MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[ziggy]

Calvin's 2010-2011 varsity and junior varsity rosters are posted on the college's website:

http://www.calvin.edu/sports/mens/basketball/roster.htm

KVS must like his recent recruits -- five sophs and four freshmen on the varsity. 

and just five total upperclassmen. The Baby Knights are back!

[KnightSlappy]

Calvin's 2010-2011 varsity and junior varsity rosters are posted on the college's website:

http://www.calvin.edu/sports/mens/basketball/roster.htm

KVS must like his recent recruits -- five sophs and four freshmen on the varsity. 

And a single junior. Have we returned to the days of the baby Knights?

[goodknight]

I caught a little of the practice last night, and some of those freshmen don't really look like babies.   
 

[Civic Minded]

Calvin's 2010-2011 varsity and junior varsity rosters are posted on the college's website:

http://www.calvin.edu/sports/mens/basketball/roster.htm

KVS must like his recent recruits -- five sophs and four freshmen on the varsity. 

I looked at that and thought there's no way Danny Rodts can be a Senior already.  Geez time flies.

I was thinking the same thing about Trent Salo.  Where did all that time go??

[GoKnights68]

Definitely weird seeing Ricky Shilts listed as JV Head Coach.    I think he'll do a good job.

[realist]

If one assumes that a coach is going to play his 5 best players does it really matter if they are all fr., or so's or sr's or some sort of mixture for this season?
While the Knights this year may be younger than the average Knight team over the last 20 years how does that really matter? 
Calvin's lone jr. this year played a grand total of 84 minutes in 13 games last year as a so.  There really is no reason to expect he will play more minutes this season just because he moved up a grade, and he may struggle to even duplicate last years p.t. 
My point is the idea of "baby knights", or "baby dutch" may well be a lot like a "hot hand".  Interesting to talk about, but not all that important.   

[ChicagoHopeNut]

If one assumes that a coach is going to play his 5 best players does it really matter if they are all fr., or so's or sr's or some sort of mixture for this season?
While the Knights this year may be younger than the average Knight team over the last 20 years how does that really matter? 
Calvin's lone jr. this year played a grand total of 84 minutes in 13 games last year as a so.  There really is no reason to expect he will play more minutes this season just because he moved up a grade, and he may struggle to even duplicate last years p.t. 
My point is the idea of "baby knights", or "baby dutch" may well be a lot like a "hot hand".  Interesting to talk about, but not all that important.   

"Baby knights or "baby dutch" does have relevance to the question of experience at the college level, experience playing with the other members of the team, etc. Some players do not adjust quickly to the next level of competition so a young roster can make a difference.

[Civic Minded]

If one assumes that a coach is going to play his 5 best players does it really matter if they are all fr., or so's or sr's or some sort of mixture for this season?
While the Knights this year may be younger than the average Knight team over the last 20 years how does that really matter? 
Calvin's lone jr. this year played a grand total of 84 minutes in 13 games last year as a so.  There really is no reason to expect he will play more minutes this season just because he moved up a grade, and he may struggle to even duplicate last years p.t. 
My point is the idea of "baby knights", or "baby dutch" may well be a lot like a "hot hand".  Interesting to talk about, but not all that important.   

"Baby knights or "baby dutch" does have relevance to the question of experience at the college level, experience playing with the other members of the team, etc. Some players do not adjust quickly to the next level of competition so a young roster can make a difference.

I'd consider the moniker "baby Knights" a compliment.  Brings back memories of a frosh Caleb Veldhouse.  <shudder>   

[13wapiti]

Trine's Roster is up-

http://www.trine.edu/trineathletics/mens_basketball/roster.cfm

[sac]

Trine's Roster is up-

http://www.trine.edu/trineathletics/mens_basketball/roster.cfm

3 quick observations

1) A Trine roster just doesn't look right without Wes Weir.

2)  I can't remember what year they were, but neither of the McNally's are on this years team.  I think one was a Sr. last year.

3)  No Chris Mislan.  Mislan was one of the better Freshmen in the MIAA from 2008, and Sophomore's in 2009.  He didn't play as much last year because of Scott Rogers' emergence but still logged about 13 minutes a game, and started 6.  As a Fr he started 20 games and played 25 min per game.


Otherwise, everyone looks back that we would have thought would be back.


** Edited to correct early onset of alzheimers

[KnightSlappy]

Trine's Roster is up-

http://www.trine.edu/trineathletics/mens_basketball/roster.cfm

3 quick observations

1) A Trine roster just doesn't look right without Wes Weir.

2)  I can't remember what year they were, but neither of the McNally's are on this years team.  I think one was a Sr. last year.

3)  No Chris Mislan.  Mislan was one of the better Freshmen in the MIAA from 2009.  He didn't play as much last year because of Scott Rogers' emergence but still logged about 13 minutes a game, and started 6.  As a Fr he started 20 games and played 25 min per game.


Otherwise, everyone looks back that we would have thought would be back.

I think both McNallys were SR's. I'll have to check on that though (that information is saved on my work computer).

The Hasn't He Graduated? Department would like to call Glenn Alfieri into question. He's definitely not eligible. http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/careerplayer

[Civic Minded]

Trine's Roster is up-

http://www.trine.edu/trineathletics/mens_basketball/roster.cfm

3 quick observations

1) A Trine roster just doesn't look right without Wes Weir.

2)  I can't remember what year they were, but neither of the McNally's are on this years team.  I think one was a Sr. last year.

3)  No Chris Mislan.  Mislan was one of the better Freshmen in the MIAA from 2009.  He didn't play as much last year because of Scott Rogers' emergence but still logged about 13 minutes a game, and started 6.  As a Fr he started 20 games and played 25 min per game.


Otherwise, everyone looks back that we would have thought would be back.

I think both McNallys were SR's. I'll have to check on that though (that information is saved on my work computer).

The Hasn't He Graduated? Department would like to call Glenn Alfieri into question. He's definitely not eligible. http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/careerplayer

This lists him as playing 07-10.  Wouldn't that make him a senior this year?  Fr, 07-08; so, 08-09; jr 09-10; sr, 10-11?    Still, it feels like he's played for well more than 4...

[Mr. Ypsi]

Let's say I put a large sum of money behind one of three doors. I ask you to pick between door 1, 2, and 3.

You pick door number 1 and I then open door number 3, revealing an empty room.

I then give you the opportunity to reconsider your selection of door number 1. Only a fool would not reconsider.

The initial selection was made among three possible outcomes, giving you a 33.3% chance at "success".
Reconsidering gives you the option to choose among two possible outcomes, giving you a 50% chance at "success".

Ah, you must be a fan of Marilyn vos Savant (who did this identical puzzle a few years ago).  Though she never acknowledged it, I disproved her then, and I can do it to you now!

IF you were opening a door at random (such that #3 could have the treasure), your conclusion would be correct.  Since you (presumably) KNOW where the treasure is, you could ALWAYS open either #2 or #3 to reveal an empty room - you have added NOTHING to the information available to the contestant.  While it is true that their initial pick was 1/3 for any room, their current pick is 1/2 FOR EITHER REMAINING ROOM.  Switching or not switching is entirely arbitrary.

But I'm unclear how this relates to the 'time of the game' puzzle.  A score with 15 minutes left will (can) change the strategies for the rest of the game.  A score with 3 seconds left might well be the final crucial difference.

Sorry, Mr. Ypsi.  Ziggy's right.  Only a fool would not switch.  You'll win 2/3 of the time if you switch doors.

Time for some hoops.   

But I already convinced ziggy!

I assume you did not ace probability if you think the odds are now 2/3 for switching!

[KnightSlappy]

Ah, the link didn't work... Let's try this. Glenn Alfieri appears in four years of box scores in the MIAA archives.

http://www.miaa.org/mbb/stats/0607/tsu-m.htm#team.ind
http://www.miaa.org/mbb/stats/0708/tsum.htm#team.ind
http://www.miaa.org/mbb/stats/0809/trinem.htm#team.ind
http://www.miaa.org/mbb/stats/0910/trinem.htm#team.ind

Fail.

[sac]

Ah, the link didn't work... Let's try this. Glenn Alfieri appears in four years in the MIAA archives.

http://www.miaa.org/mbb/stats/0607/tsu-m.htm#team.ind
http://www.miaa.org/mbb/stats/0708/tsum.htm#team.ind
http://www.miaa.org/mbb/stats/0809/trinem.htm#team.ind
http://www.miaa.org/mbb/stats/0910/trinem.htm#team.ind

It also calls into question my memory of Chris Mislan, who was a Fr in 2008.

Ah, the link didn't work... Let's try this. Glenn Alfieri appears in four years in the MIAA archives.

http://www.miaa.org/mbb/stats/0607/tsu-m.htm#team.ind
http://www.miaa.org/mbb/stats/0708/tsum.htm#team.ind
http://www.miaa.org/mbb/stats/0809/trinem.htm#team.ind
http://www.miaa.org/mbb/stats/0910/trinem.htm#team.ind

The 2007, 2008, and 2009 MIAA Tournament programs have Alfieri on the roster as well.  No rosters in 2010 program, but obviously he played for Trine last year.