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MIdoubleA

I doubt Glenn will start 3 gaurds. I see DVS at the 1, Cramer at the 2, and Reimink, Vanderheide and Richardson at 3,4,5.

oldknight

Quote from: MIdoubleA on April 26, 2006, 06:52:17 PM
I doubt Glenn will start 3 gaurds. I see DVS at the 1, Cramer at the 2, and Reimink, Vanderheide and Richardson at 3,4,5.

I agree; right now that lineup makes the most sense to me.

wolverinekeith

Reimink?  Really?  I'd bet on Partridge, but maybe you're closer to Hope than I am. 

I figure Kratz will play a LOT too. 

MeyeAA

Quote from: Shareef23 on April 26, 2006, 05:27:18 PM
Unless, Calvin gets another kid in, I bet Veltema starts. He is better than Draayer right now. He is faster and thus will have a much easier time getting his shot off. He is much tougher to defend, because of this. That is some back court right there. I wouldn't mind hearing, Veldhouse and Veltema, for the next 3 years. Has a nice ring to it, eh?

Yes, Veltma is very good, but to say he is better right now than the guy who set the all-time 3 point record at Calvin? Easy with your words there. It's scary to think what Draayer would do against a bunch of high schoolers. The next few years should be interesting, but nothing is ever handed to anyone as proved with Calvin stealing a conference title from Hope this year. The select bank classic can't come soon enough.

MIdoubleA

Quote from: wolverinekeith on April 26, 2006, 08:44:05 PM
Reimink?  Really?  I'd bet on Partridge

Late in the year Reimink really showed some hustle on both ends of the floor. He also has better shot selection than Partridge, in my opinion. But hey, either way you have a solid backup.

Quote from: wolverinekeith on April 26, 2006, 08:44:05 PM
but maybe you're closer to Hope than I am.

That I am  :D

Quote from: wolverinekeith on April 26, 2006, 08:44:05 PM
I figure Kratz will play a LOT too.

Who is Kratz? I could have missed this guy as a recruit... I was afk for about 3 weeks.

Shareef23

Eye,
   I understand your point. But Draayer was extremly limited his senior when teams could key on him. Veltema is a better all around player right now. I won't back off from it. I can't wait to see him prove me right.  ;D

I totally forgot about Reimink. There's no doubt he'll start. He's a tough kid and a great athlete. Wow, this is going to be a heck of a year. I'm pumped already.
"I started to look around at the fans and the team and I was sitting in the back, and I looked around and everybody was having a good time and that day, it truly made me realize what Michigan was about. It took me down, it humbled me. It taught me how to be a Michigan man instead of Jason Avant."

wolverinekeith

QuoteWho is Kratz? I could have missed this guy as a recruit... I was afk for about 3 weeks.

Stephen Kratz...6'6" forward from Ludington.  Will be a freshman next year.

From SBell's site:

QuoteYour basic do-it-all forward. He can post up, run the break or hit the three-pointer. Tough kid whose effort you don't have to question.

(Sorry Steve, I can't figure out how to link to your site cleanly...I wish everyone would just use HTML coding...I hate whatever coding system this site uses.)

almcguirejr

Quote from: Shareef23 on April 26, 2006, 05:27:18 PM
Unless, Calvin gets another kid in, I bet Veltema starts. He is better than Draayer right now. He is faster and thus will have a much easier time getting his shot off. He is much tougher to defend, because of this. That is some back court right there. I wouldn't mind hearing, Veldhouse and Veltema, for the next 3 years. Has a nice ring to it, eh?

Matt Veltema is not a better player than Andy Draayer right now.  That is unfair to both
players.  Veltema may have the potential to be better but he does not have the toughness that Draayer had at this point in his career. He is also not the shooter that Draayer is at this point in time.  If Veltema can contribute 15 minutes a game as a freshman I think that would be excellent for him.  To go from the OK Silver to the MIAA will take an adjustment period. For Veltema or any of the other freshmen to get significant playing time, they will have to prove they can defend.

KnightSlappy

Quote from: almcguirejr on April 27, 2006, 08:52:54 AM
For Veltema or any of the other freshmen to get significant playing time, they will have to prove they can defend.
Many of these kids coming in may have size and raw talent but in order to play valuable minutes for KVS you need to play good defense.  It will be interesting to see how Streeker incorporates another batch of diaper dandies into the roster and how he utilizes them.

Civic Minded

Quote from: wolverinekeith on April 26, 2006, 08:44:05 PM
Reimink?  Really?  I'd bet on Partridge, but maybe you're closer to Hope than I am. 

I figure Kratz will play a LOT too. 

What are ya, this kid's dad or something?   ;D

Tough call between Reimink and Partridge; each brings something different to the floor.  Reimink has more bulk and can muscle his way inside; Partridge, in my opinion, has a great deal of finesse and can be a great shooter.  I wish GVW had given him more of a chance this year -- I feel he has a great deal of talent that wasn't put to it's best use.  But hey, I don't know what went on in practices (much), so what can I really say.  I do like to watch the kid play though.

I expect that Dan Holt will come along nicely as well.  He really made some big strides from his freshman to sophomore year, and he's got a great touch with the ball.  I see potential in him.  It will be interesting to see how he develops...
2014 MIAA Pick 'Em Champion  :)

realist

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Al:jr.  et al:  remember the fall of 99.  A player from little Tri- Unity at point, and a Red haired kid from KC see starts early in the year, not to mention Veldhouse this past year.  So big school or small school if the kid has talent KVS will play him.  It took B Foultice a while to figure out defense was as important as KVS said it was.  Frankly based on size etc. I see this years team looking strikingly similar to 99-00.  It looks like it could go 10 or 11 deep very easily.  Not many teams will be able to handle wave after wave coming in.  
"If you are catching flack it means you are over the target".  Brietbart.

sac

I have Reimink penciled in as Hope's #6 man, I think much will depend on who shows up on campus next September.

But, there is definately room for Jesse in the starting 5.

Wolfe is a shooter not a point gaurd.  VanSolkema has that spot sealed up,  The backup will come from either an improvement in Jager or someone from the JV moving up.

Hope had a nice recruit from Colorado who would have been nice to surprise on the MIAA at the point, but he took a scholarship.

With the downturn in the Real Estate market, maybe Hoogeboom would like to come back and finish that degree.  ;D ;)




Quote from: almcguirejr on April 27, 2006, 08:52:54 AM
 If Veltema can contribute 15 minutes a game as a freshman I think that would be excellent for him.  To go from the OK Silver to the MIAA will take an adjustment period.

Excellent point, it was a decade ago but Joel Holstege came from the same level in HS and he played around 15 minutes a game his Freshman year.

MIdoubleA

Quote from: sac on April 27, 2006, 04:03:22 PM
I think much will depend on who shows up on campus next September.
Good point, things always seem to look different in September.

Who are your starting 5 then, Sac?

Also, for you fellow dutch-enthusiasts, what do you think about Evan Hare? I am pretty much not planning on him being there, that way I'm pleasantly suprised if he does.

If he does come back to play, does Richardson start at the 4/5 or will he be on the bench to play backup for the 4th year in a row? Lots of questions...

Civic Minded

Quote from: MIdoubleA on April 27, 2006, 08:09:10 PM
Quote from: sac on April 27, 2006, 04:03:22 PM
I think much will depend on who shows up on campus next September.
Good point, things always seem to look different in September.

Who are your starting 5 then, Sac?

Also, for you fellow dutch-enthusiasts, what do you think about Evan Hare? I am pretty much not planning on him being there, that way I'm pleasantly suprised if he does.

If he does come back to play, does Richardson start at the 4/5 or will he be on the bench to play backup for the 4th year in a row? Lots of questions...

I'm with you about Evan...I just don't know if he'll be able to return, but would love to see it happen.  I'll wait with you in the "pleasantly surprised" camp.  I think Rich gets the starting nod either way though.  He's shown he's ready for that spot, in my opinion.  Others?
2014 MIAA Pick 'Em Champion  :)

matblake

Quote from: Hoops Fan on April 28, 2006, 09:39:53 AM

The committee passed some additions to the in-region rule, which will take effect this fall.  IN addition to the current in-region criteria, games against teams from the same NCAA-defined geographic region will also count as in-region games.

Regions are:

(a) Region 1 - Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Vermont; (Revised: 1/12/99)

(b) Region 2 - New York, Pennsylvania,; (Revised: 1/12/99)

(c) Region 3 - Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, North Carolina, Ohio, Puerto Rico, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia; and (Revised: 1/12/99)

(d) Region 4 - Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, Washington, Wisconsin, Wyoming.

Hoops Fan posted this over on the CCIW site. Looks like the MIAA will continue to deal with the same issues as usual for playing in-region games.  Looks like its time to take some winter break trips to the southeast.