MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[Flying Dutch Fan]

I would be very surprised to learn that this "rumored" academic ineligibility is the first time it has ever happened to any player in any sport at Hope.  The effectiveness of an academic eligibility program is: a. the players know the rules going in, b. all coaches in all sports monitor academic progress, and c. to be effective they must be enforced.  I don't doubt for a second that Hope has the integrity to enforce it's elgibility policy.  The problem at USC, and some others (much closer to home)  is knowing what the rules are, and lacking the integrity to self police.

I can guarantee that academic ineligibility has happened on multiple occasions to Hope athletes.  I don't think anyone has ever said or intimated anything different.

[section7]

Its the "look at me I've got inside information" game that is getting tiresome.  Especially when that person is probably not aware that someone he trusts is running to the internet every time they speak.

Gosh, sac, wish we all could be as high and mighty as you.  

Hoopdreams, please PM in the future.  I will not post here anymore until the arrogant ones like sac have retired.  I am so sick of his haughty attitude.  

I know for a fact, I'm not the only one.  Good riddance, oh high and mighty one, SAC "the king of the MIAA board"!

By the way o'mighty sac one, I said to the person who told me this info, I will check and post on d3hoops and see if anyone has any other knowledge, so my guess  is, he would not be unhappy with me.  But nice try, KING SAC!

[Titan Q]

I think Hope and Calvin need to play more in-region non-conference games.

[sac]

Its the "look at me I've got inside information" game that is getting tiresome.  Especially when that person is probably not aware that someone he trusts is running to the internet every time they speak.

Gosh, sac, wish we all could be as high and mighty as you.  

Hoopdreams, please PM in the future.  I will not post here anymore until the arrogant ones like sac have retired.  I am so sick of his haughty attitude.  

I know for a fact, I'm not the only one.  Good riddance, oh high and mighty one, SAC "the king of the MIAA board"!

By the way o'mighty sac one, I said to the person who told me this info, I will check and post on d3hoops and see if anyone has any other knowledge, so my guess  is, he would not be unhappy with me.  But nice try, KING SAC!

Awesome rant, but I was referring to hoopdreams

[northb]

Its the "look at me I've got inside information" game that is getting tiresome.  Especially when that person is probably not aware that someone he trusts is running to the internet every time they speak.

Gosh, sac, wish we all could be as high and mighty as you.  

Hoopdreams, please PM in the future.  I will not post here anymore until the arrogant ones like sac have retired.  I am so sick of his haughty attitude.  

I know for a fact, I'm not the only one.  Good riddance, oh high and mighty one, SAC "the king of the MIAA board"!

By the way o'mighty sac one, I said to the person who told me this info, I will check and post on d3hoops and see if anyone has any other knowledge, so my guess  is, he would not be unhappy with me.  But nice try, KING SAC!

Buh-bye

[Civic Minded]

Its the "look at me I've got inside information" game that is getting tiresome.  Especially when that person is probably not aware that someone he trusts is running to the internet every time they speak.

Gosh, sac, wish we all could be as high and mighty as you.  

Hoopdreams, please PM in the future.  I will not post here anymore until the arrogant ones like sac have retired.  I am so sick of his haughty attitude.  

I know for a fact, I'm not the only one.  Good riddance, oh high and mighty one, SAC "the king of the MIAA board"!

By the way o'mighty sac one, I said to the person who told me this info, I will check and post on d3hoops and see if anyone has any other knowledge, so my guess  is, he would not be unhappy with me.  But nice try, KING SAC!

Buh-bye

  I KNEW there was some subject that Calvin and Hope fans would agree on!      It's a shame that common decency has been construed as arrogance.  Pitiful world we live in, I guess.  Thanks, SAC for saying what the rest of us got too gun-shy to say...and I, for one, apologize.

[devossed]

I think Hope and Calvin need to play more in-region non-conference games.

maybe even some "preseason" ones???

[trinethunder]

IF a player is academically ineligible (fall semester) what is the worst that happens?  They practice with the team, but miss 7 pre-conference games, and yes that could hurt later playing time.  If the grades improve by Christmas break they get their shot.  
If I were the parent of a player you can be sure I would sit down and explain to the little "darling" that play time does not come at the expense of hitting the books.  If the player puts being an athlete ahead of being a student perhaps a little public humiliation may be what is best to help establish proper priorities.

In regards to the "potential " ineligible player only missing 7 pre-confernece games, the rules actually state that an ineligible player cannot play in a game until classes start second semester.  In this case the player would miss the first 13 games of the season (over half) if Hope starts class at the same date Trine does (Jan. 11th)?

[Happy Calvin Guy]

IF a player is academically ineligible (fall semester) what is the worst that happens?  They practice with the team, but miss 7 pre-conference games, and yes that could hurt later playing time.  If the grades improve by Christmas break they get their shot.  
If I were the parent of a player you can be sure I would sit down and explain to the little "darling" that play time does not come at the expense of hitting the books.  If the player puts being an athlete ahead of being a student perhaps a little public humiliation may be what is best to help establish proper priorities.

In regards to the "potential " ineligible player only missing 7 pre-confernece games, the rules actually state that an ineligible player cannot play in a game until classes start second semester.  In this case the player would miss the first 13 games of the season (over half) if Hope starts class at the same date Trine does (Jan. 11th)?

If "second semester" is indeed the language the rules use, that could be troublesome if any Calvin players found themselves ineligible, since interim takes up much of January and second semester doesn't start until near the end of the month (1/31/2011 this year), leaving only six regular season games.  All the more reason to study up!

(I'm haven't verified the language actually in the NCAA rules, just going on the previous post by trine, so maybe the point is moot.)

[sflzman]

IF a player is academically ineligible (fall semester) what is the worst that happens?  They practice with the team, but miss 7 pre-conference games, and yes that could hurt later playing time.  If the grades improve by Christmas break they get their shot.  
If I were the parent of a player you can be sure I would sit down and explain to the little "darling" that play time does not come at the expense of hitting the books.  If the player puts being an athlete ahead of being a student perhaps a little public humiliation may be what is best to help establish proper priorities.

In regards to the "potential " ineligible player only missing 7 pre-confernece games, the rules actually state that an ineligible player cannot play in a game until classes start second semester.  In this case the player would miss the first 13 games of the season (over half) if Hope starts class at the same date Trine does (Jan. 11th)?

If "second semester" is indeed the language the rules use, that could be troublesome if any Calvin players found themselves ineligible, since interim takes up much of January and second semester doesn't start until near the end of the month (1/31/2011 this year), leaving only six regular season games.  All the more reason to study up!

(I'm haven't verified the language actually in the NCAA rules, just going on the previous post by trine, so maybe the point is moot.)

Is it just me, or is there a lot of NCAA rules that leave "gray area" to be inferred?

[KnightSlappy]

IF a player is academically ineligible (fall semester) what is the worst that happens?  They practice with the team, but miss 7 pre-conference games, and yes that could hurt later playing time.  If the grades improve by Christmas break they get their shot.  
If I were the parent of a player you can be sure I would sit down and explain to the little "darling" that play time does not come at the expense of hitting the books.  If the player puts being an athlete ahead of being a student perhaps a little public humiliation may be what is best to help establish proper priorities.

In regards to the "potential " ineligible player only missing 7 pre-confernece games, the rules actually state that an ineligible player cannot play in a game until classes start second semester.  In this case the player would miss the first 13 games of the season (over half) if Hope starts class at the same date Trine does (Jan. 11th)?

If "second semester" is indeed the language the rules use, that could be troublesome if any Calvin players found themselves ineligible, since interim takes up much of January and second semester doesn't start until near the end of the month (1/31/2011 this year), leaving only six regular season games.  All the more reason to study up!

(I'm haven't verified the language actually in the NCAA rules, just going on the previous post by trine, so maybe the point is moot.)

I would have to believe that Interim would be deemed a "semester" for NCAA eligibility purposes. It sure counted on my transcript.

[GoKnights68]

No I wasn't hired by KS to promote his Calvin College basketball blog, but just letting everyone know he has updated it quite a bit just within the last week (link on bottom of his posts).  A lot of stats in there   





OT:
Sometime I'd love to hear about what baseball stats you (KS) really focus on.  I am a fantasy baseball commish every year so I am sort of a stat geek as well.  My stats I use are: HR, RBI, Runs, OPS, BA, SB.  Whip, k, era, wins, saves, k/b ratio.     Are there any stats you really think should be replaced on there with something else for a fantasy h2h league?

[KnightSlappy]

Sometime I'd love to hear about what baseball stats you (KS) really focus on.  I am a fantasy baseball commish every year so I am sort of a stat geek as well.  My stats I use are: HR, RBI, Runs, OPS, BA, SB.  Whip, k, era, wins, saves, k/b ratio. Are there any stats you really think should be replaced on there with something else for a fantasy h2h league?

I've never really thought about using samermetric stats for fantasy baseball scoring. Interesting. I'm not sure if I would recommend it or not.

As far as my own personal nerdy excitement goes, I like wOBA (http://www.insidethebook.com/woba.shtml) best on offense, with a second place vote for OBP. I don't really use too much else, but I will sometimes use OPS when I'm in a hurry.

For pitchers, I like FIP (http://www.tangotiger.net/wiki/index.php?title=FIP) and each of it's individual components (roughly K%, BB% and HR%).

If a pitcher's ERA and FIP are severly out of whack, I like to take a look at their BABIP and batted ball types (LineDrive%, FlyBall%, and GroundBall%), and compare them to career average, to see if he really is getting hammered, or if he's suffering (or benefiting) from random variation.

That's the quick version.

[KnightSlappy]

I was perusing the Grace Bible College Athletic website, and it looks like they're growing their athletic program. Cross country (men's & women's) is now a varsity sport, and they have added men's golf and men's and women's tennis (unless I just missed them in the past).

Anyone have any idea know if it's just part of the plan, or do they have D3 aspirations? I think they now meet the NCAA's minimum sport sponsorship requirement.

[almcguirejr]

I was perusing the Grace Bible College Athletic website, and it looks like they're growing their athletic program. Cross country (men's & women's) is now a varsity sport, and they have added men's golf and men's and women's tennis (unless I just missed them in the past).

Anyone have any idea know if it's just part of the plan, or do they have D3 aspirations? I think they now meet the NCAA's minimum sport sponsorship requirement.

I could see them leaning toward NAIA and the WHAC.  I see them following the Davenport model of using athletics and scholarships as a marketing tool to promote the school.