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realist

Quote from: sac on January 07, 2011, 01:01:49 PM
Take a little timeout from the collective euphoria to admire this shot......

http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/Guard-hits-amazing-back-to-basket-mid-court-sh?urn=highschool-304209

Personally I was impresed with the 3 made by Tanis at the end of the first half.   :)
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hoopdreams

SAC- I saw that play on the news last night, stopped and hit rewind 5 or 6 times. 1 in a 1000????

As big as Tanis' shot was at the end of the half, I think the biggest 3 all night, amongst all one's that Rodts and Schuster made, was the 3 made by Schnyders.

Ty's pinned in the corner, step back 3 to beat the shot clock against Malone last week was pretty impressive too.  From our seats, he looked to be behind the glass.  Anyone sitting in student section, or behind team bench have a better view?

If he would be content with shooting within the flow of the offense and not feel compelled to create long jumpers off the dribble, hope/he would be even better.
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sac

Quote from: oldknight on January 07, 2011, 02:10:44 PM
The public silence surrounding Peter Bunn ends.

http://www.mlive.com/smallcolleges/grandrapids/index.ssf/2011/01/hope_basketball_star_peter_bun.html

I hope people understand now why people were less willing to share what they did or did not know about what was going on.


KnightSlappy

Quote from: sac on January 07, 2011, 02:25:32 PM
Quote from: oldknight on January 07, 2011, 02:10:44 PM
The public silence surrounding Peter Bunn ends.

http://www.mlive.com/smallcolleges/grandrapids/index.ssf/2011/01/hope_basketball_star_peter_bun.html

I hope people understand now why people were less willing to share what they did or did not know about what was going on.

Not in the slightest.

cambria321

Quote from: sac on January 07, 2011, 02:25:32 PM
Quote from: oldknight on January 07, 2011, 02:10:44 PM
The public silence surrounding Peter Bunn ends.

http://www.mlive.com/smallcolleges/grandrapids/index.ssf/2011/01/hope_basketball_star_peter_bun.html

I hope people understand now why people were less willing to share what they did or did not know about what was going on.



. . . and our thoughts and prayers continue to be with him and his family.

northb

Quote from: sac on January 07, 2011, 02:25:32 PM
Quote from: oldknight on January 07, 2011, 02:10:44 PM
The public silence surrounding Peter Bunn ends.

http://www.mlive.com/smallcolleges/grandrapids/index.ssf/2011/01/hope_basketball_star_peter_bun.html

I hope people understand now why people were less willing to share what they did or did not know about what was going on.




No, I don't really understand.  I agree that they have every right to keep that private, but I just don't see why they chose to do so.  That they chose to come out with this information now is also their right, but I do not see how this information in any way sheds light on the decision not to provide it earlier.  Are you alluding to the problems he had in school, and that this might have been embarrassing in some way?  Or that it was undiagnosed?  Or how it originated?  But I guess this puts that issue to rest until he returns next year.  And thoughts and prayers will still be with the family.  It's got to be tough.
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Knightmare

Quote from: sac on January 07, 2011, 02:25:32 PM
Quote from: oldknight on January 07, 2011, 02:10:44 PM
The public silence surrounding Peter Bunn ends.

http://www.mlive.com/smallcolleges/grandrapids/index.ssf/2011/01/hope_basketball_star_peter_bun.html

I hope people understand now why people were less willing to share what they did or did not know about what was going on.



Not sure I understand either.  There is nothing wrong with what Bunn did nor should he be embarrassed about anything regarding the situation.  A simple statement shedding light on the situation (and wouldn't need to be any in depth info) earlier could have gone a long way in suppressing any speculation and conjecture that was going on.  Now, on the other hand if the medical condition or issue had still been unable to be correctly diagnosed and was still a mystery trying to be discovered and correctly diagnosed then I can surely understand the silence from everyone.

Hope did do well in following the families wishes as in the end however you feel about how it was handled it was and is the families decision in whether to disclose the information in the first place and if disclosed how and when.

Prayers for a continued recovery and return to the court and most importantly normal everyday health.

Happy Calvin Guy

Quote from: sac on January 07, 2011, 02:25:32 PM
Quote from: oldknight on January 07, 2011, 02:10:44 PM
The public silence surrounding Peter Bunn ends.

http://www.mlive.com/smallcolleges/grandrapids/index.ssf/2011/01/hope_basketball_star_peter_bun.html

I hope people understand now why people were less willing to share what they did or did not know about what was going on.



Not really.  I think if this information had come out publically from the get-go, everyone, including Calvin fans, would have understood and been sending prayers and well-wishes in Mr. Bunn's direction.  Unless you think that doing bicycle stunts is irresponsible, there is nothing "shameful" about his situation.  It's life, and sometimes unfortunate things happen, but decent people root for other people as human beings regardless of what uniform they wear on game day.  The secretive nature of this up to now has only led to thoughts and rumors that are sometimes worse than reality and that has not benefitted Mr. Bunn or Hope at all.  

Matt Neil seems pretty non committal about his thoughts about Bunn's future in the program.  Whether he plays again or not, I just hope that his education and life get on track and that he feels the support of those around him.  

realist

#27414
It took me about 3 Google clicks to figure out Mr. Bunn had suffered a closed head injury, and is probably suffering from "post concussion syndrome" once it was disclosed he was advised not to let his blood pressure rise.   Flying over the handlebars of a bike normally results in more than a 1 point (wrist) landing.    Been there, done that, and looked stupid as all get out.   :)
Closed head injuries are nothing to joke about, and I am sure every poster here wants a complete healing for young Mr. Bunn.  By not disclosing this information sooner it fueled unnessecary, but all to human speculation.
The seriousness of this injury is really pointed out by the sad story out of JCU about another young person with a closed head injury.

Post concussion syndrome is very hard to determine, and it seems no two people have the same set of side effects.  
"If you are catching flack it means you are over the target".  Brietbart.

Civic Minded

Oh dear Lord!!!!!  You seriously cannot understand how in the midst of the shock, and the stress, and the dozens of tests, and the uncertainty, and the challenges, why they would choose to keep this private for a while as they dealt with it and came to terms with it themselves? 

I tend to try to stay quiet on the hot button issues around here, but this takes the cake.  Yes, I've known for quite some time about Peter, and yes, I chose to respect the family and keep it close to the vest.  How so many of you could act like jackasses when they finally are able to and comfortable with disclosing some of it is beyond me. 

There was nothing "hidden" due to possible embarassment, any wrong done, or anything of the like.  Grow up, and accept the fact that you just don't need to know everything.  It will be okay.  Seek therapy if you need to, but get over it.  Sheesh.

And if Matt Neil seems non-commital to you in a possibly accurate, possibly not quote in some newspaper, you've got way too much time on your hands and you're just looking for trouble.  Of course he's non-comittal...there are many unknowns yet.  God help you all.
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realist

#27416
They didn't keep the bike accident a secret, and they didn't keep the wrist injury a secret, but once it was determined to be a head injury it suddenly needs to be kept secret?  Why do some people persist in thinking, and insisting, that some injuries are somehow different from others?  
Mr. Bunn had the symptoms for nearly a year, so that rules out shock.   We know how hard it is to diagnose head injuries, but a simple statement "he suffered a closed head injury" makes more sense than what was given.
Almost every football game today one player or another suffers a concussion (closed head injury).  It is a fact of the game, and most of us understand the seriousness of the injury.  It serves no purpose to attach a "stigma" to this injury that it must somehow be kept secret.
"If you are catching flack it means you are over the target".  Brietbart.

Knightmare

#27417
Quote from: Civic Minded on January 07, 2011, 03:43:34 PM
Oh dear Lord!!!!!  You seriously cannot understand how in the midst of the shock, and the stress, and the dozens of tests, and the uncertainty, and the challenges, why they would choose to keep this private for a while as they dealt with it and came to terms with it themselves?  

I tend to try to stay quiet on the hot button issues around here, but this takes the cake.  Yes, I've known for quite some time about Peter, and yes, I chose to respect the family and keep it close to the vest.  How so many of you could act like jackasses when they finally are able to and comfortable with disclosing some of it is beyond me.  

There was nothing "hidden" due to possible embarassment, any wrong done, or anything of the like.  Grow up, and accept the fact that you just don't need to know everything.  It will be okay.  Seek therapy if you need to, but get over it.  Sheesh.

And if Matt Neil seems non-commital to you in a possibly accurate, possibly not quote in some newspaper, you've got way too much time on your hands and you're just looking for trouble.  Of course he's non-comittal...there are many unknowns yet.  God help you all.

I believe your blood pressure is rising as we speak.  Calm down and take a breath.

To address in order of my own highlighted areas in your post.  First, that was everyone's exact point that he hadn't done anything wrong to be covered up.  Also, if you refer back to my post from within the last hour I clearly said that if they were in the discovery process that it was quite understandable if no formal statement was forthcoming.

Second, and most importantly, to imply that "God help you all" as if we will be burning in hell over this line of discussion while you didn't discuss because "I've know for quite some time...and keep it close to the vest." is quite an uncalled for statement.  If you hadn't already known and kept it close to the vest I imagine that you would at least be wondering why your star player wasn't suiting up.  I don't recall anyone ever discussing Mr. Bunn in a nasty speculative type of way, more a I hope he's alright and wonder what is going on type of way.

So please quite acting all high and mighty on this topic, this is exactly what people talk about when they say some take this MESSAGE BOARD FORUM way to seriously and it turns off some posters.  We all come here to talk about basketball and MIAA bball in particular and that is exactly how Mr. Bunn was discussed as it applies to MIAA basketball.

And now my karma rating has already taken a hit from a couple Hope posters trying to scold me.   ::) ::) ::)

Flying Dutch Fan

And exactly why do any of us need to know??  I'd honestly like an answer.
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Knightmare

#27419
Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on January 07, 2011, 04:00:33 PM
And exactly why do any of us need to know??  I'd honestly like an answer.


No one said that we need to know.  ALL they said is that it would have squashed some of the illegitimate discussion and speculation that occurred on this message board and in the community.

You are right no one needed to know.  I don't believe that was ever anyone's point.

I'd also like to reiterate that even as a Calvin fan I wish Mr. Bunn a quick and speedy recovery and return to the court and most importantly a normal, healthy life.  He's got a lot to look forward to besides bball.