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goodknight

Quote from: realist on March 09, 2011, 02:57:16 PM
Thanks for the link AlwaysH.   I remember him as a Hope player.  The guy never quit.   Over the years I have wished several Calvin players would have had that intensity and desire.


Speaking of guys who never quit.... ::) ::)

DewCrewVett

Some pretty impressive stats for those two, especially Bowser.

To be in the top 10 of so many categories for a season is proof of what a special senior year Will had. Especially stacking him up to Hope's history of elite performers. I totaled up his rebounds and he came in at 503 over 4 seasons. Anyone have any idea how many 1000 point and 500 rebound players there have been in Hope's long basketball history?

Maybe it was just me, but I didn't realize Tanis had made so many 3's in his 4 years, especially due to his lack of playing time for his Junior season, kudos to him.

Also, I noticed Bowser was 7th all time in total offensive rebounds for his career, which puts him 10th all-time for offensive rebound average for his career. A very important stat that has a big meaning on W and L's!


Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on March 09, 2011, 03:32:00 PM
Individually the Hope seniors stat breakdown is below.  I've listed any single season or career categories where they are in the top 10 (top 20 for points).

Ty Tanis and Will Bowser have the unique distinction of being the only 2 players to have been part of 4 MIAA tournament championship teams.  They also played in the NCAA tournament 4 years, including a trip to the Final Four as freshman.

Adam Dickerson
Category   Season   Career  
FG %     4th      

Ty Tanis

Category   Season   Career  
3FG Made     10th   9th    
3FG Attempted     3rd   4th    
FT%       9th    
Games played       4th    

Will Bowser

Category   Season   Career  
Points     6th   17th    
FG Made     10th      
FG Attempted     9th      
3FG Made     4th      
3FG Attempted     3rd      
3FG %     10th      
Rebounds       10th    
Games played       1st    
Minutes     1st      

Andy Venema played 3 years (or parts thereof).  He was on pace to be in the top 10 in career FG%.  

ScotsFan

Quote from: almcguirejr on March 09, 2011, 04:10:45 PM
Quote from: HopeConvert on March 09, 2011, 11:30:29 AM


BYU's stance on their honor code last week is quite a contrast to the OSU press conference last night.

OSU has no idea what the term honor code means!

sac

Quote from: HopeConvert on March 09, 2011, 11:30:29 AM


The actual emails, blacked-out government style from WTVN in Columbus.

http://www.610wtvn.com/pages/template/tressels_emails_march2011.pdf



Also this is one of several thousand google hits with weasel + tressel


wiz

Quote from: goodknight on March 09, 2011, 04:30:39 PM
Quote from: realist on March 09, 2011, 02:57:16 PM
Thanks for the link AlwaysH.   I remember him as a Hope player.  The guy never quit.   Over the years I have wished several Calvin players would have had that intensity and desire.


Speaking of guys who never quit.... ::) ::)

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

AlwaysHope

Quote from: realist on March 09, 2011, 02:57:16 PM
Thanks for the link AlwaysH.   I remember him as a Hope player.  The guy never quit.   Over the years I have wished several Calvin players would have had that intensity and desire.


Glad you liked the link.  Mrs. AH, referring to Ryan's intensity while playing at Hope, says that he always played like a "Junkyard Dog," which I would consider a compliment.  Looks like he carried that passion over to coaching.

Did anyone catch the story below about Mitchell Leonard, Wes' 8th grade brother, who again sat on the Fennville bench last night.  After the halftime buzzer he mentioned to Ryan to look at the score.  It was Fennville 35, Bangor 18.  Of course, 35 was Wes' number!  Here's a link to that story.

http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?action=post;quote=1309902;topic=4596.29745;num_replies=29758;sesc=ad2b29748fa77392a649e26539756c76


AlwaysHope

#29526
Another angle to the Fennville tragedy.  I am sure that everyone heard the story about Fennville only introducing four players before tipoff, then the buzzer sounds and Xavier Grigg goes into the game taking Wes' place just before the tipoff.  Xavier does not play well because of his emotions and Ryan has to pull him.  The coach and player are then seen at the end of the bench with Ryan comforting the player, obliviious to what is happening on the court.

Sometime after the above scene Ryan puts Xavier back into the lineup, and he gets 18 points for the team, often putting up three and five fingers for number 35 after each score.  11 of his points were scored in the fourth quarter, to lead his team during crunch time.

Xavier also starts the Wed. game, and leads his team in scoring with 25 points.  The above link shows Xavier coming off the floor in the fourth quarter with both him and his coach smiling.  One of the local stations had the Monday scene with the distraught coach and player, and then the two at the Wed. game smiling with the coach rubbing Xavier's head.  Again, a 180 degree change in emotions.  Hollywood could not write a story like this one:

http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/sw_mich/Will-Fennville-win-another-for-Wes




sac

Thought I might post this here since a few seem to be interested in the Tressel story.

http://blog.pennlive.com/davidjones/2011/03/latest_scandal_proves_tressel.html

It's from David Jones at the Harrisburg Patriot-News, and he's an Ohio State grad.



northb

Quote from: sac on March 10, 2011, 03:19:57 PM
Thought I might post this here since a few seem to be interested in the Tressel story.

http://blog.pennlive.com/davidjones/2011/03/latest_scandal_proves_tressel.html

It's from David Jones at the Harrisburg Patriot-News, and he's an Ohio State grad.




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realist

What is Calvin losing from the 2010-11 team?
4 players.  Rodts, Schnyders, Schuster, and Salo.

These 4 players accounted for 92.7 minutes per ave. game or 46% of p.t.
These 4 players ave. 16 rebounds/g or 40% of team total.
These 4 players made 60 blocks 52% of team total.
These 4 players average 35.4 pt/g or 48% of team total.

"If you are catching flack it means you are over the target".  Brietbart.

ziggy

Quote from: realist on March 11, 2011, 11:02:44 AM
What is Calvin losing from the 2010-11 team?
4 players.  Rodts, Schnyders, Schuster, and Salo.

These 4 players accounted for 92.7 minutes per ave. game or 46% of p.t.
These 4 players ave. 16 rebounds/g or 40% of team total.
These 4 players made 60 blocks 52% of team total.
These 4 players average 35.4 pt/g or 48% of team total.


I haven't gone back to verify but this doesn't strike me as staggering total in a historical context. Maybe I'm wrong.

What will be lost is easily seen in the numbers above but there is also something to be gained. It can't be quantified at this point but I'm sure most Knight fans are excited to see what Jordan Brink can do with an increased roll, the development of Tyler Kruis, consistency/efficiency from Tom Snikkers, etc.

I would never discredit a senior class by saying their contributions can be easily replaced but I don't see a "woe is me" scenario in the numbers above.

big_fella

Quote from: realist on March 11, 2011, 11:02:44 AM
What is Calvin losing from the 2010-11 team?
4 players.  Rodts, Schnyders, Schuster, and Salo.

These 4 players accounted for 92.7 minutes per ave. game or 46% of p.t.
These 4 players ave. 16 rebounds/g or 40% of team total.
These 4 players made 60 blocks 52% of team total.
These 4 players average 35.4 pt/g or 48% of team total.



Do we know what players will be coming in to replace those minutes?  Some will be from underclassman from this year's team or JV team, but do you know of any High School Seniors who are targeting Calvin for their college career?

KnightSlappy

#29532
Quote from: realist on March 11, 2011, 11:02:44 AM
What is Calvin losing from the 2010-11 team?
4 players.  Rodts, Schnyders, Schuster, and Salo.

These 4 players accounted for 92.7 minutes per ave. game or 46% of p.t.
These 4 players ave. 16 rebounds/g or 40% of team total.
These 4 players made 60 blocks 52% of team total.
These 4 players average 35.4 pt/g or 48% of team total.



If we use actual numbers instead of per game averages (Trent missed half the year!), we get these:

Min: 2323 of 5601 or 41.5%
Reb: 432 of 1127 or 38.3%
Blk: 60 of 115 or 52.2%
Pts: 931 of 2081 or 44.7%

Flying Dutch Fan

For comparison, here is what Hope will be losing (basically 3 guys plus the 1/2 game before Venema was injured):

40.0% of the minutes played
36.0% of the teams rebounds
33.9% of the teams blocks
44.2% of the teams points
2016, 2020, 2022 MIAA Pick 'Em Champion

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goodknight

KnightSlappy

Quote from: ziggy on March 11, 2011, 11:24:21 AM
Quote from: realist on March 11, 2011, 11:02:44 AM
What is Calvin losing from the 2010-11 team?
4 players.  Rodts, Schnyders, Schuster, and Salo.

These 4 players accounted for 92.7 minutes per ave. game or 46% of p.t.
These 4 players ave. 16 rebounds/g or 40% of team total.
These 4 players made 60 blocks 52% of team total.
These 4 players average 35.4 pt/g or 48% of team total.


I haven't gone back to verify but this doesn't strike me as staggering total in a historical context. Maybe I'm wrong.

What will be lost is easily seen in the numbers above but there is also something to be gained. It can't be quantified at this point but I'm sure most Knight fans are excited to see what Jordan Brink can do with an increased roll, the development of Tyler Kruis, consistency/efficiency from Tom Snikkers, etc.

I would never discredit a senior class by saying their contributions can be easily replaced but I don't see a "woe is me" scenario in the numbers above.

Just went back to look at last year. Losing Mantel, Veltema, and Campbell, Calvin lost:

Min:   2088   of   5650   or   37.0%
Reb:   425   of   1063   or   40.0%
Blk:   46   of   96   or   47.9%
Pts:   881   of   2051   or   43.0%