MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[ziggy]

Ziggy:

What criteria are you referring?  Enlighten me. 

When does overal record, strength of schedule, not matter?

The criteria used to determine the regional rankings

The NCAA has defined the following as primary selection criteria:
• Win-loss percentage against regional opponents.
• Strength-of-schedule (only contests versus regional competition).
• In-region head-to-head competition.
• In-region results versus common regional opponents.
• In-region results versus regionally ranked teams.

The NCAA has defined the following as secondary selection criteria if the primary criteria does not result in a decision:
• Out-of-region head-to-head competition.
• Overall Division III win-loss percentage.
• Results versus common non Division III opponents.
• Results versus all Division III ranked teams.
• Overall win-loss percentage.
• Results versus all common opponents.
• Overall DIII strength of schedule.
• Should a committee find that evaluation of a team's win-loss percentage during 25 percent of the season is applicable, (i.e., end-of-seasn performance), it may adopt such criteria with approval from the championships committee.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Ziggy:

What criteria are you referring?  Enlighten me. 

When does overal record, strength of schedule, not matter?

It is always amusing to see someone come on with a nom de post which is virtually self-mocking.  D-III Insider??!!

The primary (and secondary) criteria for selection are readily available (see the FAQ or any of several boards).  Of the five primary criteria (none of which are overall record), Hope clearly wins on two and 3 are not applicable.

[I see now that ziggy has beaten me to the response with the listing of criteria.]

[D-III Insider]

Ziggy:

Look at #2 in both your lists to begin.  There is no argiung those 2 points in my opinion.

[ziggy]

Ziggy:

Look at #2 in both your lists to begin.  There is no argiung those 2 points in my opinion.

Interesting, you better check your strength of schedule numbers because that is not close to being correct.
Here is a hint: http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=5126.msg1301892#msg1301892

Again, you haven't presented any numbers to convince me.

[Kale Vinn Ight]

Looks like knightslappy's "guaranteed" prediction came true. 3 technical fouls in 1 game keeps things interesting.

[wiz]

Game stats show Eric Mack of Olivet with 6 fouls tonight.

[KnightSlappy]

Game stats show Eric Mack of Olivet with 6 fouls tonight.

From the play by play, it looked like he fouled out, then took a T for good measure.

[ziggy]

Game stats show Eric Mack of Olivet with 6 fouls tonight.

That would be possible if a player fouled out and then was assessed a technical foul since a tech also counts as a personal foul in the college game.

Edit: got beat to it!

[Mr. Ypsi]

Hmm - it's a team game, but that 'sixth' foul seems like a freebie for the player.  I wonder if anyone has ever considered the idea of the player starts the next game already with one foul?

[monsoon]

Alma           77
Hope          110

Trine          65
Calvin         72

Kalamazoo   66
Albion         76   (2 OT)

Adrian         67
Olivet         64   (2 OT)

[monsoon]

The last year of an 8-team tournament, and both the 3/6 and 4/5 games go into double OT.

[KnightSlappy]

Hmm - it's a team game, but that 'sixth' foul seems like a freebie for the player.  I wonder if anyone has ever considered the idea of the player starts the next game already with one foul?

But that gives the next team an unfair advantage.

[KnightSlappy]

The last year of an 8-team tournament, and both the 3/6 and 4/5 games go into double OT.

But, the only underdog to win was the #5, and it took them double OT to do it.

[realist]

Interesting games.  I don't recall 2 double ot games on one night before even in regular conference play.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Hmm - it's a team game, but that 'sixth' foul seems like a freebie for the player.  I wonder if anyone has ever considered the idea of the player starts the next game already with one foul?

But that gives the next team an unfair advantage.

True, but not uncommon in sports (see red card in soccer, for example).  And apparently if a player is ejected due to fighting, they are disqualified for the next game in basketball.

Total disqualification is obviously a greater advantage for the next team than starting with one foul!