MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[realist]

FWIW:  A comparison of personal fouls stats. and players fouling out show Calvin the fewest in the MIAA.  347 personal fouls, and 3 people fouled out.
Adrian fouls 362 FO's 4
Kalamazoo 365 FO's 3
Alma  372        FO's 7
Olivet 402      FO's 7
Hope 417      FO's 4
Albion  422   FO';s 7
Trine    427  FO's 10
Player comparison
Reimink Hope 60 fouls, and has not fouled out.  He has shot 149 FT's making 119.
Mantel  Calvin 47 fouls, and has fouled out once.  He has shot 102 FT's making 72.

[HopeConvert]

FWIW:  A comparison of personal fouls stats. and players fouling out show Calvin the fewest in the MIAA.  347 personal fouls, and 3 people fouled out.
Adrian fouls 362 FO's 4
Kalamazoo 365 FO's 3
Alma  372        FO's 7
Olivet 402      FO's 7
Hope 417      FO's 4
Albion  422   FO';s 7
Trine    427  FO's 10
Player comparison
Reimink Hope 60 fouls, and has not fouled out.  He has shot 149 FT's making 119.
Mantel  Calvin 47 fouls, and has fouled out once.  He has shot 102 FT's making 72.

Wow - I knew the reffing was bad. Didn't know it was that bad.

[goodknight]

The move is a stiff-armed "clothesline" across the throat of the opposing player, and in no way seems "accidental." 

Written, spoken, or delivered with smoke signals, there is only one interpretation of that statement. 

Ohhhhh, al....let me help.  I do think he's putting his arm there intentionally (I do not think it just happened as a result of positioning to get the ball, etc.).  I do not think he is trying to hurt anyone, but to stop them.  I am concerned, however, that it may result in someone getting hurt. 

I agree with scottiedawg that it probably is an issue of his height.  At the risk of further misinterpretation, I'll let it go.  I'm sorry this seems so complicated or evilly intended.  I guess I forgot what to expect.  Silly me.

Plus k for vowing to let it go.

[ChicagoHopeNut]

FWIW:  A comparison of personal fouls stats. and players fouling out show Calvin the fewest in the MIAA.  347 personal fouls, and 3 people fouled out.
Adrian fouls 362 FO's 4
Kalamazoo 365 FO's 3
Alma  372        FO's 7
Olivet 402      FO's 7
Hope 417      FO's 4
Albion  422   FO';s 7
Trine    427  FO's 10
Player comparison
Reimink Hope 60 fouls, and has not fouled out.  He has shot 149 FT's making 119.
Mantel  Calvin 47 fouls, and has fouled out once.  He has shot 102 FT's making 72.

Disclaimer: This is not a value judgment on any person affiliated with Calvin College, Suge Knight (rapper or mascot), or the East Beltline.

Now that that's out of the way I think its pretty incredible that Mantel has only 47 fouls!!! I have only seen Calvin play once so this really looking from afar. But for a 5 to play as many minutes as Mantel and have that few fouls is rather amazing. What does this mean? Any number of things. I could give my opinion but I don't think its the one that would make the most people mad so I am just going to keep it to myself so everyone can guess what I meant and that way you can all find a reason to be upset if you try hard enough (yes, I am kidding!)

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Interesting decision announced by Holland Christian officials today.  No more Maroon's games at the DeVos

http://www.hollandsentinel.com/sports/x82778264/HC-hoops-will-return-to-Civic-Center

[Flying Dutch Fan]

FWIW:  A comparison of personal fouls stats. and players fouling out show Calvin the fewest in the MIAA.  347 personal fouls, and 3 people fouled out.
Adrian fouls 362 FO's 4
Kalamazoo 365 FO's 3
Alma  372        FO's 7
Olivet 402      FO's 7
Hope 417      FO's 4
Albion  422   FO';s 7
Trine    427  FO's 10
Player comparison
Reimink Hope 60 fouls, and has not fouled out.  He has shot 149 FT's making 119.
Mantel  Calvin 47 fouls, and has fouled out once.  He has shot 102 FT's making 72.

Disclaimer: This is not a value judgment on any person affiliated with Calvin College, Suge Knight (rapper or mascot), or the East Beltline.

Now that that's out of the way I think its pretty incredible that Mantel has only 47 fouls!!! I have only seen Calvin play once so this really looking from afar. But for a 5 to play as many minutes as Mantel and have that few fouls is rather amazing. What does this mean? Any number of things. I could give my opinion but I don't think its the one that would make the most people mad so I am just going to keep it to myself so everyone can guess what I meant and that way you can all find a reason to be upset if you try hard enough (yes, I am kidding!)

I'm mad at how much you just confused me      

[realist]

Reimink has played  722 minutes, and fouled 60 times or once every 12 minutes.

Mantel has played 538 minutes, and fouled 47 times or once every 11.44 minutes.

[realist]

Interesting decision announced by Holland Christian officials today.  No more Maroon's games at the DeVos

http://www.hollandsentinel.com/sports/x82778264/HC-hoops-will-return-to-Civic-Center

I agree.  However, from reading the article it seems like everyone is parting friends.  Is the city or HCHS going to spend some $$ sprucing the Civic up?

[oldknight]

FWIW:  A comparison of personal fouls stats. and players fouling out show Calvin the fewest in the MIAA.  347 personal fouls, and 3 people fouled out.
Adrian fouls 362 FO's 4
Kalamazoo 365 FO's 3
Alma  372        FO's 7
Olivet 402      FO's 7
Hope 417      FO's 4
Albion  422   FO';s 7
Trine    427  FO's 10
Player comparison
Reimink Hope 60 fouls, and has not fouled out.  He has shot 149 FT's making 119.
Mantel  Calvin 47 fouls, and has fouled out once.  He has shot 102 FT's making 72.

Disclaimer: This is not a value judgment on any person affiliated with Calvin College, Suge Knight (rapper or mascot), or the East Beltline.

Now that that's out of the way I think its pretty incredible that Mantel has only 47 fouls!!! I have only seen Calvin play once so this really looking from afar. But for a 5 to play as many minutes as Mantel and have that few fouls is rather amazing. What does this mean? Any number of things. I could give my opinion but I don't think its the one that would make the most people mad so I am just going to keep it to myself so everyone can guess what I meant and that way you can all find a reason to be upset if you try hard enough (yes, I am kidding!)

Reimink has played  722 minutes, and fouled 60 times or once every 12 minutes.

Mantel has played 538 minutes, and fouled 47 times or once every 11.44 minutes.

Reminds one of the phrase "Lies, damned lies, and statistics" doesn't it?

[wiz]

Reimink has played  722 minutes, and fouled 60 times or once every 12 minutes.

Mantel has played 538 minutes, and fouled 47 times or once every 11.44 minutes.

Then, this clearly makes Mantel the MVP.  Not such a dirty player as Reimink.

[hope1]

i think jesse will be the mvp  for the league he has avg  20  points a game for some while i dont rember mantel doing that or it might be a  tie for mvp

[eatsleepblink182]

Interesting decision announced by Holland Christian officials today.  No more Maroon's games at the DeVos

http://www.hollandsentinel.com/sports/x82778264/HC-hoops-will-return-to-Civic-Center

I agree.  However, from reading the article it seems like everyone is parting friends.  Is the city or HCHS going to spend some $$ sprucing the Civic up?

"We have started down the road of renovating the high school building and campus. We think within the next five years or so we need to do something on our campus."
Declining attendance made continuing playing at DeVos Fieldhouse not financially feasible for Holland Christian, even though the cost of playing there has remained the same, Vos said.

My question is this: how will it become financially feasible within the next five years or so to build a new facility altogether?

[Pat Coleman]

Admittedly not knowing much of the situation I can imagine that a facility would have to provide value to the school above and beyond hosting boys' basketball games.

[knightmoves]

MVPs help their teams win titles, not miss key shots when it counts the most. Mantel has come of age this year & has my MVP vote, although admittedly biases.

[almcguirejr]

Interesting decision announced by Holland Christian officials today.  No more Maroon's games at the DeVos

http://www.hollandsentinel.com/sports/x82778264/HC-hoops-will-return-to-Civic-Center

I agree.  However, from reading the article it seems like everyone is parting friends.  Is the city or HCHS going to spend some $$ sprucing the Civic up?

"We have started down the road of renovating the high school building and campus. We think within the next five years or so we need to do something on our campus."
Declining attendance made continuing playing at DeVos Fieldhouse not financially feasible for Holland Christian, even though the cost of playing there has remained the same, Vos said.

My question is this: how will it become financially feasible within the next five years or so to build a new facility altogether?

HC has a good sized gym.  I remember it as only having bleachers on one side.  If they installed bleachers on both sides I think they could hold 1800-2000 people in there.  They have also just completed a $30 million dollar renovation of the HS.  Right now isn't the time to have another fund drive.