MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[northb]

April,

I hope you are still reading this, and hope you will return!

IBID

Me too, I've always found your comments helpful.  Although you are clsoe enough (geographically, philosophically, ecumenically) to understand the whole Calvin-Hope thing, you are outside The Rivalry, and can often give us good feedback.  You have forgotten more basketball than most of us will ever know. Come back!

[northb]

Dear D3hoops.com posters

Well it took alot of hardwork, but I finally did it.  I got that blowhard SAC's karma down to zero.  It was pretty hard to log on every day for the entire summer but I managed.  The hardest days were those days when his posts were buried deep within the MIAA forum.  Fortunately he poked his head out a few times like a turtle, and I took advantage and knocked his karma down.  Doesn't even matter what he said.

Some people probably think its pretty sad, but I believe its my mission in life to keep those Hope nutjobs down.  Giving them negative karma is a perfect way to do it because they obviously quit postomg when I give them negative karma.

Its even more fun to just knock everyone's karma down who doesn't think Calvin is totatlly awesome.  Because thats what they are awesome.

Gosh it makes me feel so powerful, like I control the world.  I'm thinking about writing a book report on the whole experience for my 6th grade class.  Everyone will be pretty proud of me at the new Vandestreek Elementary School that opened this year.  Its awesome.  Nobody wonders what KVSWD because we all know.  He'd give negative karma for anyone who doesn't think Calvin is awesome.  Because thats what they are, awesome.

Well mom says I have to go, but I'll be back to knock some more karma down.

Signed,

Annonymous poster hiding behind my handle and never posting so no one can guess who I am.


Seriously, can the karma wars stop.

C'mom leave SAC alone.  He's a good guy (for a Hope fan) and a credit to this board.

[Gregory Sager]

I didn't like the joke (I'd sorta like to keep the board PG) but I gave you karma just so you would have to change your name. 

If you don't get it I guess we shouldn't repeat the related joke that made the rounds at Calvin for years, if not generations. In deference to your desire to keep this board PG I'll only provide the punchline.

Why doesn't . . . ?

Because it might lead to dancing.

That's obviously one of those "fill in the blank for the school's name" jokes, because we Parkers used to make that exact same joke about Wheaton.

Gooood Karma, you should go back to your old name just for the coolness quotient. Warren Zevon recorded a great song called "Bad Karma".

[Gregory Sager]

Dear D3hoops.com posters

Well it took alot of hardwork, but I finally did it.  I got that blowhard SAC's karma down to zero. 

Been there, been through that. I feel your pain, brother HOFer.

I think it stinks that people dish out smites out of rivalry-motivated spite rather than out of genuine disagreement with the content of a post, but the unfortunate truth is that those of you who root for either of those two schools in western Michigan are always going to be more susceptible to this sort of thing than most.

I don't think April's going anywhere. But I sure as heck wish that people would leave her alone and deal with her as just another poster rather than as a female. It poisons the well of Posting Up when a female poster has to put up with boorish behavior or unwanted advances from a male poster.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

I don't think April's going anywhere. But I sure as heck wish that people would leave her alone and deal with her as just another poster rather than as a female. It poisons the well of Posting Up when a female poster has to put up with boorish behavior or unwanted advances from a male poster.

I hear where you're coming from Greg, and I have a great appreciation for all of the basketball knowledge that April brings to this place.  I'm sure I would also appreciate trying some of her world famous cookies one of these days, but (and there's always a but) you can't have it both ways.

Yes, it would be great if those rude, PG-13 or worse topics were never discussed here (which would be my preference as well), but the fact of the matter is that this (a sports conversation board) is a male dominated place.  That means it is going to resemble a locker room at times or worse. 

Anyone who wants to join in and post is welcome to do so, but I believe they must do so with the understanding that this place is what it is, and it shouldn't be required to change just to suite a few posters.  I don't think any of these posts were directed at April.  Should that happen to her (or any other women poster) I would be the first to thrash the offender (with the written word of course).

In my mind it's similar to when female reporters started covering sports, and then started doing interviews in the locker rooms.  A locker room's purpose is to provide a place for the players to change their clothes and take a shower.  When the women started coming in to do interviews, are the players suddenly not allowed to do those things?  Of course not, the women reporters know what goes on in there, and what they will have to face.  Granted, the players also may modify their behavior some (to avoid embarrassment) but nonetheless, they will still change their clothes and take a shower.

[Gregory Sager]

Oh, I agree with everything you say, FDF. The more active football and men's basketball boards will always have a "boys will be boys" vibe to them, and it's unrealistic to think that that will change. People will not go out of their way to step lively in here just because of the presence of females -- and I think that if we did lose such candor it would also detract from the atmosphere of cameraderie and the feeling that people can really say what they think (within reason, of course).

I don't want to see Posting Up turn into the online version of Maxim, but I'm no bluenose, either. April and I don't agree 100% on where to draw that line. I'm definitely more laissez-faire about it than her. Which is OK, because I respect her opinion and she respects mine.

But right now April is having some difficulty with inappropriate contact from at least one poster on these forums, and that's the matter I was addressing. This bothers me, and not just because April is my friend. The issue of any female poster receiving unwanted attention from a male poster or posters is something that concerns me greatly.

[GoKnights68]

I'd be the number 1 suspect I bet in  Sac's "WHO THE **** GAVE ME NEGATIVE KARMA!?" but I don't have enough posts to give negative karma 

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Oh, I agree with everything you say, FDF. The more active football and men's basketball boards will always have a "boys will be boys" vibe to them, and it's unrealistic to think that that will change. People will not go out of their way to step lively in here just because of the presence of females -- and I think that if we did lose such candor it would also detract from the atmosphere of cameraderie and the feeling that people can really say what they think (within reason, of course).

I don't want to see Posting Up turn into the online version of Maxim, but I'm no bluenose, either. April and I don't agree 100% on where to draw that line. I'm definitely more laissez-faire about it than her. Which is OK, because I respect her opinion and she respects mine.

But right now April is having some difficulty with inappropriate contact from at least one poster on these forums, and that's the matter I was addressing. This bothers me, and not just because April is my friend. The issue of any female poster receiving unwanted attention from a male poster or posters is something that concerns me greatly.

Greg - thanks for your reply - I'm glad we are in agreement.  And your concern is my concern - is/can anything being done to correct this situation?

[KnightSlappy]

Lets talk about how the MIAA makes us feel.

[Civic Minded]

Lets talk about how the MIAA makes us feel.

Good grief, let's not.  I know of at least one woman ( ) who doesn't think the discussion around here lately has been even PG; in fact, it's been rather cleverly funny in most cases (and just in fun in most others).  Now, if April is having some specific issues with a jerk around here, that needs to stop (sorry, I don't have enough time to read every thread, even at this time of year).  But let's trust Pat and the gang to eliminate the truly obscene without feeling we have to censor every though for any women or sensitive others who may be reading...   Moderated boards are a slippery enough slope the way it is.

JMHO,

Civic

[almcguirejr]

Lets talk about how the MIAA makes us feel.

Right now I feel like I need to hear Bill Murray singing "Feelings"

[NW Hope Fan]

Lets talk about how the MIAA makes us feel.

Right now I feel like I need to hear Bill Murray singing "Feelings"

The best I could do:
http://www.saborosamidis.com.br/midis/internacionais1/feelings.mid

[sac]

Seems my littel attempt at levity got lost in a see of........something.  At least I had a good laugh about it.

PS The MIAA makes me feel awesome.


PS II  If your going North to observe our fine foliage this weekend, its a little past ripe north of M-72/East of US 131.  A little brownish.  Seems last weekends rain did a number on the vibrancy of autumn.  Very nice from Cadillac to around Mancelona.   South of Cadillac about 5 days away.    Along the lakeshore..........what fall?

PS3  672 miles in one day.......its a big state!

[sac]

I'd be the number 1 suspect I bet in  Sac's "WHO THE **** GAVE ME NEGATIVE KARMA!?" but I don't have enough posts to give negative karma 

Your not even on my radar, truthfully I don't care who.......I just thought it was amazingly childish.   Hence the note written from a 6th graders point of view.


Instead of the predictable football joke............Maybe I should have asked you if your obcession with Hope's long shorts was because your tired of watching Calvin players constantly pulling theirs off their waist so they look longer..........and cooler? 
 

[David Collinge]

PS II  If your going North to observe our fine foliage this weekend, its a little past ripe north of M-72/East of US 131.  A little brownish.  Seems last weekends rain did a number on the vibrancy of autumn.  Very nice from Cadillac to around Mancelona.   South of Cadillac about 5 days away.    Along the lakeshore..........what fall?

PS3  672 miles in one day.......its a big state!

I was in the UP the past two days, and it's beautiful, even if I've missed the fall color peak. 

PS About 11,500 miles in the past 54 days...it's an even bigger country!