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Quote from: hoopdreams on June 09, 2010, 10:33:47 AM
section 7, are you speculating?  By the way SAC, unless you were at the game Monday night and watched it firsthand, your  brief recap was...  Are you speculating that Cornerstone pulled away and that everyone was present other than Bowser?  Was that info told to you in confidence?  Some of us prefer to let nature run its course before jumping to conclusions that C-stone will be good. Summer league are not an accurate indicator of how strong a team will be during the regular season.  I seem to remember someone debating this in the past.  Can someone find that dialogue for me?

By the way, if it does come to fruition that Carlson is named Head Coach, how do you explain it?  You (SAC) confided in me via personal message about the 3 finalists Hope was interviewing, I believe before it became common knowledge to those on this board. And by know it is common knowledge who the initial 3 were.  What happened? Yes, I understand that these were "personal messages", just trying to make a point. Although I'm not even sure what the point is anymore. Suppose I could have PM'd you about this but then no one could see you calling me names.

Of course, section 7 could simply be making this up to stir the pot, maybe because I haven't made any "jerkish" statements in a few hours. Thought I was done with this but the "Holland grapevine" comment with the cute smily face was too much to pass on :-*


Two answers since you want everyting to be public.

1)  As we all probably know now the original statements circulating that Hope had a final 3, were probably not true.

2)  I confided in you before I understood that you simply can't keep anything private, or realized that you can't determine yourself what topics and information should be shared publicly or kept private.  I won't be making that mistake with you again.

Pat Coleman

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One coach (you decide who) got a call telling him he was no longer in the running.

This is certainly fun, watching all the back and forth. I got a PM from someone with a completely different name that nobody has talked about in weeks, claiming the guy was a done deal. Have not been able to get in touch with the coach in question.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

Pat Coleman

As for what has happened to people, well, I found out about a decade ago what happened when I tried to tell people what they could and could not talk about. They don't take kindly to it. Whether you sincerely believe that was your intent or not, sac, that was the result, and things you say have been taken that way on more than one occasion now.

So rather than try to stifle conversation, just let it happen.

This is just my two cents, not an official moderator-type statement, but I think it's worth considering.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

sac

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Quote from: sac on June 09, 2010, 11:18:18 AM
Quote from: hoopdreams on June 09, 2010, 10:33:47 AM
section 7, are you speculating?  By the way SAC, unless you were at the game Monday night and watched it firsthand, your  brief recap was...  Are you speculating that Cornerstone pulled away and that everyone was present other than Bowser?  Was that info told to you in confidence?  Some of us prefer to let nature run its course before jumping to conclusions that C-stone will be good. Summer league are not an accurate indicator of how strong a team will be during the regular season.  I seem to remember someone debating this in the past.  Can someone find that dialogue for me?

By the way, if it does come to fruition that Carlson is named Head Coach, how do you explain it?  You (SAC) confided in me via personal message about the 3 finalists Hope was interviewing, I believe before it became common knowledge to those on this board. And by know it is common knowledge who the initial 3 were.  What happened? Yes, I understand that these were "personal messages", just trying to make a point. Although I'm not even sure what the point is anymore. Suppose I could have PM'd you about this but then no one could see you calling me names.

Of course, section 7 could simply be making this up to stir the pot, maybe because I haven't made any "jerkish" statements in a few hours. Thought I was done with this but the "Holland grapevine" comment with the cute smily face was too much to pass on :-*


Two answers since you want everyting to be public.

1)  As we all probably know now the original statements circulating that Hope had a final 3, were probably not true.

2)  I confided in you before I understood that you simply can't keep anything private, or realized that you can't determine yourself what topics and information should be shared publicly or kept private.  I won't be making that mistake with you again.

In looking back, I can see you already knew where the 3 candidates were from, I was being nice and filled in the blanks for you.   I can see now I was just feeding the wolf in sheeps clothing.

sac

Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 09, 2010, 11:44:18 AM
As for what has happened to people, well, I found out about a decade ago what happened when I tried to tell people what they could and could not talk about. They don't take kindly to it. Whether you sincerely believe that was your intent or not, sac, that was the result, and things you say have been taken that way on more than one occasion now.

So rather than try to stifle conversation, just let it happen.

This is just my two cents, not an official moderator-type statement, but I think it's worth considering.

It was rhetorical but thanks.

almcguirejr

Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 09, 2010, 11:40:55 AM

This is certainly fun, watching all the back and forth. I got a PM from someone with a completely different name that nobody has talked about in weeks, claiming the guy was a done deal. Have not been able to get in touch with the coach in question.

Mike Boschee, Head Coach at Central College hasn't been mentioned in awhile.  He had a great 2009-10 record.  He does not have a Ph.d but does have a Master's and teaches in the Exercise Science department at Central.

ChicagoHopeNut

I am sure we will never know all that went on during this search but as time passes the more and more interesting I suspect the story is becoming.

Hopefully we will get some closure soon.
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Titan Q

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When Scott Trost left IWU for Lewis 4 years ago, that hiring process seemed - to me, at least - to take a long time.  I just found the actual dates - Trost was hired at Lewis 4/11/06, and Ron Rose was hired at IWU 5/12/06.  So about 4 weeks.  In retrospect, that really isn't that long.  I guess it just felt like it at the time as an IWU fan.

How long has this process at Hope been going on now?  We're well past a month, right?

section7

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Quote from: Titan Q on June 09, 2010, 01:08:33 PM
When Scott Trost left IWU for Lewis 4 years ago, that hiring process seemed - to me, at least - to take a long time.  I just found the actual dates - Trost was hired at Lewis 4/11/06, and Ron Rose was hired at IWU 5/12/06.  So about 4 weeks.

How long has this process at Hope been going on now?  We're well past a month, right?

GVW announced retirement 4/15/10, it is now 6/9/10

almcguirejr

Quote from: section7 on June 09, 2010, 01:12:54 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on June 09, 2010, 01:08:33 PM
When Scott Trost left IWU for Lewis 4 years ago, that hiring process seemed - to me, at least - to take a long time.  I just found the actual dates - Trost was hired at Lewis 4/11/06, and Ron Rose was hired at IWU 5/12/06.  So about 4 weeks.

How long has this process at Hope been going on now?  We're well past a month, right?

GVW announced retirement 4/15/10, it is now 6/10/10

Mike Neer retired from Rochester on April 7. His replacement was named on 5/11

Pat Coleman

C.J. Woollum announced he was stepping down as coach on April 21 and there's no replacement yet. As a state school, though, Christopher Newport almost certainly has to formally open and post the position for a certain amount of time to satisfy Virginia law.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

sac

Quote from: section7 on June 09, 2010, 01:12:54 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on June 09, 2010, 01:08:33 PM
When Scott Trost left IWU for Lewis 4 years ago, that hiring process seemed - to me, at least - to take a long time.  I just found the actual dates - Trost was hired at Lewis 4/11/06, and Ron Rose was hired at IWU 5/12/06.  So about 4 weeks.

How long has this process at Hope been going on now?  We're well past a month, right?

GVW announced retirement 4/15/10, it is now 6/9/10

Hope didn't start its search until May 1.

section7

Quote from: sac on June 09, 2010, 01:37:58 PM
Quote from: section7 on June 09, 2010, 01:12:54 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on June 09, 2010, 01:08:33 PM
When Scott Trost left IWU for Lewis 4 years ago, that hiring process seemed - to me, at least - to take a long time.  I just found the actual dates - Trost was hired at Lewis 4/11/06, and Ron Rose was hired at IWU 5/12/06.  So about 4 weeks.

How long has this process at Hope been going on now?  We're well past a month, right?

GVW announced retirement 4/15/10, it is now 6/9/10

Hope didn't start its search until May 1.

I know for absolute fact that is not true, that may have been a date they were taking applications too, but I know they didn't sit around for 15 days doing nothing!

sac

I really don't get why its so important that people think this needs to  be done quickly, or that 7 weeks is a long time.

whats the difference between today and next week or 3 weeks ago?

section7

Quote from: sac on June 09, 2010, 01:44:06 PM
I really don't get why its so important that people think this needs to  be done quickly, or that 7 weeks is a long time.

whats the difference between today and next week or 3 weeks ago?

I am not at all surprised why you don't get it.