MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[sac]

Some time ago Hope's Will Bowser passed the 1,000 career point mark.  After last night he sits #23 right behind Glenn Van Wieren

The partial Hope all-time scoring list

12. Stephen Cramer        1,455
13. Chip Henry             1,358
14. Bob Hendrickson    1,351
15. Jesse Reimink       1,321
16. Don Overbeek        1,259
17. Andy Phillips        1,200
18. Brad Duistermars     1,197
19. Colly Carlson       1,189
20. Jim Holwerda        1,155
21. Ryan Klingler        1,155
22. Glenn Van Wieren    1,139
23.  Will Bowser          1,126
24. Greg Immink        1,113
25. Jeff Heerdt       1,111
26. Marcus Vanderheide    1,085
27. Brian Vriesman       1,073
28. Scott Benson       1,049
29. Chad Carlson        1,034
30. Matt Strong       1,027
31. Jim Klunder       1,019
32. Pat Stegeman        1,016
33. Marty Snoap       1,003


Will also has a good chance to end up on the single-season scoring list, he has 446 points after last night.

Hope's single season scoring list
1. Floyd Brady       712    31.0
2. Jesse Reimink     604    20.8
3. Wade Gugino     597    22.1
4. Dan Shinabarger    565    27.5
5. Duane Bosma    563    17.6
6. Warren VanderHill 545 25.9
7. Eric Elliott        535    20.6
8. Floyd Brady        533    24.2
9. Jim VanderHill    527    25.1
10. Stephen Cramer 526    17.0
11. Eric Elliott            522    20.1
12. Colly Carlson    510    18.2
13. Duane Bosma    509    18.9
14. Dan Shinabarger504    22.9


Will is also just 19 rebounds away from joining Hope's top list in that category.


Ty Tanis is 4 3 point shots from joining Hope's top ten 3 point's made list.

[oldknight]

So I'll still be rooting for Albion on Saturday. It would take more than that to get me to wear a Calvin sweatshirt.

So if Calvin plays Albion in the conference semifinal at DeVos, will you still be rooting for Albion?

You should know better than to ask me that!

I do have a bet with a Calvin friend: if either team wins both regular season MIAA games, the loser has to wear that team's sweatshirt for a day. In public. That is the only circumstance under which I'd wear a Calvin sweatshirt.

As to your question, at this point I'd like another shot at Albion in the DeVos.

What we haven't discussed yet are the Pool "C" implications of last night. I still think with a win on Saturday and two wins in the tourney Hope ought to be in a good position, depending on what happens in the NCAC tourney (I was surprised Wooster was still in 1st). But I'm not as confident as I was, and this could make Hope more "desperate" in the MIAA tourney if they're not confident winning it will still get them in the NCAA's.

You write like you're an academic. Address every question except for the one asked. You'll never get away with that if you ever sit in the dock and face one of my withering cross examinations.

Like Socrates, I spend more than half my time letting people know why the question they're asking is the wrong one. I would like to believe that, like Socrates, I would hold up well under direct questioning at my trial. I would hope for a better outcome than he had, however. Not that I'm comparing you to Meletus.

Touche'.  However, I would have been flattered if you could have placed me in the company of Diogenes, carrying my lantern, searching for an honest poster.

[sac]

Albion's JC Cruse has 911 career points after last night.  With a good tournament run he could join Albion's 1,000 point club which would be outstanding for a 3 year varsity player (only a handfull of game action his Fr. year)



Also I'm flattered that I show up in a picture on albion.edu, I look so enthralled........and I needed a hair cut then, its worse now.

[Gregory Sager]

I also find it interesting how many different interpretations we have on this board on the last play.  We all believe we had good look at the play and we all saw something different?  Could our interpretation be influenced by who we were rooting for?

If Kurosawa had been a basketball fan, he would've filmed Rashomon in an MIAA gym.

[Gregory Sager]

I don't think the HOFers have those magical powers anymore.

You go right on thinking that, realist.

Muhahahahahaha!

[goodknight]

section7 did not violate Terms of Service and no moderator action was taken.

Sounds like a chapter7 to me.

[HopeConvert]

I have in my possession a Zapruder-quality film of the final play, and it's about as definitive because the camera operator forgot his camera duties and got it pointed under the hoop a little later than we would have liked. My take: Colton didn't push off with his arm, but neither was he flattened. I don't see a foul on the play. The Albion player is pretty stationary and is vertical. He has his back to Colton, who grabs the ball while he is in the air and falling toward the baseline when he pushes the ball up toward the hoop. Tough, tough shot. Colton actually had more time than he thought he did, but the pass was pretty deep to the baseline and I don't know he could have come down with it inbounds.

Best I can do with what I have.

[Busted Stuff]

"Boy, that escalated quickly. I mean that really got out of hand fast."

I love the "Anchorman" reference! +k (if I could!)

[calvin_grad]

My crack research staff has come up with the definitive video of Colton Overway's play and whether or not he was fouled.  Fast forward to the 5:05 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zjDxxeJv0I

[Flying Dutch Fan]

My crack research staff has come up with the definitive video of Colton Overway's play and whether or not he was fouled.  Fast forward to the 5:05 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zjDxxeJv0I

Looks to be exactly the same play with exactly the same outcome.  +k

[HopeConvert]

I have in my possession a Zapruder-quality film of the final play, and it's about as definitive because the camera operator forgot his camera duties and got it pointed under the hoop a little later than we would have liked. My take: Colton didn't push off with his arm, but neither was he flattened. I don't see a foul on the play. The Albion player is pretty stationary and is vertical. He has his back to Colton, who grabs the ball while he is in the air and falling toward the baseline when he pushes the ball up toward the hoop. Tough, tough shot. Colton actually had more time than he thought he did, but the pass was pretty deep to the baseline and I don't know he could have come down with it inbounds.

Best I can do with what I have.

I can say with complete confidence there was only one shooter.

[gohope]

A "Heads Up" to everyone for the Hope vs. Kalamazoo game tomorrow, Saturday, February 19, 2011.

There is NO Men's JV game.  Seems to be a scheduling "Oops!"

The Lady Hornets will be playing St. Mary's at 1:00 p.m. with Hope vs. Kalamazoo Men following at 3:00 p.m.

Please pass the word! 

[calvin_grad]

My crack research staff has come up with the definitive video of Colton Overway's play and whether or not he was fouled.  Fast forward to the 5:05 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zjDxxeJv0I

Looks to be exactly the same play with exactly the same outcome.  +k

And IIRC, the exact same questions about who fouled whom, what constitutes a foul on a play like that, and whether or not the refs should swallow their whistles in the last second of the game.

[Civic Minded]

A "Heads Up" to everyone for the Hope vs. Kalamazoo game tomorrow, Saturday, February 19, 2011.

There is NO Men's JV game.  Seems to be a scheduling "Oops!"

The Lady Hornets will be playing St. Mary's at 1:00 p.m. with Hope vs. Kalamazoo Men following at 3:00 p.m.

Please pass the word! 

If this is true (working on confirmation) Hope's jv is unaware of it.  Could there be someplace else on campus that they would play the jv game?

[Flying Dutch Fan]

A "Heads Up" to everyone for the Hope vs. Kalamazoo game tomorrow, Saturday, February 19, 2011.

There is NO Men's JV game.  Seems to be a scheduling "Oops!"

The Lady Hornets will be playing St. Mary's at 1:00 p.m. with Hope vs. Kalamazoo Men following at 3:00 p.m.

Please pass the word! 

If this is true (working on confirmation) Hope's jv is unaware of it.  Could there be someplace else on campus that they would play the jv game?

Unfortunately, confirmed there will be no Hope/Kalamazoo JV game tomorrow.