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HoopsCoach

Quote from: HopeKnight on April 16, 2019, 05:08:33 PM
Quote from: DrDutchman on April 16, 2019, 01:27:37 PM
Quote from: Dutchman17 on April 16, 2019, 12:27:31 PM
Quote from: HoopsCoach on April 16, 2019, 10:43:09 AM
I'll play - I'm going D. I know, atypical for Hope but we can dream, right?

Beckman
Lewis
Honer
Granger
Gamm

Bench will roll deep this year with Dietz, Davis, George, Thomas, Dykhouse, Hackert, Zandstra, Vree all getting appreciable minutes, and a "hot" guard approach to manage the 6-7 who are bottlenecked there.

I like it
If you enjoy 15 loss seasons you can go with that lineup

That lineup would not win 7 games - only proven players are Lewis & Granger. I'm not convinced that lineup could stop anyone on defense either.

Gamm has to stay healthy and work on his conditioning, Little Danny scored 18 in one game and at 5'9'' struggled on both ends of the floor all year & Honer plays hard but plays scared on offense and is a foul machine on defense. Have to see much more on any of these three.

Competition will be wide open with opportunities for everyone. Lineup & rotation likely to change many times before league play.

Your points are fair regardless of who starts re experience. But I'd take that bet. Could win 7 games w defense alone.

DrDutchman

Quote from: HoopsCoach on April 16, 2019, 03:25:27 PM
Quote from: DrDutchman on April 16, 2019, 01:27:37 PM
Quote from: Dutchman17 on April 16, 2019, 12:27:31 PM
Quote from: HoopsCoach on April 16, 2019, 10:43:09 AM
I'll play - I'm going D. I know, atypical for Hope but we can dream, right?

Beckman
Lewis
Honer
Granger
Gamm

Bench will roll deep this year with Dietz, Davis, George, Thomas, Dykhouse, Hackert, Zandstra, Vree all getting appreciable minutes, and a "hot" guard approach to manage the 6-7 who are bottlenecked there.

I like it
If you enjoy 15 loss seasons you can go with that lineup

Harsh. Maybe I'm old school but give me a team who can stop people first. Lewis and Granger are established scorers. Beckman showed he can score last season, Gamm is a double-double guy if he stays healthy. Only Honer may not score as much in this five but then you go to a bench of scorers. This roster won't just outscore anyone, so hang a hat on D. It sure worked for three of the D1 FF teams...

If you think a freshman will step in and score double digits every game I've got some land to sell you... where else are you going with your five then, Dr Dutchman??
Yeah um... having two, potentially three guys on the floor that are offensive liabilities is not how teams made it to the final four. Your listed starters could be a good defensive lineup against a team with guards 6 feet and under, but they wouldn't be capable of scoring more than 50 points a game.

HupHolland


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Goknights2017

Quote from: HOPEful on April 16, 2019, 04:09:18 PM
Quote from: Goknights2017 on April 16, 2019, 03:59:57 PM
I will take Shymanski, DeWitt, DeVries, Bos, and Meulenberg in the Calvin league.

Also would be surprised if Gamm averages a double double especially with Granger in the lineup.

I'm a little surprised none of those 5 has transferred yet.

Can't tell if that's sarcasm. DeVries and Bos are going to be Seniors. DeWitt will be a junior eligibility wise and a senior academically. Shymansky will be a junior. The only one who academically makes some sense to transfer is Meulenberg. However, these are all "Calvin" guys who come from Calvin feeder schools. I would be shocked if they left. Looking forward to what they can do next year.

Who's this Hudsonville kid everyone's talking about?

HoopsCoach

Quote from: DrDutchman on April 16, 2019, 07:57:07 PM
Quote from: HoopsCoach on April 16, 2019, 03:25:27 PM
Quote from: DrDutchman on April 16, 2019, 01:27:37 PM
Quote from: Dutchman17 on April 16, 2019, 12:27:31 PM
Quote from: HoopsCoach on April 16, 2019, 10:43:09 AM
I'll play - I'm going D. I know, atypical for Hope but we can dream, right?

Beckman
Lewis
Honer
Granger
Gamm

Bench will roll deep this year with Dietz, Davis, George, Thomas, Dykhouse, Hackert, Zandstra, Vree all getting appreciable minutes, and a "hot" guard approach to manage the 6-7 who are bottlenecked there.

I like it
If you enjoy 15 loss seasons you can go with that lineup

Harsh. Maybe I'm old school but give me a team who can stop people first. Lewis and Granger are established scorers. Beckman showed he can score last season, Gamm is a double-double guy if he stays healthy. Only Honer may not score as much in this five but then you go to a bench of scorers. This roster won't just outscore anyone, so hang a hat on D. It sure worked for three of the D1 FF teams...

If you think a freshman will step in and score double digits every game I've got some land to sell you... where else are you going with your five then, Dr Dutchman??
Yeah um... having two, potentially three guys on the floor that are offensive liabilities is not how teams made it to the final four. Your listed starters could be a good defensive lineup against a team with guards 6 feet and under, but they wouldn't be capable of scoring more than 50 points a game.

Only one is an offensive liability. Unproven, I'll give you, but liabilities (Beckman and Gamm) no.

Let's take my five and yours and play. You'd be surprised how tough nosed D turns to easy O and not so much reliance on halfcourt, which stalled a lot last season.

HoopsCoach

Quote from: Goknights2017 on April 16, 2019, 09:11:52 PM
Quote from: HOPEful on April 16, 2019, 04:09:18 PM
Quote from: Goknights2017 on April 16, 2019, 03:59:57 PM
I will take Shymanski, DeWitt, DeVries, Bos, and Meulenberg in the Calvin league.

Also would be surprised if Gamm averages a double double especially with Granger in the lineup.

I'm a little surprised none of those 5 has transferred yet.



Can't tell if that's sarcasm. DeVries and Bos are going to be Seniors. DeWitt will be a junior eligibility wise and a senior academically. Shymansky will be a junior. The only one who academically makes some sense to transfer is Meulenberg. However, these are all "Calvin" guys who come from Calvin feeder schools. I would be shocked if they left. Looking forward to what they can do next year.

Who's this Hudsonville kid everyone's talking about?

Bigger kid from Hud Tri Unity title team. 6-5 ish.

almcguirejr

Quote from: HoopsCoach on April 16, 2019, 10:00:19 PM
Quote from: Goknights2017 on April 16, 2019, 09:11:52 PM
Quote from: HOPEful on April 16, 2019, 04:09:18 PM
Quote from: Goknights2017 on April 16, 2019, 03:59:57 PM
I will take Shymanski, DeWitt, DeVries, Bos, and Meulenberg in the Calvin league.

Also would be surprised if Gamm averages a double double especially with Granger in the lineup.

I'm a little surprised none of those 5 has transferred yet.



Can't tell if that's sarcasm. DeVries and Bos are going to be Seniors. DeWitt will be a junior eligibility wise and a senior academically. Shymansky will be a junior. The only one who academically makes some sense to transfer is Meulenberg. However, these are all "Calvin" guys who come from Calvin feeder schools. I would be shocked if they left. Looking forward to what they can do next year.

Who's this Hudsonville kid everyone's talking about?

Bigger kid from Hud Tri Unity title team. 6-5 ish.

Unity!

HOPEful

Quote from: Goknights2017 on April 16, 2019, 09:11:52 PM
Quote from: HOPEful on April 16, 2019, 04:09:18 PM
Quote from: Goknights2017 on April 16, 2019, 03:59:57 PM
I will take Shymanski, DeWitt, DeVries, Bos, and Meulenberg in the Calvin league.
Also would be surprised if Gamm averages a double double especially with Granger in the lineup.
I'm a little surprised none of those 5 has transferred yet.
Can't tell if that's sarcasm. DeVries and Bos are going to be Seniors. DeWitt will be a junior eligibility wise and a senior academically. Shymansky will be a junior. The only one who academically makes some sense to transfer is Meulenberg. However, these are all "Calvin" guys who come from Calvin feeder schools. I would be shocked if they left. Looking forward to what they can do next year.

It was a sarcastic jab at the high number of players that have left the Calvin basketball program in recent years. I did not actually expect any of those guys to leave. Then again, I didn't expect Connor VanderBrug to leave either.

Let's go Dutchmen!

2015-2016 1-&-Done Tournament Fantasy League Co-Champion

HOPEful

Quote from: HoopsCoach on April 16, 2019, 10:00:19 PM
Quote from: Goknights2017 on April 16, 2019, 09:11:52 PM
Quote from: HOPEful on April 16, 2019, 04:09:18 PM
Quote from: Goknights2017 on April 16, 2019, 03:59:57 PM
I will take Shymanski, DeWitt, DeVries, Bos, and Meulenberg in the Calvin league.

Also would be surprised if Gamm averages a double double especially with Granger in the lineup.

I'm a little surprised none of those 5 has transferred yet.



Can't tell if that's sarcasm. DeVries and Bos are going to be Seniors. DeWitt will be a junior eligibility wise and a senior academically. Shymansky will be a junior. The only one who academically makes some sense to transfer is Meulenberg. However, these are all "Calvin" guys who come from Calvin feeder schools. I would be shocked if they left. Looking forward to what they can do next year.

Who's this Hudsonville kid everyone's talking about?

Bigger kid from Hud Tri Unity title team. 6-5 ish.

Not Tri-Unity, just Unity :)

https://www.mlive.com/community/2018/12/unity-christians-tj-vankoevering-generating-college-offers-for-both-football-and-basketball.html
Let's go Dutchmen!

2015-2016 1-&-Done Tournament Fantasy League Co-Champion

almcguirejr

Quote from: HupHolland on April 16, 2019, 08:25:30 PM
Quote from: HupHolland on April 16, 2019, 06:20:27 PM
Hope recruiting just got a little better today...
https://twitter.com/coachmitch44/status/1118283472970371073?s=21

If you are able to figure out Coach Mitch's tweet ;D

Does the blue anchor at the end of the tweet hint a Sailor could be next?

HOPEful

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Quote from: almcguirejr on April 17, 2019, 09:37:35 AM
Quote from: HupHolland on April 16, 2019, 08:25:30 PM
Quote from: HupHolland on April 16, 2019, 06:20:27 PM
Hope recruiting just got a little better today...
https://twitter.com/coachmitch44/status/1118283472970371073?s=21

If you are able to figure out Coach Mitch's tweet ;D

Does the blue anchor at the end of the tweet hint a Sailor could be next?
Pretty sure it is meant to be the Hope anchor. I don't believe Hope has shown any interest in either Peyton Vis or Connor Kok.
Let's go Dutchmen!

2015-2016 1-&-Done Tournament Fantasy League Co-Champion

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