MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[DrDutchman]

Picking up on something sac tweeted, it's rather bizarre the Holland Sentinel did not even mention the Riley Lewis situation at all in its story on the game last night -- https://www.hollandsentinel.com/news/20191227/granger-scores-27-hope-outlasts-westminster.  Lewis started Hope's first 7 games, and played in all 9 before last night.  Wouldn't you have to say something in the article?

Also seems odd Lewis has been removed from all of the season stats - https://athletics.hope.edu/sports/mbkb/2019-20/teams/hope. Doesn't that mess up all of the season totals, etc?

honestly, the Sentinel probably didn't even notice

[DrDutchman]

From my son who shared this with me... Riley Lewis has posted an interesting photo on Instagram. For those that do that kind of stuff (im too old) here is the link
https://www.instagram.com/p/B6oAsnFjEYB/

I will c/p his caption...

"I always told myself I wouldn't let them take me for my soul. It finally got to be too much, and I had to make a tough decision. I felt disrespected not only as a basketball player but as a man, constantly being told to get away from "the way I was raised" and such. I want to thank my teammates first for ALWAYS supporting me, they know if they ever need anything I'll be here, always. I want to thank the fans and everybody who has showed me love throughout my career. It was a hell of a journey and I'll always ride with the people that have been riding with me! 22 signing off..."

[oldknight]

Picking up on something sac tweeted, it's rather bizarre the Holland Sentinel did not even mention the Riley Lewis situation at all in its story on the game last night -- https://www.hollandsentinel.com/news/20191227/granger-scores-27-hope-outlasts-westminster.  Lewis started Hope's first 7 games, and played in all 9 before last night.  Wouldn't you have to say something in the article?

Actually, there are high school newspapers that could scoop the Sentinel without breaking a sweat.

[sac]

Picking up on something sac tweeted, it's rather bizarre the Holland Sentinel did not even mention the Riley Lewis situation at all in its story on the game last night -- https://www.hollandsentinel.com/news/20191227/granger-scores-27-hope-outlasts-westminster.  Lewis started Hope's first 7 games, and played in all 9 before last night.  Wouldn't you have to say something in the article?

Also seems odd Lewis has been removed from all of the season stats - https://athletics.hope.edu/sports/mbkb/2019-20/teams/hope. Doesn't that mess up all of the season totals, etc?

Yes it does

Reminds me the purges during Stalin's run.

I've had the conversation about removing stats twice with SID's, its standard practice for some reason and its really annoying. 

[scottiedawg]

That's so weird.

Makes sense for the roster, which is like a balance sheet, a snapshot in time.

Stats are more like a cash flow statement. You can't ignore that cash flows occurred.

[sac]

Illinois Tech 72  Hope 58 F

Tech played a great game, Hope was miserable.

Zandstra 10, Granger 10. 


Not a great way to head into the conference season.  They were bad today.

[Gregory Sager]

Picking up on something sac tweeted, it's rather bizarre the Holland Sentinel did not even mention the Riley Lewis situation at all in its story on the game last night -- https://www.hollandsentinel.com/news/20191227/granger-scores-27-hope-outlasts-westminster.  Lewis started Hope's first 7 games, and played in all 9 before last night.  Wouldn't you have to say something in the article?

Not necessarily. Small-market newspapers that cover a local college are notorious for filtering out non-positive elements of their coverage of that local college's sports. There was an interesting recent post about this phenomenon in the MIAC football room from a journalist who began his career as a stringer for small-town Minnesota newspapers. The idea is that you don't want to alienate readers over something as minor as a local college sports factoid. That's particularly true nowadays, since all print media -- especially small-market newspapers -- are struggling, especially since print media is always constrained by the amount of available column inches, anyway.

I read a lot of online links to D3 coverage from local papers, and I see them use this type of editorial slant all the time. Usually it means saying next to nothing about the local college's opponent, even if that opponent has done something significant, but sometimes, as in this case, it means silence about some non-positive aspect of the local college's team itself. Of course, not every writer or editor draws the line in the same place between journalistic thoroughness and the need to avoid losing the paying readership over something perceived as being minor, with regard to what he or she will allow in a story.

It's an interesting phenomenon in terms of D3 media coverage ... well, maybe it's just interesting to people who spend way too much time looking at how D3 sports get covered outside of the d3sports.com collective.

Also seems odd Lewis has been removed from all of the season stats - https://athletics.hope.edu/sports/mbkb/2019-20/teams/hope. Doesn't that mess up all of the season totals, etc?

Now, that is surprising. It's pretty common for student-athletes to leave a team in mid-season in D3, but you don't tend to see a player who has been removed from the roster also get removed from the stats. As you said, doing so throws the stats off-kilter.

[KnightSlappy]

I believe the official NCAA stats will retain his numbers.

http://stats.ncaa.org/team/286/stats/15061

[HopeConvert]

Reminds me the purges during Stalin's run.

Good lord. My nominee for stupidest comment ever.

[arena]

 

Reminds me the purges during Stalin's run.

Good lord. My nominee for stupidest comment ever.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Reminds me the purges during Stalin's run.

Good lord. My nominee for stupidest comment ever.

Actually, deleting all the former players' stats IS very reminiscent of Politbureau practices (especially under Stalin), where people who had fallen out of favor were air-brushed out of photos.  Arena's comment was right on the money (even if the stakes are somewhat different).

[HopeConvert]

Reminds me the purges during Stalin's run.

Good lord. My nominee for stupidest comment ever.

Actually, deleting all the former players' stats IS very reminiscent of Politbureau practices (especially under Stalin), where people who had fallen out of favor were air-brushed out of photos.  Arena's comment was right on the money (even if the stakes are somewhat different).

Second place.

[almcguirejr]

Picking up on something sac tweeted, it's rather bizarre the Holland Sentinel did not even mention the Riley Lewis situation at all in its story on the game last night -- https://www.hollandsentinel.com/news/20191227/granger-scores-27-hope-outlasts-westminster.  Lewis started Hope's first 7 games, and played in all 9 before last night.  Wouldn't you have to say something in the article?

Also seems odd Lewis has been removed from all of the season stats - https://athletics.hope.edu/sports/mbkb/2019-20/teams/hope. Doesn't that mess up all of the season totals, etc?

Riley Lewis wasn't mentioned in the Holland Sentinel story today either:

https://www.hollandsentinel.com/news/20191228/hope-men-fall-to-illinois-tech

I was at DeVos Fieldhouse both days.  Olivet played poorly last night and came back today with a well played game.   Shawn Pardee had 25.  Chris Martin, Eddie Thigpen and freshman Noah Wiswary each had 14. 

[HoopsCoach]

Lewis' instagram (and facebook) posts tell his story and frankly no matter how mad he is, are not a good look. He was never himself this season and his post makes me wonder why he never left before? It's hard to go back across a burned bridge.

As for Hope today. If you deep dive the stats, things could have been a lot different if the MIAAs best shooting team didn't have an absolute klunker of a day. Thomas and Granger were 3-23 I believe from the field. Some of that was Tech being imposing inside but a lot of it was self inflicted. Why? Not sure. But it also didn't help that Honer is likely gone for the season with a knee. Big blow to a team already down a few on the roster and now two to injury. Speaking of which, feel like Gamm's body type would have been much needed in this one. Hearing he should be back for the MIAA opener.

Speaking of bad games... #6 Marietta lost to a 4-8 team today as well. Sometimes that's how the ball bounces and what makes this game so maddeningly great!

[Jameswys]

To me, it doesn't matter if his posts only tell his side or not. He clearly didn't like what was being expected of him and he chose to move on. To my way of thinking, it's a very adult decision. Especially since he's paying for school, as all D3 athletes have to do. One of Olivet's top Tailbacks from last years football team also made the choice to leave the program. Why? I don't know, these could be similar circumstances, or not. But I totally respect Riley (and the Olivet athlete too) for putting themselves first.