MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[sac]

  Once they start playing, it doesn't matter if it's basketball, tiddly winks, or rock/paper/scissors- this is Hope/Calvin and it will be awesome.

One of the best quotes ever, I may steal that one for my signature.

[oldknight]

Griffen is a terrific pickup for Knights (shockingly a transfer)

But not midseason! 

Just doesn't seem right that I just finished mowing the lawn, and later in the same day I'm going to a Hope/Calvin game. 

Took the words right out of my mouth FDF.   8)

[Gregory Sager]

so strange for them (Calvin and Hope) to meet pre-season!  wish I could be there -- should be a doozy!

First time they've ever met in this tournament, not sure about other preseason tournaments or games.

It's not a preseason game, people. It's a regular season game.

Series is Calvin 81 Hope 80 with just 22 points separating the two teams.

If I remember correctly, Hope is the school with the 22-point all-time advantage in spite of being down a game to Calvin, right?

[GoKnights68]

If I remember correctly, Hope is the school with the 22-point all-time advantage in spite of being down a game to Calvin, right?


That is correct.

[NW Hope Fan]

28-19 Hope w/ 8:25 in the first half. Griffin is keeping the knights in the game w/ several 3's

[NW Hope Fan]

46-32 Half
Griffin w/ 5 3's
DVS killer for Hope

[dren]

Its been Hope vs Derek Griffin the first half.

Hope 46,  Calvin 32 half

Griffin is leading all scorers with 18.

Derek Van Solkema has 16, Marcus Vanderheide has 12, and Steve Cramer has 12

[admittedlydutch]

DVS coming up huge for Hope tonight -- how about Vanderheide as well?  Awesome (knock on wood).

[dren]

The VanAndel Bank Dejour is a pretty accurate meter on how the Dutchmen season will progress.  Of the three times they've been the tournament champs, they've finished 26-5, 23-5, 28-3.

Hope in the Van Andel tourney 11-9

1996-97 (26-3)
Aquinas 79, Hope 70 (A)
Hope 76, Cornerstone 73 (A)

1997-98 (26-5)
Hope 84, Cornerstone 81 (A)
Hope 77, Grand Valley 68 (A)

1998-99 (15-11)
Grand Valley 82, Hope 73 (A)
Cornerstone 98, Hope 80 (A)

1999-2000 (15-11)
Aquinas 90, Hope 82 (A)
Grand Valley 76, Hope 75 (A)

2000-01 (16-10)
Cornerstone 89, Hope 83 (A)
Hope 99, Aquinas 82 (A)

2001-02 (21-9)
Hope sits out of tourney

2002-03 (23-5)
Hope 80, Cornerstone University 69 (A)
Hope 103, Grand Valley 80 (A)

2003-04 (21-5)
Grand Valley 71, Hope 58 (A)
Cornerstone University 75, Hope 71 (A)

2004-05 (15-12)
Cornerstone 79, Hope 73 (A)
Hope 67, Aquinas 52 (A)

2005-06 (28-3)
Hope 67, Aquinas 66 (A)
Hope 79, Cornerstone 59 (A)

2006-07 (?-?)

Hope 80, Cornerstone 76
Hope 76, Calvin 54

[gohope]

Hello.... couldn't get to the game.  Get home people.  I need details!

p.s. Sac - can't you do Mario Andretti and  the Internet at the same time???

[GoKnights68]

The Calvin team better be prepared to run in Monday's practice.

[oldknight]

Some random thoughts on tonight's debacle at Knollcrest.

I heard several people around me remark on how much better Hope shot than did Calvin. That remark completely ignores the main reason why Hope shot better--Hope either passed the ball inside or did some nice dribble penetration which either led to a shot close to the basket or caused defensive help. When the help came Hope kicked it out to a shooter who was spotted up. It's amazing how much easier a 3 pointer is when you have the time to step into the shot as did Hope for most of the night. By contrast, Calvin was limited to passing the ball around the perimeter for most of the shot clock. They rarely passed the ball to an interior player and, for the first half, never did any dribble penetration. The quality of Calvin's shots were far poorer than was Hope's selection.

Hope is an excellent defensive team. A lot of Calvin's problems were caused by the fact that Hope worked hard to keep the post players from establishing low post position. But their perimeter defense was also outstanding and Calvin never got into any offensive comfort zone because of that. The Knights did try in the second half--with some success--to get the ball inside but Hope already had well established the pace of flow of the game by then. Hope also killed Calvin on the boards.

VanSolkema completely outplayed Veldhouse. I think anyone at the game recognized it as easily the worst performance in Veldhouse's career. Caleb hardly played at all in the second half and rightly so.

Zoerhof is in the process of playing himself out of a starting job. He seemed lost all night and contributed nothing on either end of the floor. The door is opening for both Chappell and Veltema to get more minutes if they perform well.

It's pretty apparent Zach Osburn was strictly a football player at NIU (is that where he went?). He didn't play many minutes but he got 3 quick fouls along with doing some rugged rebounding. He was a one man wrecking crew tonight.

[hope1]

good   job  hope tonight way to beat  calvin   

[gohope]

Just watched FOX17 sports - FDF, CM and SAC - SMILE, you were on the clip!

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Hope 76
Calvin 52

Absolutely awesome defensive display by the Dutchmen tonight.  Calvin looked like the deer in the headlights all night.  I'm sure the three previous games the Knights have played had defense no where near what they saw tonight.  I also know that the Knights had a really rough night

Hope is an extremely athletic team with a lot of interchangable parts.  Still sad to see Partridge go down early with a high ankle sprain - suspect he'll be back in a week or so.  

Loved the rebounding from a multitude of Hope players tonight, and they just "out efforted" Calvin.

Caleb looked like a freshman for the first time in his life, despite being a sophomore.

I'm sure we will be in for some epic battles when these teams meet again later this season.

Mr. Sager - around here we call them pre-season - you can call them whatever you want.