MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[Dark Knight]

Another game worthy of the history books, but the last-second three-pointer didn't fall today. (Imagine the pandemonium if it had!)

The knights had a season that far exceeded expectation--picked 3rd in the MIAA again this year, finished first, and did well in the NCAAs.

Hope will no doubt be picked first again next year, but the knights are only losing 3 players, and there are some good prospects. Should be another good year next year.

Dutchmen: represent the MIAA well!

[NYKnight]

Thanks for the karma. I'll start off next year with a bang!

[dothedew]

For those of you not there...this wasn't made clear on the radio...Hope did foul the first time when they had one to give...but they did NOT intentionall foul at the end there to put Calvin on the line...
Also, the final three MAY have hit the rim..but I guess it never really had a "chance"
Although as the witness of aaron winkle...tear..............it aint over till it's over.
I will go to my GRAVE remembering his three with chad c in his face at calvin my frosh year...

BUT TODAY IS A HAPPY DAY...I can't even begin to imagine what would have happened if that 3 had dropped.

HOPE/CALVIN...it does NOT get any better.....AND you can go ahead and tell ESPN and their 4 stations covering the UNC/Duke game tonight...they really missed out by not sending one of those cameras to Holland, MI!!!!

[kcrest]

Another game worth of the history books, but the last-second three-pointer didn't fall today. (Imagine the pandemonium if it had!)

The knights had a season that far exceeded expectation--picked 3rd in the MIAA agian this year, finished first, and did well in the NCAAs.

Hope will no doubt be picked first again next year, but the knights are only losing 3 players, and there are some good prospects. Should be another good year next year.

Dutchmen: represent the MIAA well!

Congrats to Hope.  And congrats to the Knights after another amazing performance by Calvin.  Still not sure how the Knights stay in the same zip code as Hope tonight, but they did.  Incredible.  Nice careers for a trio of Calvin seniors.  And a nice first season for a pretty good Calvin point guard.  I hope Hope makes a nice run and continues the MIAA pattern of success in the NCAAs.

[TigerFan_1973]

Is anybody out here?

I've got the fourth game in the Section on at Mississippi College vs. Maryville.

[dothedew]

Hope women won 75-56 against the host team....WOW
way to go dutch!!!

a great night to be a Hope fan.

[TigerFan_1973]

Mississippi College is up by 16 in the second half.  Looks like they will be the fourth team in the sectional.

[arena]

Just got back from the game.  Heck of a game called by the refs tonight.  Heck of a game.

Fans out there who saw the game, you'll have to explain something to me.  Please.  How can every drive down the lane by a Hope guard be called a blocking foul on the defender when the offensive player makes initial contact?  And yet, when Veldhouse has contact made on him by the defender, its an offensive foul?  I was sitting right in front of that call.  There is absolutly no way that was an offensive foul.  Ridiculous is a clean word for that call.

I really don't understand how refs can let extreme physical play go on all night long with no fouls calls, and yet, with the game on the line, call something like that.  Its unfortunate that the game was taken out of the player's hands at that point.



I'm still very upset at what I saw tonight.  Maybe things will make more sense in the morning.  Hope, enjoy your victory over a team that outplayed you.

[GoKnights68]

I hate complaining about the refs as much as anybody, but they were horrible tonight.  Especially that last charge call with 15 seconds.

Again, I usually hate complaining about refs, but these guys had issues.


Good luck Hope...

[sac]

HOPE 70 Calvin 67

I'm fairly speechless and a little dumbfounded on what to post actually.  It was only minutes ago I was finally able to get that lump out of my throat that appeared around the 10 minute mark of the second half.  

If you've ever witnessed a Hope/Calvin game in person then you know what happened at DeVos tonight.  Simply two teams giving it all in every way, we had players diving on the floor, physical hard play, controversial calls, a little bloodshed and great, great shots......and lots of those.

If you want the truth Hope won this on Greg Immink's circus layup late in the second which was simply eye popping and it came at a time when Hope was really struggling to score points.  Meckes had that one lined up and was ready to chuck it out into about the 10th row.  Somehow Greg contorted himself and got the ball up there.  Amazing!

Big applause to the  Calvin Knights who just gutted this one out all game, they never gave up, played hard and made all but a couple critical shots in the final minutes.  Seriously standing ovation to the Knights.  This should have a been a  Sectional Final game not a second round matchup.

I'm sure the talk will eventually turn to the call on Caleb at the end.......I don't know I was way too far away.  In general I thought the officiating was disappointing for a tournament game.  I think what we saw this weekend was the result of an MIAA season where the officials let the kids play and didn't get in the way much.  Now we have new crews who call a tighter game.  Tough to adjust.

Interesting the way the final minutes played out, almost as if the basketball gods were taunting the Orange and Blue faithful from above..............Hope wins easy if they just make FT's.

Again congrats to the Knights on a great season, sorry to see Andy Draayer and Kyle Trewhellas careers at Calvin come to end on a bit of bitter note but they did it by leaving their hearts on the floor.

Cognrats to Hope.........another long week of practice and anticipation for the next one.

Whew!!    

[GoKnights68]

You said it well, Arena.  I just wish they would have gotten better refs for this game.  I don't know what their problem was tonight. 


Hope fans all stay at the Dick pretty long?  I am preparing for this place to be flooded by Hope fans any second now.

Again, I apologize for my complaining about the refs

[arena]

HOPE 70 Calvin 67







I'm sure the talk will eventually turn to the call on Caleb at the end.......I don't know I was way too far away.  In general I thought the officiating was disappointing for a tournament game.  I think what we saw this weekend was the result of an MIAA season where the officials let the kids play and didn't get in the way much.  Now we have new crews who call a tighter game.  Tough to adjust.

You think that game was called tightly?

[arena]

You said it well, Arena.  I just wish they would have gotten better refs for this game.  I don't know what their problem was tonight. 


Hope fans all stay at the Dick pretty long?  I am preparing for this place to be flooded by Hope fans any second now.

Again, I apologize for my complaining about the refs

No apology needed.  In fact, I'd say in this case its warranted.

[oldknight]

I would give almost anything to know how much terror went through the average Dutch heart when, with 20 seconds left, Veldhouse came down the floor in a 2 on 1 along with Draayer on the left wing and the Knights trailing by 2. Veldhouse chose to take it all the way and was whistled for the offensive foul, a call Immink sold pretty well I thought. As Caleb approached the arc wide open I wanted so badly for him to pull up and go for the lead rather take it to the basket and the tie. He chose otherwise and the rest is history. On the drive home from the game I learned that Wentworth couldn't see and didn't know who took the last deperation 3 from the corner after Veldhouse deliberately missed his second free throw. It was Veldhouse who took that shot. He was double teamed and it was a shot so heavily pressured that he might make it once in every 25 attempts.

The game was a carbon copy of the regular season game at the Fieldhouse minus the winning 3. Calvin just hung around and hung around with Hope unable to put the Knights away in the last 6 minutes. I thought Hope looked tight down the stretch but Immink saved Glenn's bacon. He was the only Hope player who performed well in the last few minutes with 2 timely free throws and an amazing reverse layup with about 3 minutes left when it appeard that Meckes was going to stuff his shot.

Hope won because they played better for more of the 40 minutes than did Calvin. Specifically Hope won because they forced critical turnovers and turnovers into baskets to build a lead that Calvin couldn't quite surmount. But if Hope expects to have a banner year they simply must perform better down the stretch of close games. The Dutch have only had 2 close games all year and in both games they did not perform well with some of their key players looking lost.

Congratulations to Hope. Do well the rest of the way and do the MIAA proud. Congratulations also to a gritty band of Knight players. I doubted you too many times this year but you accomplished a lot. Looking forward to great things from the returning players.

[sac]

HOPE PLAYS
HOPE WINS

Surprisingly Hope didn't play, and still won.  They got outworked in the last 3/4's of the game.........and just like at  Calvin the first time went into an offensive shell.  Somehow they lived to talk about it.  

By the way whats the minutes led by Hope in the four games now?  Tonight I think it was the last 39 minutes.

For those of you not there...this wasn't made clear on the radio...Hope did foul the first time when they had one to give...but they did NOT intentionall foul at the end there to put Calvin on the line...
Also, the final three MAY have hit the rim..but I guess it never really had a "chance"

Your correct, Hope had a foul to give, they waited for Veldhouse to cross midcourt and hacked him saved a few seconds.

The second foul was one of the many head scratchers where you just ask why call it there ?  Set up an ineresting make and miss situation.

Velhouse's shot was a prayer in the deepest sense.  Behind the backboard, a line drive that barely got above the rim and clanked off the backboard.  Had it gone in........well it just would have been another in a long line of Calvin prayers wouldn't it.

We might be still playing actually.

You think that game was called tightly?

Tighter is probably not the right word.........different definatley.  Things that weren't fouls in the MIAA were called all weekend.