MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

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Pat Coleman

Quote from: AlwaysHope on January 24, 2018, 03:19:08 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on January 23, 2018, 09:10:23 PM
... and the Winkle shot was, what, 18 years ago? All of those JV freshmen that wiz was talking about the other day were born the season that Winkle made that shot.

Like I said, nine years ago is yesterday with you Rivalry types. :D

That banked Winkle shot also messed up the publicity machine for the MIAA.  Had he missed it with only a few seconds remaining in regulation, and assuming no further scoring by Calvin, Hope would have won the game, tying the all-time series at 72 - 72.  It was the final game of the year 2000 between the two teams.

The Rivalry then could have sent our news releases stating that "Hope/Calvin are now tied at the end of the Second Millennium!"  (Assuming we use the Gregorian calendar)

FWIW, I think there was more publicity generated by the unlikely shot, and the audio of the great call, which was not a given in 2000, than the lost opportunity of having a tied Rivalry at that particular point in time.
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Jameswys

I wasn't able to live stream the Olivet/Hope game last weekend (it is pledge season at Olivet and I was busy) but having watched the clip that SAC put up, I was really impressed with the quality of the footage. Score graphics, time left, camera quality, it was all very impressive. I will do my best to stream games from now on even when Olivet isn't involved. Good job Hope.
Olivet '05

oldknight

Quote from: pointlem on January 23, 2018, 08:44:58 PM

Detailed game reports after 53 years?  Boy what I'd give for memories like yours OldKnight and, especially, AlwaysHope. But are your cerebral hard drives nearing capacity? ;)
P.S. My mirror image painful memory is the 40-foot Winkle backboard carom that was finally balanced this year by the Dennis Towns counterpart shot.

To quote the inestimable and longsuffering Mrs. Oldknight who puts up is regularly regaled with my stories: "I would happily sell you those memories; just name your price!"

CK150408

Wow, couple changes to the Knight's lineup... Walter's for Bos and the older Morrison for his freshman brother

oldknight

Quote from: CK150408 on January 24, 2018, 07:56:35 PM
Wow, couple changes to the Knight's lineup... Walter's for Bos and the older Morrison for his freshman brother

Yeah, I raised an eyebrow as well. KVS decided it's time to shake things up.

Bulldog30

Offensively poor game in Adrian tonight so far. Adrian up 27 to 16 at half.

Kalamazoo has 12 turnovers (several shot clock violations) where Adrian has fastbreaked them following those TOs, but Adrian can't do much in the half court.

Defensively, Adrian's quickness has caused K-zoo to go 6 of 20 and 1 of 8 from 3. Adrian hasn't been much better though, at least in their set, but great D from the much more athletic Bulldogs.

I have been surprised at Adrian's 3point percentage this season, and tonight is why. They are 4 of 13 from 3 tonight, but more importantly, the misses are way off for the most part.

Also, Adrian players have to stop spin moving on their drives. The collapsed D is right there when they do it. Figure something out! Got to get better looks.

Bulldog30

Also of note, Adrian had Sam Colbert come off the bench tonight and have gone 9 deep so far. Worked so far as Adrian is winning the bench point battle 3 to 0 so far.  ::)

Young Knight 14

Quote from: oldknight on January 24, 2018, 08:19:20 PM
Quote from: CK150408 on January 24, 2018, 07:56:35 PM
Wow, couple changes to the Knight's lineup... Walter's for Bos and the older Morrison for his freshman brother

Yeah, I raised an eyebrow as well. KVS decided it's time to shake things up.
It was definitely time to get Bos out of the starting lineup, the Morrison switch has me scratching my head.

oldknight

Calvin trails Olivet at half 42-30, playing lousy defense and making 11 turnovers. Seems like they're down more than 12 actually.

oldknight

#45099
In a game somewhat reminiscent of Calvin's home loss to Albion on Saturday, Olivet beats the Knights, using superior perimeter quickness to win 79-71. I thought Ernst made a very curious coaching decision having his team play the second half by mostly taking the air out of the ball, having his guard hold it near half court and using up most of the shot clock. When you're the quicker team, and leading by 12 midway through, it seems to me you're doing your opponent a favor when you don't require your opponent to defend until there is less than 15 second on the shot clock. In the end it didn't matter, but like I said, a curious coaching decision. DeVries with 23, Bykerk, 20 and Walter with 13. Calvin's 19 turnovers were the single most important factor and killed the Knights chances. Jalen Adams was spectacular for Olivet going for 32 points and 11 boards. Other game notes:

--This is not a kind thought to share on a public board but it almost seems to me that some of Calvin's players are cashing in their season early. They just aren't improving like other teams in the league and some Knights defenders frequently just wave at opponents on the way to the basket.

--Turnovers issues have been a problem for most of the year. Generally speaking, this team is simply too impatient, forces passes when a defender clearly is in position, and makes repeated bad decisions with the ball. Don't know how you cure those problems.

knightvision

#45100
    
ADRIAN   5-2   0.714   
OLIVET   5-2   0.714   
TRINE   5-2   0.714   
HOPE   4-3   0.571   
ALBION   3-4   0.429   
ALMA   3-4   0.429   
CALVIN   2-5   0.286   
KAZOO   1-6   0.143   

WOW!? Doesn't seem all that far-fetched to think that 9-5 might get you a share of a conference title.  Has that ever happened?

TUAngola

Trine 100 Alma 97 in OT.

Game full of offense, fun to watch.  It was pretty much a game of mini runs the whole night, Trine would jump out to a 6 or 7 pt lead then Alma would go on a run and lead by 6 or 7, big shot after big shot hit by both teams.

The ending of the game isn't without controversy however (ala Calvin/Kalamazoo).  In OT with Trine up 3 with 0.3 seconds to go, Alma with an inbounds pass under the bucket gets Holmes free on the baseline behind the arc and drains it to tie the game.  Not so fast.  The officials waive it off saying he didn't get the shot off in time.  Alma's coach argues but to no avail, and Holmes was fit to be tied.  Trine has video of the play on the jumbotron, but I don't think the officials looked at it as the reply wasn't shown until after the teams and officials had left the court.  Replay appears to show the red light on the basket come on before the shot leaves his hand, but only by a millisecond.  Wow.

I was really impressed with Alma, how in the world are they only 6-12 record??

Alma: Holmes 26 (he was impressive),  Scheibert 16, Gamble 14, Harvey 14, Rosquist 10
Trine: Hunter 27 (with at least 4 monster jams), Copeland 26 (our bigs were outstanding tonight), Johnson 19, Smith 18.  Winters with a quiet 2pts but with 10 boards and 5 assists.     

GoKnights68

Quote from: knightvision on January 24, 2018, 10:09:37 PM
   
ADRIAN   5-2   0.714   
OLIVET   5-2   0.714   
TRINE   5-2   0.714   
HOPE   4-3   0.571   
ALBION   3-4   0.429   
ALMA   3-4   0.429   
CALVIN   2-5   0.286   
KAZOO   1-6   0.143   

WOW!? Doesn't seem all that far-fetched to think that 9-5 might get you a share of a conference title.  Has that ever happened?

Nope, granted there was quite a long stretch where they didn't play as many as 14 conference games - they started that back up in 1999 and the closest they've come since is in 1999 when Calvin and Hope shared the title at 10-4

Jameswys

Quote from: knightvision on January 24, 2018, 10:09:37 PM

WOW!? Doesn't seem all that far-fetched to think that 9-5 might get you a share of a conference title.  Has that ever happened?

I looked at the MIAA Website, we have never had co champs with 5 losses. In 1973 Olivet and Calvin tied at 8-4 and in 1999 Hope and Calvin tied at 10-4. Granted 1973 wasn't a 14 game schedule.
Olivet '05

sac

Albion 86  Hope 68

Hope put in a miserable performance at Albion tonight.  Don't let the boxscore fool you, Hope shot under 30% for most of the game and only just crossed the 50% FT mark after the game had been conceded.  Hope easily left 15 points at the FT line alone and missed 4 front-end of 1 for 1's I believe. 

Started out ok, but Hope couldn't get any shots to fall early and before long Hope was stuck on 14 points for 5 or 6 minutes.   Albion themselves staggered in front 18-17 with about 5 minutes until halftime.  But from then on it was really all Albion and in a pretty ugly way until the Brits hit a few 3's midway through the second half and Hope wasn't coming back from a 15 point deficit.

The kind of loss you can't take if you want to win the league.


Hope:  Hawkins 24
Albion:  Armstrong 19, Lowe, Fordham 13, Collins 10, Perry 10