MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[realist]

Nothing like a little controversy to liven things up.    

[KnightSlappy]

While I was not surprised, I wish Bud Light would do the right thing.  This would NOT be a 'slippery slope' since this particular situation may NEVER happen again!  27th 'out' of a perfect game, followed by the 28th consecutive out of a perfect game.

Actually, I wish he would do it more for Jim Joyce than for Armando.  Galarraga (and everyone else) knows he pitched a perfect game, even if it doesn't go into the record books.  I suspect more people will remember his perfect game than will remember anyone else's except Don Larson!  But poor Jim Joyce, an almost universally respected umpire, has been receiving death threats, and his wife and children have been harassed, from crazies who take these things WAY too seriously.  Bud Light has left Jim Joyce hanging out to dry.

The behavior of Joyce, and, especially, Galarraga and Leyland (who both sought out Joyce to comfort HIM!) has been an inspiration.  The behavior of Selig, not so much.

I've gone back and forth on the situation in my head all day. The argument about all the other blown calls doesn't hold any water to me. Why not judge this situation as an individual situation and not as a collective group with all past and future blown calls. This isn't a situation where runs were scored after and a different team won. This is a situation where the only thing that changes is the runner gets (correctly) called out and the guy behind him never stepped into the box.

I understand (and agree) that it could be dangerous to set a precedent for overruled calls (although no-hitters have been overturned in the past), but this isn't some willy-nilly play in the middle of the game. It was the last out and only a subsequent groundout would have to be forgotten. All that would change in this particular situation is that the game would have been called and scored correctly.

[sac]

Indirectly Selig has taken the pressure off Joyce by making himself the villen.


This was a headline from Mlive today, "Bud Selig says Armando Galarraga's bid for perfect game 'should have ended differently'"

Someone should tell Bud he's the one who can make that happen.

[sac]

 
I like Hoopdreams choice of the words amusing and laughable.  

I think most of us know whats been amusing and laughable.

[Mr. Ypsi]

BTW, in my mind, Gallarraga pitched the 23rd perfect game.

While I understand the counter-arguments, I disagree with them.  I also credit Harvey Haddix, who pitched TWELVE perfect innings in 1959 before losing in the 13th, and Ernie Shore, who in 1917 relieved Babe Ruth (thrown out for overly vigorous protest after walking the first batter), and (after the base runner was out trying to steal second) retired the next 26 batters in a row.

[Mr. Ypsi]

GM The US taxpayer is giving Armando a Corvette for his effort.

That seems a bit picky.  I dare say GM may have gotten more good will for that Corvette than would for a Super Bowl ad.  Charge it to the advertising budget, and it is one hell of a good 'ad' purchase!

[arena]

The first time I saw the replay, it appeared to me that Joyce made the right call.  It looked like the Tiger  didn't have complete control of the ball when he touched the bag.

[cmlundy]

If that was the case that Armondo juggled the ball then it should not had been a base hit it should had been E 1

[realist]

I like Hoopdreams choice of the words amusing and laughable.  

I think most of us know whats been amusing and laughable.

For me it has been some of the warts and blemishes in the Hope program being exposed.  Not to mention the very thin skin that many Hope posters seem to have.

If you dish out crap from time to time it should not surprise you when some comes back your way.  

[KnightSlappy]

I think most of us know whats been amusing and laughable.

It's good to see you can laugh at yourself, sac.

[ziggy]

For me it has been some of the warts and blemishes in the Hope program being exposed.  Not to mention the very thin skin that many Hope posters seem to have.

If you dish out crap from time to time it should not surprise you when some comes back your way.  

Careful, I am quite sure you have never actually measured the thickness of the skin of any of this board's posters. The best you can do is speculate, which is nearly as dangerous as dancing.

[ChicagoHopeNut]

At the risk of being the contrarian Hope fan. I see some very good points from some of the other posters. At some point, a potential coach has to step back and say if Hope can't make a decision and make a hire do I really want to go. Living with the cloud of whether you'll need to pick up and pack your family has to get old at some point.

I have no idea how accurate hoopdreams or anyone else's "information" is but I do feel comfortable saying that after 5 weeks Hope should have been able to make a hire.

[Happy Calvin Guy]

If that was the case that Armondo juggled the ball then it should not had been a base hit it should had been E 1

An error would still would ruin the perfect game.  He could still have the no-hitter but those are much more common than perfect games.  (266 in history vs 20 perfect games).

[Happy Calvin Guy]

Michael Fabiyi from Gary IN West Side HS is coming to Calvin next year. A 6-3 guard was being recruited by Ivy League schools such as Cornell, Penn, and Columbia.

Probably fall back options for him in case he didn't get into Calvin.

[KnightSlappy]

If that was the case that Armondo juggled the ball then it should not had been a base hit it should had been E 1

An error would still would ruin the perfect game.  He could still have the no-hitter but those are much more common than perfect games.  (266 in history vs 20 perfect games).

In the case of a juggle (which the official scorer and umpire have both said did not occur) a hit could still have been awarded in that situation (altough it's unlikely that it would have been scored a hit if a no-hitter was at stake). A close play involving the pitcher reaching behind himself while catching the ball on the move while having to find the base blind could be ruled as requiring "extraordinary effort."