MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[AndersDY]

I was at that game, also, AndersDY, and likewise remember it as the greatest-ever performance I've witnessed by a Hope player.  Joel's 39 points and Duane Bosma's 24 points that night nearly carried Hope to victory against a Rowan team loaded with DI and DII players who had used up their eligibility (including one who had started for Georgetown).  Joel was the best player on the floor that night. 

In the aftermath, DIII passed "the Rowan rule" to prevent this from happening again.

Another memory of that weekend.  In the semi-final game, IWU lost on a last second tip-in to Rowan, depriving IWU and Hope fans of a liberal arts DIII final between two kindred programs.  That was the game that we all (Ypsi, were you around then?) wanted. 

I assume you saw the quotes on D3 in my post, which was of course intentional. Yes, it felt like we were robbed of a classic matchup between Hope and IWU. I recall going back in to watch the Rowan-IWU game when the Hope game was done and realizing both of those teams looked far better than F+M did. If only we had time travel, I'd love to see what a game with IWU would have looked like in the finals.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Ypsi is talking about 2001, although it was William Paterson.
Pointlem is talking about 1996.

The Guru is (as usual) correct.  The Rowan game (which we came within ONE freakin' rebound of winning) was 1996 - a team almost certainly better than our 1997 national championship team.  Since the internet basically did not exist then (and certainly had little relevance for d3), I was not even aware of IWU's accomplishments until months later.

The game I was confusing it with was 2001 (which I did listen to, thanks to the internet), when Horace Jenkins of Willie Pat scored a gazillion points against us.  I'm still mystified how Catholic shut him down, but I liked our matchups against Catholic if we had gotten there.

[Pat Coleman]

Catholic had an excellent defender and had played William Paterson twice before in Jenkins' career.

[alexj35]

Hey everyone! Go to the d3hoops homepage and vote for Michael McClary to play in the All-Star game! He's 3rd in voting right now and voting will end at 2pm today! The top 2 get to play! Help out a fellow MIAA player and let's see if we can get him to the top!
http://www.d3hoops.com/

[calvin_grad]

Hey everyone! Go to the d3hoops homepage and vote for Michael McClary to play in the All-Star game! He's 3rd in voting right now and voting will end at 2pm today! The top 2 get to play! Help out a fellow MIAA player and let's see if we can get him to the top!
http://www.d3hoops.com/

Now he's 5th.

[sac]

good article about the 'ball screen'..

http://www.annarbor.com/sports/um-basketball/the-ball-screen-has-become-a-prevalent-offense-in-college-basketball-including-at-michigan/

[almcguirejr]

good article about the 'ball screen'..

http://www.annarbor.com/sports/um-basketball/the-ball-screen-has-become-a-prevalent-offense-in-college-basketball-including-at-michigan/

I am not a fan of this type of basketball.  The "2 man game" is not great basketball to watch.  If you watch some of the NCAA championship games of the 80's, and compare it to today, you can see how much the game has changed.  
There was more freedom of movement for all the players on the floor.  Following the NBA's example of how the game  is played is not a good thing.  How many people can sit through a whole game?  The amount of clutching, grabbing, and chipping that is allowed in a basketball game today does not make for good basketball.   My wish is that college basketball would make a move to begin calling the off the ball stuff that restricts player movement.

[Dutch_Man]

Best of luck to the Dutchmen this weekend, all of us are MIAA-ers in tourney time! 

While reminiscing, scottie's reference to Cramer brought to mind the prior Hope great that Cramer reminded me of, which was Joel Holstege. Though it was in a loss to the "Division III" champions, Holstege putting up something like 39 (??) on Rowan as a Soph was quite a memorable performance as well. That might be the greatest individual game that I've personally seen in the NCAAs from a Hope player.

I was at that game, also, AndersDY, and likewise remember it as the greatest-ever performance I've witnessed by a Hope player.  Joel's 39 points and Duane Bosma's 24 points that night nearly carried Hope to victory against a Rowan team loaded with DI and DII players who had used up their eligibility (including one who had started for Georgetown).  Joel was the best player on the floor that night. 

In the aftermath, DIII passed "the Rowan rule" to prevent this from happening again.

Another memory of that weekend.  In the semi-final game, IWU lost on a last second tip-in to Rowan, depriving IWU and Hope fans of a liberal arts DIII final between two kindred programs.  That was the game that we all (Ypsi, were you around then?) wanted. 

This also reminds me that the great Hope teams of the past have featured, as that team did, a great post player who could score, rebound, and draw the defense away from the perimeter, and a great guard.  Lacking that sort of 6' 9" presence inside (a male counterpart to Snikkers or Verkaik), I see this year's Hope men's team as having achieved what it has by dint of grit and team spirit.

I was also at this game but I was only ten years old.... I mainly remember the tears coming down.... my little heart was broken....

[ziggy]

I was also at this game but I was only ten years old.... I mainly remember the tears coming down.... my little heart was broken....

Back when you were Dutch_Boy and a different current poster was NotQuiteAsOldKnight

[oldknight]

I was also at this game but I was only ten years old.... I mainly remember the tears coming down.... my little heart was broken....

Back when you were Dutch_Boy and a different current poster was NotQuiteAsOldKnight

I resemble that remark.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Best of luck to the Dutchmen this weekend, all of us are MIAA-ers in tourney time! 

While reminiscing, scottie's reference to Cramer brought to mind the prior Hope great that Cramer reminded me of, which was Joel Holstege. Though it was in a loss to the "Division III" champions, Holstege putting up something like 39 (??) on Rowan as a Soph was quite a memorable performance as well. That might be the greatest individual game that I've personally seen in the NCAAs from a Hope player.

I was at that game, also, AndersDY, and likewise remember it as the greatest-ever performance I've witnessed by a Hope player.  Joel's 39 points and Duane Bosma's 24 points that night nearly carried Hope to victory against a Rowan team loaded with DI and DII players who had used up their eligibility (including one who had started for Georgetown).  Joel was the best player on the floor that night. 

In the aftermath, DIII passed "the Rowan rule" to prevent this from happening again.

Another memory of that weekend.  In the semi-final game, IWU lost on a last second tip-in to Rowan, depriving IWU and Hope fans of a liberal arts DIII final between two kindred programs.  That was the game that we all (Ypsi, were you around then?) wanted. 

This also reminds me that the great Hope teams of the past have featured, as that team did, a great post player who could score, rebound, and draw the defense away from the perimeter, and a great guard.  Lacking that sort of 6' 9" presence inside (a male counterpart to Snikkers or Verkaik), I see this year's Hope men's team as having achieved what it has by dint of grit and team spirit.

I was also at this game but I was only ten years old.... I mainly remember the tears coming down.... my little heart was broken....

We've got pictures of our son (now a freshman at Hope) from 2 years later, sitting on Pat Stegeman's shoulders and I think both of them were crying.

[monsoon]

Y'all are making me feel old.

[sac]

The 5 finalists for Mr. Basketball were announced today.

    * Dwaun Anderson  6-4  Suttons Bay (Michigan State)
    * Carlton Brundidge  6-2  Southfield (Michigan)
    * LaDontae Henton  6-6  Lansing Eastern (Dayton)
    * Brandan Kearney  6-6  Detroit Southeastern (Michigan State)
    * Amir Williams  6-10  Birmingham Country Day (Ohio State)


I don't think any of these guys gave soft verbals to any MIAA schools when they were Freshmen.

[goodknight]

Best of luck to the Dutchmen this weekend, all of us are MIAA-ers in tourney time! 

While reminiscing, scottie's reference to Cramer brought to mind the prior Hope great that Cramer reminded me of, which was Joel Holstege. Though it was in a loss to the "Division III" champions, Holstege putting up something like 39 (??) on Rowan as a Soph was quite a memorable performance as well. That might be the greatest individual game that I've personally seen in the NCAAs from a Hope player.

I was at that game, also, AndersDY, and likewise remember it as the greatest-ever performance I've witnessed by a Hope player.  Joel's 39 points and Duane Bosma's 24 points that night nearly carried Hope to victory against a Rowan team loaded with DI and DII players who had used up their eligibility (including one who had started for Georgetown).  Joel was the best player on the floor that night. 

In the aftermath, DIII passed "the Rowan rule" to prevent this from happening again.

Another memory of that weekend.  In the semi-final game, IWU lost on a last second tip-in to Rowan, depriving IWU and Hope fans of a liberal arts DIII final between two kindred programs.  That was the game that we all (Ypsi, were you around then?) wanted. 

This also reminds me that the great Hope teams of the past have featured, as that team did, a great post player who could score, rebound, and draw the defense away from the perimeter, and a great guard.  Lacking that sort of 6' 9" presence inside (a male counterpart to Snikkers or Verkaik), I see this year's Hope men's team as having achieved what it has by dint of grit and team spirit.

I was also at this game but I was only ten years old.... I mainly remember the tears coming down.... my little heart was broken....

We've got pictures of our son (now a freshman at Hope) from 2 years later, sitting on Pat Stegeman's shoulders and I think both of them were crying.

This is starting to bear the maudlin markings of a Cubs fan convention. 

[AndersDY]

We've got pictures of our son (now a freshman at Hope) from 2 years later, sitting on Pat Stegeman's shoulders and I think both of them were crying.

Stegeman took that second near-miss really hard. If I recall, did he make the all tourney team and have to be hauled back out of the locker room? I believe he would have been a Jr that year, but I'm sure he realized that making it back without Holstege the next year was not likely.