being on the bubble to Calvin being on the bubble........crazy system

arena

Quote from: sac on February 26, 2006, 12:19:54 PM
Quote from: arena on February 26, 2006, 07:52:58 AM
Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on February 26, 2006, 07:37:37 AM
Quote from: arena on February 26, 2006, 07:12:42 AM
Yeah, but y'all missed out on your first goal.   ;)

True - but your net in our trophy case makes up for it

Well, I suppose since we have yours from a couple years ago, its 5x5.

......except you have none when playing Hope for the title.  ;) ;D

I suppose that might hurt after you've won a couple National Championships.

gohope

Keeping it simple, the writer from the Grand Rapids Press in today's paper sums up the Hope-Calvin game from yesterday:  "Statement clear: Hope rules"

Supersweetness for the Dutchmen and the Dutch - Conference Tournament Champions.  Truly this was "Our Week of Hope."

And to keep a little fuel on the fire, my favorite chant from the Dew Crew last night:  "Walk home safely!!"   :D

Go Hope!




knightmoves

The G.R. Press always has been & always will be a Hope biased paper. Seems weird for a G.R. paper, but it's the truth. I'll say Hope rules for 2005-2006 only if they win the National Championship. Even if that happens, they will still be one behind Calvin!

KnightSlappy

It looks like the Calvin loss put a dent in their QoWi.  I still think they are a 'lock' to get in considering that thier only losses came against Hope.  Even if I was a Hope fan and Calvin didn't get in I would be irate.

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 26, 2006, 01:30:37 PM
It looks like the Calvin loss put a dent in their QoWi.  I still think they are a 'lock' to get in considering that thier only losses came against Hope.  Even if I was a Hope fan and Calvin didn't get in I would be irate.

Calvin should be quite safe.  In the Daily Dose, Pat projects Calvin as the 10th (of 18) C teams taken.  He's got a real good track record on projecting the field, so even if he's off by a few spots, Calvin should still be safely within the top 18.

realist

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Sac:  I have to agree with you that this is a crazy sytem. 
"If you are catching flack it means you are over the target".  Brietbart.

oldknight

Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 26, 2006, 01:30:37 PM
It looks like the Calvin loss put a dent in their QoWi.  I still think they are a 'lock' to get in considering that thier only losses came against Hope.  Even if I was a Hope fan and Calvin didn't get in I would be irate.

I suspect that a lot of Hope fans really don't give a rip if Calvin gets in.

A few more thoughts from last night's game--

The T called on Glenn was interesting. As Draayer passed by the Hope bench on his way to setting up the 3 ball he shot and made, Glenn was standing on the floor (just barely) and pointing--presumably to his players. Glenn's hand or finger inadvertantly brushed Draayer as he went by, the shot went in, and the trailing ref never hesitated
in blowing his whistle and pointing to Glenn while making the call. I think Glenn's argument was essentially that he touched Draayer before Draayer ever shot the ball and therefore the T call should nullify the field goal attempt. That's actually a pretty good argument but the ref didn't buy it and it turned into a 5 point play for Calvin.

The intentional foul call on Voison was, I think, a preventative measure on the part of the official. The game was pretty physical and I think the ref made a conscious decision to head off trouble at the pass and send a message to the players. I think that's a good officiating strategy, especially in a game where it was obvious Hope was going to win anyway.

Reimink is a stud. I saw him play last year as a high school senior and was pretty impressed. Like Matt Kingshott of Zeeland West, Reimink is a football player with basketball skills. He'll do well at Hope.

realist

Oldknight:  Perhaps the trailing ref. didn't see the contact, let the play continue, and just T'd GVW for simply being on the floor. 
"If you are catching flack it means you are over the target".  Brietbart.

oldknight

Quote from: realist on February 26, 2006, 02:41:25 PM
Oldknight:  Perhaps the trailing ref. didn't see the contact, let the play continue, and just T'd GVW for simply being on the floor. 

That's quite possible in view of the fact that the ref let the score stand. Glenn was on the floor although not by much. Officials tend to ignore that violation as long as coaches don't abuse the privilege and don't interfere with play.

realist

I suspect the ref. was just rying to send a meesage.  He may have interpreted the finger pointing as directed at Drayers, so he T'd GVW rather than just giving a warning .  Moot/mute point now.
"If you are catching flack it means you are over the target".  Brietbart.

KnightSlappy

The intentional foul call on Voisin seemed very legitimate from where I sat.  Meckes (i believe) was going for the layup and Voisin basically put a shoulder into him without even an attempt at the ball.