MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[sac]

Alright, trying to shift gears.  Anyone with any profound pregame analysis of the big game.  What are your key matchups or key players that could swing this game one way or the other?

Dear Hope defenders,

Rodts and Schuster can shoot, from behind the arc even.  Please see to it the appropriate measures are taken.

Sincerely, 
Nervous and perplexed Hope fan.


Might not be profound but I might just bury my head in my jacket the rest of the game if those two get the open looks they saw in Holland.

[HopeConvert]

Depends on who gets hot.

Seriously, if Calvin shoots like they did at the DeVos, and if Hope plays defense like they did there, it won't be close.

My concern is that if and when Hope goes into a zone and leave a good shooter like Rodts open on the weak side. They aren't that hard to throw over, and these kinds of open looks have been killers. Throw in the normal rebounding problems you get with a zone defense and it could get ugly.

For Hope to win, I really think they need Krombeen and Overway to attack the hoop, and not simply along the baseline either. I've been saying for some time that if Salo is guarding Krombeen, then David ought to post him up. This could open things up for Hope's shooters, and I think it Hope plays an up-tempo game they can wear Calvin out.

[KnightSlappy]

I've been saying for some time that if Salo is guarding Krombeen, then David ought to post him up.

And allow Schuster and Kruis to come from the weak side to block his shots? Yes please.

I think it Hope plays an up-tempo game they can wear Calvin out.

Calvin averages about 5 more possessions per game than Hope does, so it doesn't appear that pushing the tempo would cause undue stress on the Knights.

Looks like Hope actually gets about 2 more possessions than the Knights per game. My numbers were wrong 

[Stinger]

Propelec is a beast, you could see the potential the first time he put on the Orange & Black.  Pretty solid for only 4.5 years of organized baskebtall.

[gohope]

Alright, trying to shift gears.  Anyone with any profound pregame analysis of the big game.  What are your key matchups or key players that could swing this game one way or the other?

Dear Hope defenders,

Rodts and Schuster can shoot, from behind the arc even.  Please see to it the appropriate measures are taken.

Sincerely, 
Nervous and perplexed Hope fan.


Might not be profound but I might just bury my head in my jacket the rest of the game if those two get the open looks they saw in Holland.

Paper - Glue.... Paper - Glue!!!!

[GoKnights68]

The last Calvin/Hope game, Calvin let Will Bowser get quite a few open looks from beyond arc, and the Knights were lucky that Bowser wasn't really on that night behind the arc (1 for 6).   The Knights better not count on that to happen again.  Bowser has performed quite well at Van Noord in recent years, so the Knights have to clamp down on him.

[hoopdreams]

Ziggy, you are quite correct in stating that anytime a player far exceeds his/her normal performance it is special.  "riding the hot-hand" or "being in the zone" is simply an expression used to convey one's excellence that night.  Before this board, in all of my years of playing, coaching and viewing thousands of games, I had never heard of a "hot-hand theory" people just enjoyed the moment. Last night was a small sample of what can happen when someone is playing at a high confidence level.  How many hundreds of interviews have we heard from hs to the NBA about players "feeling it"? Why not get in the zone every night?  You are also correct in stating that its not in a players control but it is why kids shoot thousands and thousands of shots on their own time, for games like this.  

Why does a kid like Powell, or Schuster, Bowser, or Tanis go 5-7 one game and 1-7 the next?  Because one game it "feels" good, and the other they're hoping and praying to hit the next one.  HC- you are correct, overall it was not a great shooting performance from behind the arc.  It was however a great scoring one, his strong finishes around the hoop were the most impressive in his 4 years.

I was not attempting to prove something or use Coach Passage's words as proof and I know I'll continue to be in the minority in this discussion.  I truly hope that an individual has an unbelievable shooting performance this weekend ( Not scoring, most anyone should be able to score a bunch shooting 25-30 times).  Please find that young man immediately after the game and ask him why that game was special.  Why did they shoot so well that game? I'll be curious to know their response.

Thank you for the debate, no winners or losers (except me)but why am I losing so much Karma?  To whom could I possibly have offended?

Keys to success:

1.  Don't allow team to shoot 40% or higher from arc
2.  Don't allow a rebounding differential of 5 or more, especially not 25
3.  Don't get outscored from FT line
4.  If you're really important to your teams success, don't get into foul trouble
4.  Your back court combo must outscore theirs

[oldknight]

Why not get in the zone every game? Because, it isn't something the player can control; a random variation to the positive.

Does this mean we should look for a course correction from Bowser on Saturday; i.e., a random variation to the negative? This Calvin fan sure does "Hope" so.

I've been saying for some time that if Salo is guarding Krombeen, then David ought to post him up.

And allow Schuster and Kruis to come from the weak side to block his shots? Yes please.

I think it Hope plays an up-tempo game they can wear Calvin out.

Calvin averages about 5 more possessions per game than Hope does, so it doesn't appear that pushing the tempo would cause undue stress on the Knights.

Looks like Hope actually gets about 2 more possessions than the Knights per game. My numbers were wrong 

If HC meant to say that Hope can wear out Calvin physically, then I agree with KS because Calvin is actually pretty deep. But if HC means to say that an uptempo game (thereby leading to more possessions) gives Hope more chances to exploit a matchup advantage then HC may have a case. Of course more possessions also gives Calvin more chances to exploit matchup advantages so that kind of thinking may be the proverbial double-edged sword.

[KnightSlappy]

hoopdreams, the point of the "hot hand theory" that us "nonbelievers" are trying to convey is this.

Say Powell is 3-3 and Rodts is 0-3. Who do I want to take the next one? Rodts. Even though he's "cold" for the game, and Bryan is "hot", he's still a better shooter, and he's more likely to hit shot #4 than Powell is.

A coach should only "ride the hot hand" (give more minutes or shots to a "hot" player) if he's also one of the best players. Never use a worse player instead of a better player becuase one appears hot.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Concerning Krombeen & Overway:

I'm perfectly happy with the combination of the two (including the time they are on the floor together. Here are their combined per game stats.

Points - 16.4
Rebounds - 5.6
Assists - 7.9
TO - 3.9
Assist / TO - 2.03
Steals - 4.8
Blocks - 0.3
FT% - .774
Minutes - 45.8

[hoopdreams]

FDF- I agree, I am also happy with the combined stats of Tanis and Neil without doing all the work. Last night was one of the few nights where it may have been nice to have 1 more guard in the rotation because there were some struggles and unique combos on the floor.

If Powell is 6-8 and Rodts is 1-8, I hope they script up a play for Rodts

It doesn't simply pertain to shooting.  If Nate King  or Haverdink comes in, knocks a shot down, grabs a couple boards,forces a TO and makes a huge play to turn the momentum of the game, do you take him out when planned? Or do you let him play a bit more?  What if the pre-game plan is to play Vennema in 2 minute increments, but he comes in and scores 8 straight?  Do you take him out if he's not winded?

[KnightSlappy]

If Powell is 6-8 and Rodts is 1-8, I hope they script up a play for Rodts

All day.

[Happy Calvin Guy]

FDF- I agree, I am also happy with the combined stats of Tanis and Neil without doing all the work. Last night was one of the few nights where it may have been nice to have 1 more guard in the rotation because there were some struggles and unique combos on the floor.

If Powell is 6-8 and Rodts is 1-8, I hope they script up a play for Rodts

If Powell is 6-8 I would bet that he takes the next shot regardless of what play is drawn up in the huddle. 

[KnightSlappy]

FDF- I agree, I am also happy with the combined stats of Tanis and Neil without doing all the work. Last night was one of the few nights where it may have been nice to have 1 more guard in the rotation because there were some struggles and unique combos on the floor.

If Powell is 6-8 and Rodts is 1-8, I hope they script up a play for Rodts

If Powell is 6-8 I would bet that he takes the next shot regardless of what play is drawn up in the huddle.  

Too true. Bryan's a rare cat that probably "feels hot" even when he's 1-8. 

[northb]

I don't have a "math" mind, so I don't really get into statistical data, formulas, etc... I don't need to know what % he made after a make, nor a miss and I'm not belittling anyone's ways or methods of breaking down a game but it simply seems, to me, to take a lot of the joy away from the game and one of the great performances ever in a Hope Jersey.  On a personal note to the Calvin blogger,I love your site and you do an outstanding job but much of your data is too intense for my simplistic mind!  Can you dummy it down for me?

KnightSlappy: please type slower.