MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

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D3hoops posted the All-Great Lakes Region Team:

http://d3hoops.com/awards/all-region/2010-11/greatlakes-men

Congratulations to Michael McClary (First team), Will Bowser (Second team) and Tom Snikkers (Third team).

Well I sure would have like to have seen Coach Neil as a coach of the year recepient  , but hats off to Marietta's coach.

What are the chances a combination, one, or none of our MIAA players are named All-Americans? I guess it all depends on D3 hoops selection criteria. In my opinion McClary and Bowser should be considered locks for All-Americans this year, and Snikkers probably a future prospect.

With that being said, go Cornerstone! A national championship is nothing short of amazing for the Golden Eagles!

My gut tells me that anyone not named to an all-region first team won't be considered for an all-american designation

I disagree, Ziggy. Bowser was named second team all-region this year because his spot was probably taken by Ian Franks- player of the year from Wooster, or Wes Smith who averaged 22 pg from Wabash. A second-team forward from the Great Lakes may be a better option from an all-region first-team forward from the mid-atlantic, west, midwest, or what have you.

I was just doing a little clicking and noticed somehow Bunn was named first team all-region last year. Now how can Bunn who statistically had a significantly inferior season to Bowser, and whose team did not play as well in the NCAA - tournament, nor win the regular season MIAA championship be named first-team, and Bowser who did all those things this year be named second team?

Its because the strength of the region in the Great Lakes, in the guard or forward position is probably significantly up this year compared to last.

I didn't say it wouldn't happen but saying he should be considered a "lock" is pretty strong (read: wrong).

[Knightmare]

May be of interest to those on this board.  Saw that the Cornerstone Men's national championship basketball game will be shown live on CBS College Sports TV station tonight at 10pm (EST).  Also airing right before that is the Davenport women's championship game.

That is channel 613 on DirecTV (not sure what other providers channel # is).

[Flying Dutch Fan]

May be of interest to those on this board.  Saw that the Cornerstone Men's national championship basketball game will be shown live on CBS College Sports TV station tonight at 10pm (EST).  Also airing right before that is the Davenport women's championship game.

That is channel 613 on DirecTV (not sure what other providers channel # is).

Alas, Charter does not carry CBS College Sports TV   

[DewCrewVett]

As some of you know, this 'hopefan' moved away from Western Michigan long ago... down to SLIAC land in St Louis....  I was able to see Hope only at the Augie weekend.
I can only say that as Will Bowser did not make first team all region, the guys who did make first team must be VERY good... Will just impressed me 100%.....  

The radio certainly made it sound like he was the best player on the floor against a more athletic, bigger, and stronger Augie team. It sounded like they rotated defenders on him all night and that wouldn't stop him from scoring 29.

Cornerstone was an amazing team years ago, but someone with some knowledge of NAIA Div. II refresh my memory on the level of competition. What would NAIA D2 compare to upper-level D3 teams.

[Knightmare]

May be of interest to those on this board.  Saw that the Cornerstone Men's national championship basketball game will be shown live on CBS College Sports TV station tonight at 10pm (EST).  Also airing right before that is the Davenport women's championship game.

That is channel 613 on DirecTV (not sure what other providers channel # is).

Alas, Charter does not carry CBS College Sports TV   

Time to get a dish  (I've been very happy with DirecTV)

[sflzman]

May be of interest to those on this board.  Saw that the Cornerstone Men's national championship basketball game will be shown live on CBS College Sports TV station tonight at 10pm (EST).  Also airing right before that is the Davenport women's championship game.

That is channel 613 on DirecTV (not sure what other providers channel # is).

Alas, Charter does not carry CBS College Sports TV   

Time to get a dish  (I've been very happy with DirecTV)

Ditto! Price wise is better than Charter too.....

The one down side is the occasional wind storms here in Alma because there's nothing to knock down the wind here. I'm sure the wind isn't much problem in populated areas....

[Knightmare]

May be of interest to those on this board.  Saw that the Cornerstone Men's national championship basketball game will be shown live on CBS College Sports TV station tonight at 10pm (EST).  Also airing right before that is the Davenport women's championship game.

That is channel 613 on DirecTV (not sure what other providers channel # is).

Alas, Charter does not carry CBS College Sports TV  

Time to get a dish   (I've been very happy with DirecTV)

Ditto! Price wise is better than Charter too.....

The one down side is the occasional wind storms here in Alma because there's nothing to knock down the wind here. I'm sure the wind isn't much problem in populated areas....

Also, don't believe all the media hype about losing a signal in bad storms either with a dish (at least with DirecTv, I can't testify regarding Dish Network).  In my 7-8 years with DirecTv in Traverse City I think I've lost my signal for longer than 10 seconds one time total and the under 10 second signal loses I could count on one hand.  Very reliable.

[Civic Minded]

May be of interest to those on this board.  Saw that the Cornerstone Men's national championship basketball game will be shown live on CBS College Sports TV station tonight at 10pm (EST).  Also airing right before that is the Davenport women's championship game.

That is channel 613 on DirecTV (not sure what other providers channel # is).

Alas, Charter does not carry CBS College Sports TV  

Time to get a dish   (I've been very happy with DirecTV)

Ditto! Price wise is better than Charter too.....

The one down side is the occasional wind storms here in Alma because there's nothing to knock down the wind here. I'm sure the wind isn't much problem in populated areas....

Also, don't believe all the media hype about losing a signal in bad storms either with a dish (at least with DirecTv, I can't testify regarding Dish Network).  In my 7-8 years with DirecTv in Traverse City I think I've lost my signal for longer than 10 seconds one time total and the under 10 second signal loses I could count on one hand.  Very reliable.

Not sure about hype, but here in beautiful Holland, MI I have an awful lot of friends with unhappy children whenever it rains  or snows hard.  Not sure whether they are Dish or DirecTV customers.

[sac]

This was passed on to me today......

The NABC released its all-region men's basketball teams this afternoon ... Bowser and McClary are first-team selections, with McClary being named the Great Lakes Region Player of the Year.


http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/nabc/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/D3All-District2011.pdf

[oldknight]

Northwestern (IA) women avenge their only loss of the season, beating Davenport in the NAIA championship game 88-83 to repeat as national champs. Next up is the men's final featuring Cornerstone against defending champion Saint Francis (IN).

[realist]

As some of you know, this 'hopefan' moved away from Western Michigan long ago... down to SLIAC land in St Louis....  I was able to see Hope only at the Augie weekend.
I can only say that as Will Bowser did not make first team all region, the guys who did make first team must be VERY good... Will just impressed me 100%.....  

The radio certainly made it sound like he was the best player on the floor against a more athletic, bigger, and stronger Augie team. It sounded like they rotated defenders on him all night and that wouldn't stop him from scoring 29.

Cornerstone was an amazing team years ago, but someone with some knowledge of NAIA Div. II refresh my memory on the level of competition. What would NAIA D2 compare to upper-level D3 teams.

In 1999 when CU won the NAIA 2 title one of the 3 teams to beat them was Calvin.   IMO it varies a bit year to year, but NAIA 2,and D3 are pretty competitive against one another.  The NAIA starts a bit earlier in the fall, and by the time NCAA 3 teams are playing them they have 6-7 game experience.  This year Calvin beat CU in the HOF, and CU beat Hope you can draw your own conclusion as to what that means.

[Gregory Sager]

As some of you know, this 'hopefan' moved away from Western Michigan long ago... down to SLIAC land in St Louis....  I was able to see Hope only at the Augie weekend.
I can only say that as Will Bowser did not make first team all region, the guys who did make first team must be VERY good... Will just impressed me 100%.....  

The radio certainly made it sound like he was the best player on the floor against a more athletic, bigger, and stronger Augie team. It sounded like they rotated defenders on him all night and that wouldn't stop him from scoring 29.

Cornerstone was an amazing team years ago, but someone with some knowledge of NAIA Div. II refresh my memory on the level of competition. What would NAIA D2 compare to upper-level D3 teams.

In 1999 when CU won the NAIA 2 title one of the 3 teams to beat them was Calvin.   IMO it varies a bit year to year, but NAIA 2,and D3 are pretty competitive against one another.  The NAIA starts a bit earlier in the fall, and by the time NCAA 3 teams are playing them they have 6-7 game experience.  This year Calvin beat CU in the HOF, and CU beat Hope you can draw your own conclusion as to what that means.

Several regular posters, most notably Rhodes Scholar and Hopefan, have tallied D3's interdivisional games over the past several years. NAIA-1 consistently beats D3 head-to-head, while D3 has beaten NAIA-2 head-to-head in all but one season, IIRC.

The consensus is that the top teams in NAIA-2 are as good as the teams at the top of D3, but that D3 has more depth (not just in terms of quantity, but quality as well).

[realist]

CU 80 St. Francis 71.  Good job Golden Eagles.

[gohope]

What are YOUR thoughts?

Whose Dance Card has been punched for the Final Four in the Big Dance???

[KnightSlappy]

What are YOUR thoughts?

Whose Dance Card has been punched for the Final Four in the Big Dance???

I had UWSP, Whitworth, Williams, and Middlebury.

UWSP and Whitworth are out, but I still have my champion Middlebury in the mix!