MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[maroonandgold]

Quote from: calvinite on Yesterday at 08:31:54 pm

   

Who is the center from Calvin Christian, and which Calvin Christian (MI, MN, CA) is he from?

[quote from Almaguirejr]Josh Miller, Calvin Christian, Grandville, MI.  He's a 6'8" kid that will need some time to develop.
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Thanks for the additional information.  I knew nothing about Josh Miller other than that he is tall.  And Kalamazoo College has not had much size over the years.  Sounds as if it will be a while if he is able to have much of an impact.

[sac]

Stumbled upon this Detroit PSL link this morning.   1980's high school all-state teams, a couple MIAA names I recognized.   Some great names you probably haven't heard in a long time in there.

http://www.detroitpslbasketball.com/?page_id=137

[sac]

Hope has captains

http://athletics.hope.edu/sports/mbkb/2013-14/releases/20131008303io2?fb_action_ids=682550641769623&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map={%22682550641769623%22%3A555687234480539}&action_type_map={%22682550641769623%22%3A%22og.likes%22}&action_ref_map=[]

(that's a long, messy link)

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Hope has captains

http://athletics.hope.edu/sports/mbkb/2013-14/releases/20131008303io2?fb_action_ids=682550641769623&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map={%22682550641769623%22%3A555687234480539}&action_type_map={%22682550641769623%22%3A%22og.likes%22}&action_ref_map=[]

(that's a long, messy link)

"With great pride, our program is pleased to announce our captains for this upcoming season," Hope coach Matt Nail said.

Whoops!

[Gregory Sager]

As Baruch's Observation postulates, if all you have is a hammer, every coach looks like a nail.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Hope has captains

http://athletics.hope.edu/sports/mbkb/2013-14/releases/20131008303io2?fb_action_ids=682550641769623&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map={%22682550641769623%22%3A555687234480539}&action_type_map={%22682550641769623%22%3A%22og.likes%22}&action_ref_map=[]

(that's a long, messy link)

"With great pride, our program is pleased to announce our captains for this upcoming season," Hope coach Matt Nail said.

Whoops!

Honest mistake and certainly understandable.  I suspect the writer had just recently discussed the upcoming season with Hope's new president as well.  With President Knapp being from the south, no doubt his pronunciation of the coaches name lead to this misspelling.      

[sac]

Final weekend of freedom for D3 basketball players everywhere.  Be good out there.

[maroonandgold]

HollandKnight

May 09, 2013, 09:40:21 pm »

After a long day of fishing on Wednesday i came to think about Calvin basketball and the leaving of Tom Snikkers. In recruiting they haven't gotten many players of his position type... They have gotten Welch, Drews and Kronemeyer but are any of these ball players of the position Snikkers. Drews or Kronemeyer are to small (it reminds me too much of the kind of fish I caught ) and lack rebounding along with returning players such as Vallie or Huizenga. Or do they play Welch or Dykstra at that position or are they to tall and lack speed or shooting. (Neither of those seem to be a problem with either but if TyDyk lacked scoring from a power forward position it won't change much when he moves to a small forward. Unless he shoots more often which could help) But do they take risks playing people like Daley who took a large number of shots at the JV level and didn't always make as many as he would have liked. Also there is Devries who shows clutch shooting and great defense but didn't score on a regular basis. Mast could be a good fit showing a good shooting touch but he has seen limited action. Unless they go out and recruit a player to fill that position it overall may be a question mark.

With all the time that has passed since this was written by Holland Knight in May, the big question for Calvin that remains as DIII begins practice this week is still the same.  Who will Calvin have that will provide a strong replacement for the 3 spot that Tom Snikkers handled so well?  Mast strikes me as a strong option if he can drive and handle the ball well enough.  There is no question about his ability to shoot.  Does he have the endurance for longer stretches  and can he rebound well enough?  He probably does and can.  I agree that Tyler Dykstra, Mickey De Vries, and welch seem a better fit for a 2  position.  But they would be possibilities if they were quicker, better at passing, and better at getting off shots quickly and accurately.  Both Dykstra and De Vries have shown that they can shoot a good percentage from the outside if they have plenty of time; but the quick, accurate release is another issue.  What about T J Huizinga?  He seems to have the ability to shoot accurately, pass well, and has enough size to rebound.  He does lack experience at that position--both because we had it covered so thoroughly with Snikkers and DeBoer as an outstanding backup and because for the last few years we have used natural forwards like Huizinga and Vallie at guard due a lack of college level guards.  Derek Westman from Napervile sounds as if he could excellent at this position or at shooting guard once he has enough college experience.  From the little I saw of B J Van Loo in tournaments last year, I had the impression he might do well at the 3 position, too.   So it will be interesting to see how it plays out once they get to the point of picking starters and backups who will see regular action.  It sounds as if the guard position will be in much better shape than in many recent years with Brink, Visser, Parks, and 4 other freshmen guards who were mentioned as coming to play.

Even though Hope lost 6 players due to graduation last year, their strong freshman class from last year should provide both starting guards for this year (Gardner and Eidson) and Brock Benson at forward.  With juniors Byers and VanArendonk as the 2 remaining starters, the biggest questions should be about the players who will receive the bulk of the time off the bench. 

Alma and Kalamazoo will likely have major contributions from freshmen, and Trine with 6-7 Hunter Powell from McBain and Olivet with 6-7 Riley Boyers have some better size available if they are ready to play at the college level this year.  So as practice begins there should a lot of interest to see how teams develop this year--even more so than most years!

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So as practice begins there should a lot of interest to see how teams develop this year--even more so than most years!

We often say teams have rebuilding years and I think in the case of the MIAA as a group its a rebuilding year.  I wouldn't at all be surprised to see the league dip below the .500 mark in non-conference play.

[almcguirejr]

HollandKnight

May 09, 2013, 09:40:21 pm »

After a long day of fishing on Wednesday i came to think about Calvin basketball and the leaving of Tom Snikkers. In recruiting they haven't gotten many players of his position type... They have gotten Welch, Drews and Kronemeyer but are any of these ball players of the position Snikkers. Drews or Kronemeyer are to small (it reminds me too much of the kind of fish I caught ) and lack rebounding along with returning players such as Vallie or Huizenga. Or do they play Welch or Dykstra at that position or are they to tall and lack speed or shooting. (Neither of those seem to be a problem with either but if TyDyk lacked scoring from a power forward position it won't change much when he moves to a small forward. Unless he shoots more often which could help) But do they take risks playing people like Daley who took a large number of shots at the JV level and didn't always make as many as he would have liked. Also there is Devries who shows clutch shooting and great defense but didn't score on a regular basis. Mast could be a good fit showing a good shooting touch but he has seen limited action. Unless they go out and recruit a player to fill that position it overall may be a question mark.

With all the time that has passed since this was written by Holland Knight in May, the big question for Calvin that remains as DIII begins practice this week is still the same.  Who will Calvin have that will provide a strong replacement for the 3 spot that Tom Snikkers handled so well?  Mast strikes me as a strong option if he can drive and handle the ball well enough.  There is no question about his ability to shoot.  Does he have the endurance for longer stretches  and can he rebound well enough?  He probably does and can.  I agree that Tyler Dykstra, Mickey De Vries, and welch seem a better fit for a 2  position.  But they would be possibilities if they were quicker, better at passing, and better at getting off shots quickly and accurately.  Both Dykstra and De Vries have shown that they can shoot a good percentage from the outside if they have plenty of time; but the quick, accurate release is another issue.  What about T J Huizinga?  He seems to have the ability to shoot accurately, pass well, and has enough size to rebound.  He does lack experience at that position--both because we had it covered so thoroughly with Snikkers and DeBoer as an outstanding backup and because for the last few years we have used natural forwards like Huizinga and Vallie at guard due a lack of college level guards.  Derek Westman from Napervile sounds as if he could excellent at this position or at shooting guard once he has enough college experience.  From the little I saw of B J Van Loo in tournaments last year, I had the impression he might do well at the 3 position, too.   So it will be interesting to see how it plays out once they get to the point of picking starters and backups who will see regular action.  It sounds as if the guard position will be in much better shape than in many recent years with Brink, Visser, Parks, and 4 other freshmen guards who were mentioned as coming to play.

Even though Hope lost 6 players due to graduation last year, their strong freshman class from last year should provide both starting guards for this year (Gardner and Eidson) and Brock Benson at forward.  With juniors Byers and VanArendonk as the 2 remaining starters, the biggest questions should be about the players who will receive the bulk of the time off the bench. 

Alma and Kalamazoo will likely have major contributions from freshmen, and Trine with 6-7 Hunter Powell from McBain and Olivet with 6-7 Riley Boyers have some better size available if they are ready to play at the college level this year.  So as practice begins there should a lot of interest to see how teams develop this year--even more so than most years!

I think Calvin can find someone to fill the Snikkers role.  Finding 2-3 players to replace Rietema and Powell will be the key to getting back to the NCAA Tournament IMHO.

[KnightSlappy]

So as practice begins there should a lot of interest to see how teams develop this year--even more so than most years!

We often say teams have rebuilding years and I think in the case of the MIAA as a group its a rebuilding year.  I wouldn't at all be surprised to see the league dip below the .500 mark in non-conference play.

In fact, I'd be shocked if they were above .500. Seems like a potentially brutal year coming up. Going to make it tough again for an MIAA to get a Pool C.

[maroonandgold]

Sac

We often say teams have rebuilding years and I think in the case of the MIAA as a group its a rebuilding year.

This comment from SAC says it best.  The one exception appears to be Hope, which had a head start last year.  Adrian, too, has only lost a couple of players to graduation.  And even those 2 teams need significant changes.  But for the rest of the league it certainly is a rebuilding year, and the speed at which new players learn and assume new roles will pretty much determine whether the MIAA is competitive with other D3 leagues.  Admittedly, it does not look real good at this point.

[oldknight]

HollandKnight

May 09, 2013, 09:40:21 pm »

After a long day of fishing on Wednesday i came to think about Calvin basketball and the leaving of Tom Snikkers. In recruiting they haven't gotten many players of his position type... They have gotten Welch, Drews and Kronemeyer but are any of these ball players of the position Snikkers. Drews or Kronemeyer are to small (it reminds me too much of the kind of fish I caught ) and lack rebounding along with returning players such as Vallie or Huizenga. Or do they play Welch or Dykstra at that position or are they to tall and lack speed or shooting. (Neither of those seem to be a problem with either but if TyDyk lacked scoring from a power forward position it won't change much when he moves to a small forward. Unless he shoots more often which could help) But do they take risks playing people like Daley who took a large number of shots at the JV level and didn't always make as many as he would have liked. Also there is Devries who shows clutch shooting and great defense but didn't score on a regular basis. Mast could be a good fit showing a good shooting touch but he has seen limited action. Unless they go out and recruit a player to fill that position it overall may be a question mark.

With all the time that has passed since this was written by Holland Knight in May, the big question for Calvin that remains as DIII begins practice this week is still the same.  Who will Calvin have that will provide a strong replacement for the 3 spot that Tom Snikkers handled so well?  Mast strikes me as a strong option if he can drive and handle the ball well enough.  There is no question about his ability to shoot.  Does he have the endurance for longer stretches  and can he rebound well enough?  He probably does and can.  I agree that Tyler Dykstra, Mickey De Vries, and welch seem a better fit for a 2  position.  But they would be possibilities if they were quicker, better at passing, and better at getting off shots quickly and accurately.  Both Dykstra and De Vries have shown that they can shoot a good percentage from the outside if they have plenty of time; but the quick, accurate release is another issue.  What about T J Huizinga?  He seems to have the ability to shoot accurately, pass well, and has enough size to rebound.  He does lack experience at that position--both because we had it covered so thoroughly with Snikkers and DeBoer as an outstanding backup and because for the last few years we have used natural forwards like Huizinga and Vallie at guard due a lack of college level guards.  Derek Westman from Napervile sounds as if he could excellent at this position or at shooting guard once he has enough college experience.  From the little I saw of B J Van Loo in tournaments last year, I had the impression he might do well at the 3 position, too.   So it will be interesting to see how it plays out once they get to the point of picking starters and backups who will see regular action.  It sounds as if the guard position will be in much better shape than in many recent years with Brink, Visser, Parks, and 4 other freshmen guards who were mentioned as coming to play.

I recommend reading KnightSlappy's Forever Faithful blog post of October 1. It's early, and maybe you'll find a nit to pick, but it's a pretty fair summary at this point.

[maroonandgold]

oldknight

02:05:40 pm »

I recommend reading KnightSlappy's Forever Faithful blog post of October 1. It's early, and maybe you'll find a nit to pick, but it's a pretty fair summary at this point.

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Thanks for the tip.  I thought he was right on!  He was able to fill in some information about the players coming off the JV and the most likely role for Dan Stout (I had wondered if he might play more forward with Borwer as backup center).  The only other item that was a little surprise is how highly he rated Jordan Daley's likelihood of more playing time at forward and shooting guard.  Daley looked good when I saw him last year, but I still am not sure how to compare him and Huizinga and their likely amounts of playing time.

[realist]

IMHO Calvin fans should be expecting no less than another 20 win season.  Instead of focusing on what Calvin lost, or might not have, focus on what it does have, and come up with a plan to use this talent to best advantage.