MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[devossed]

Devossed-
Thanks for the Karma and congrats on hitting the milestone.

Thanks--it's been a long time coming (and holding back wanting to smite a few choice people!)

You are welcome--but I think I owe you one more for your "Frank the Tank" quotes...

[knightmoves]

Sac, or any other knowlegeable poster: What is the NCAA rule on ticket distribution for Saturday night's game? In other words, if Hope & Calvin both win, how many tickets does Hope get & how many does Calvin get?
Don't guess. I want the facts.
Thanks

[KnightSlappy]

I just got back from getting my tix at the DeVos.  There were only 480 available for season tix holders and when they're gone, they're all gone.  According to Tom Renner the 480 is part of the returned tix from the other teams.  So I'll be surprised if there are any left tomorrow for public sale.  He was pretty sure they would all be gone today.  There were around 200 people in line with people still arriving as I left.

So what ended up being the breakdown in ticket sales between the schools?  480 is only 14% of the stadium.  If it is true that Hope gets 50% plus returned tickets that seems to indicate the students bought up a lot of seats.  True?

I heard that returned tickets get evenly shared among schools requesting extras.

I believe that for the regional final tickets get split 2/3 for the host and 1/3 visitor.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

So what ended up being the breakdown in ticket sales between the schools?  480 is only 14% of the stadium.  If it is true that Hope gets 50% plus returned tickets that seems to indicate the students bought up a lot of seats.  True?

I would guess it was a lot of students (which I have no problem with) and faculty and staff (which I do have a problem with).  The problem I have with the faculty and staff is that I know for a fact that there are some in this group who have been to 1 game (the Calvin game of course) all year, and they still get tickets to this game, while I know there are some season ticket holders who have not missed a game in 30+ years who will not get a ticket.  That is not right!!!

[tniem]

I believe that for the regional final tickets get split 2/3 for the host and 1/3 visitor.

That was mentioned earlier on this board as being the case for the second round game if Hope wins.  I would assume it is 50-50 if the host school loses the first round game.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

knightslappy is correct - the NCAA rules are that the hosting team gets 2/3rd's of the tickets and the visiting team gets 1/3.  

As for returned tickets - my understanding of the rule was that the returned tickets were given to the host school to distribute at their discretion

[knightmoves]

What time do the doors open at DeVos tomorrow for the games?

[tniem]

So what ended up being the breakdown in ticket sales between the schools?  480 is only 14% of the stadium.  If it is true that Hope gets 50% plus returned tickets that seems to indicate the students bought up a lot of seats.  True?

The problem I have with the faculty and staff is that I know for a fact that there are some in this group who have been to 1 game (the Calvin game of course) all year, and they still get tickets to this game, while I know there are some season ticket holders who have not missed a game in 30+ years who will not get a ticket.  That is not right!!!

There would be a number of people over the years (at least at the Civic, not sure now) that would be upset with the idea of someone being able to hold on to season tickets for 30 years.  Just the flip side to the equation.

And I understand the frustration with the faculty/staff tickets.  But it was my understanding that they had a system where they had to check in at each game to show their commitment to get tickets to the Hope-Calvin game.  Do they use that for the tournament too?  And if not, why not?

[Flying Dutch Fan]

What time do the doors open at DeVos tomorrow for the games?

I would guess 5:00pm - they've always stuck to 1 hour before tipoff

[AndersDY]

And I understand the frustration with the faculty/staff tickets.  But it was my understanding that they had a system where they had to check in at each game to show their commitment to get tickets to the Hope-Calvin game.  Do they use that for the tournament too?  And if not, why not?

I was going to point this out as well, being a prof's kid. Mommy has to sign in with someone with a clipboard for every regular season game we attend. The faculty Calvin tickets go to those people who have attended other games so I assume faculty who attend no other games during the year have the same chance as any general public to buy tickets for the Calvin games, or at least they are at the bottom of the list to get at the tickets reserved for faculty.

As for a game in the NCAAs, I don't know whether they've cracked that clipboard back out to see that regular attendees are the ones getting faculty seats. The people in the faculty section for regular games and the big games seem to be a pretty consistent group of regulars. If there are people who are managing to skip every other game but are dedicated enough that they want to steal seats reserved for faculty for the big games, I would have to guess this is a pretty insignificant number.  

[Flying Dutch Fan]

And I understand the frustration with the faculty/staff tickets.  But it was my understanding that they had a system where they had to check in at each game to show their commitment to get tickets to the Hope-Calvin game.  Do they use that for the tournament too?  And if not, why not?

I'm just sick thinking about several people who won't get in, despite having been at every game - including away games - for the last couple of years.

[AndersDY]

Uh oh guys, look what I just found. Check out the size of some of the post players in the back row. We could be in trouble Friday... 



Jokes aside, 23 guys in the team picture? They must not have a separate JV.

[realist]

Pat's comments in his article are interesting.  Few of us doubt that Hope has the talent to make it all the way.  As expressed before it is those crazy bounces that make the tournament fun.  This just drives the pressure up a notch or two further for Hope.  Like they needed more pressure to perform.  I agree with oldknight that Hope seemed very focused last weekend, and if they maintain that they can have a nice run.  However, relax for a minute, and it might come back to haunt you.  If Hope were to look past anyone at this point it would probably be Calvin.  You know the familiarity "breeds contempt" concept.
Sac.  Kudos for the "caught dead" comment, and for the especially snappy "dead yes, alive never" comeback  kcrest.
Greg S.  Defiance was a mistake driven by the need to add a f-ball school to get an AQ.  Not every experience has a happy ending, but that one did.   

[diehardfan]

FDF-
If you hadn't worn the orange shorts, you may have been warmer.  Save those for game day.

Now why didn't I think of that

Am I to understand correctly that there is some sort of "don't remove "THE SHORTS" thing in playoff times? If so, may God have mercy on your wife. 

Uh oh guys, look what I just found. Check out the size of some of the post players in the back row. We could be in trouble Friday... 

Another karma point for you! 

[Pat Coleman]

Yes, for those that missed it, Pat gave us the www.d3hoops.com jinx going into the tourney. Please tell me that he has a history of rightness in such picks as opposed to an SI cover type effect.

Very cute with the final line though.

We picked UW-Stevens Point last year. The year before the team we picked made it to the title game but lost.