MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[Erm Schmigget]

With only 10 points to go, David Krombeen should be the next Dutchman to add his name to the list of those with at least 1000 career points, today against the Comets.  Peter Bunn currently sits at the #30 spot on the list, surpassing Matt Strong's 1027 points by 1 earlier this week.  Looking at the list on Hope's website ( http://www.hope.edu/pr/athletics/mbb/mbbscore.html ) you'll see several names that accomplished this feat in only 3 seasons (including Matt Strong).  Add Peter to that short list, as his 2008-12 career would include last season, when he was out for the entire season.  Pretty impressive, Mr. Bunn.

[Titan Q]

Just FYI, the IWU/Hope game in 2012-13 (next season) will be at a tournament in Orlando.

[KnightSlappy]

KS:  Your using the lipstick of "only the MIAA games have real meaning" on the pig that is KVS's record does nothing to obscure the fact his recent record isn't that impressive.  None of the top programs in D3 are there winning only 47% of their pre-conference games, and they aren't there because they win only 61% of the games they play. ( I don't care how good their conference records might be).

What I'm doing is taking the most static portion of the schedule for better comparison. Relative to the conference, Calvin's overall performance was pretty much the same in those two five-year stretches.

If you really want to convince me, what you'd do is take a look at each non-con opponent (selecting your endpoints before you analyze the data) and show what Calvin's record really was, and make reasonable arguments for what it should be against each opponent. It would provide some context to your non-con argument.

The record against Wheaton is bad, and they seem to do poorer than expected during Christmas break. It would be interesting to see what you find.

I am not trying to convince you or anyone else of anything.  I am merely reporting on Calvin's non conference performance which was 25-28 or 47% for the last 5 seasons.  IMO that performance record stinks, and should not be considered acceptable.  The same goes for the 61% winning record (including the MIAA games) during that same time frame.

What should Calvin's overall winning percentage be?

[ziggy]

KS:  Your using the lipstick of "only the MIAA games have real meaning" on the pig that is KVS's record does nothing to obscure the fact his recent record isn't that impressive.  None of the top programs in D3 are there winning only 47% of their pre-conference games, and they aren't there because they win only 61% of the games they play. ( I don't care how good their conference records might be).

What I'm doing is taking the most static portion of the schedule for better comparison. Relative to the conference, Calvin's overall performance was pretty much the same in those two five-year stretches.

If you really want to convince me, what you'd do is take a look at each non-con opponent (selecting your endpoints before you analyze the data) and show what Calvin's record really was, and make reasonable arguments for what it should be against each opponent. It would provide some context to your non-con argument.

The record against Wheaton is bad, and they seem to do poorer than expected during Christmas break. It would be interesting to see what you find.

I am not trying to convince you or anyone else of anything.  I am merely reporting on Calvin's non conference performance which was 25-28 or 47% for the last 5 seasons.  IMO that performance record stinks, and should not be considered acceptable.  The same goes for the 61% winning record (including the MIAA games) during that same time frame. 
25 non conference wins, and 28 non conference losses is the Calvin record.  If you can take some comfort by doing multiple calculations thereby proving that Calvin beats the teams it should beat, and only lost to teams it should have lost to knock yourself out.  The reocrd still is 25-28, and is still unacceptable.
I just find 25-28 to be offensive, unjustifable, and inexcuseable.  I long ago accepted the fact KVS is an "average" at best coach.  I have also made peace with the fact that Pres. Byker is his patron "saint".  I don't like it, don't think it is right, but at least I know it is what it is.
Hopefully once Dr. Le Roy arrives on campus he will take an objective look at all the sports programs, and ask some hard questions. 
IMO KVS is going to be under serious pressure to produce next year 2012-2013.  I don't think many Calvin people find either, 5-6 non conference or, 16-12 season records acceptable.  Next year won't be the first time he has had better than average talent ( a concensus of Calvin posters [KS included]) in the last 5 years.  He couldn't produce good results than, and I don't see any changes that would give me reason to believe he will next year.

KVS will have a golden opportunity to prove me wrong.  It won't erase the 5 seasons Calvin has suffered through, but will buy him some time to keep a job which he no longer seems passionate about.  I am amazed how similar KVS's post game, and other media comments sound like those of individuals, I have known over the years, that were experiencing job burn out.
The classic has to be the comment he made the other day that "his varsity struggles to beat the jv".  WHO pray tell is responsible for that!!!!

The solution to the poor non-con record is very simple so why don't you just say it? Calvin needs to schedule mid-level to weak d3 opponents rather than playing against scholarship athletes and schools like Whitworth. Then they'll have a better record and you'll be happy, right?

[sac]

Just FYI, the IWU/Hope game in 2012-13 (next season) will be at a tournament in Orlando.

I'm sure this is the same venue that the Hope men and women have been alternating traveling to for the last 4 or 5 yeas.

RDV Sportsplex in Orlando, not exactly fan friendly from what I hear.    http://www.mvpsportsclubs.com/florida-orlando-rdv-sportsplex-athletic-club


Hope played Roanoke and Elmhurst there in 2008.  Last year Dominican and Lake Forest.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

So while playing IWU wil be sweet, those games are not in region, correct?  I see the distance between the schools is right around 250 miles.

[Pat Coleman]

For those of you that haven't seen it, Matt Neil was on Hoopsville last night. Among topics he addressed were the rivalry, running the table in the MIAA, and the work he is trying to do in scheduling. Very interesting interview. Starts around the 20 minute mark.

http://www.d3hoops.com/hoopsville/archives/2011-12/jan19

The schedule arguments provide nothing new that hasn't been pointed out by myself or any number of people on this board and a former coach on that very show ad nauseum for oh.....I don't know 12 years. 

But the rest of D3nation doesn't live these questions every year. I know it's nothing new to you guys but it is relevant nonetheless.

I was heartened to hear KVS asking questions on the webinar presentation the NCAA men's basketball national committee put on over the summer regarding scheduling and how it affects at-large selection. Hope more coaches take advantage of these types of opportunities when they are afforded them.

[Pat Coleman]

It's true IWU and Hope will be non-region barring a change in definition but when you get down to the end of the Pool C discussion, I believe every game is on the table. Regardless, that's a great series and it's good for D-III!

[Flying Dutch Fan]

It's true IWU and Hope will be non-region barring a change in definition but when you get down to the end of the Pool C discussion, I believe every game is on the table. Regardless, that's a great series and it's good for D-III!

Agree 1000%.

On a side note, it looks like Hope has a new website, althouhg not every area has moved over yet - home page is new, atletics page is new, but underneath not yet updated.  FWIW, I like the new look so far.

http://hope.edu/

[Flying Dutch Fan]

No rivalry hangover for the Knights as they take it to Trine 78-51 in what was a close game at the half 29-23.

Albion leading Alma by 1 with 2 1/2 to play.

UPDATE #1: Albion got the lead to 6 with a minute to go, but Alma hits a 3, steals the ball and makes a 2.  Ablion makes 1-2 FT, another layup by Alma, and it's tied with 7 seconds left - now headed to OT.


Adrian up 12 on K with 1 1/2  to play

UPDATE: Adrian wins this one 56-45.

[sac]

Calvin 78 Trine 51

This gives Hope the opportunity to open a 2 game lead tonight.

[sac]

Albion/Alma heading to Overtime, there's a video link on miaa.org but I wasn't able to get it to work


http://www.albion.edu/sports/stats/xlive.htm

[sac]

Adrian 56 Kzoo 45

Today's results may keep Kzoo in the hunt for the tournament but just barely, they lost an opportunity today I think.

K:  Fishman 14
Adrian:  Whitby 15

[hoopdreams]

with :11 to go.....Congrats Alma!!! Huge win  over Albion........please don't blow this

[sac]

Alma 80  Albion 74  OT

Alma made 3 big 3's in the overtime and Albion just couldn't make up the deficit.   The Britons actually made a great run in the final minute to force Alma to make FT's, Cory Schneider knocked them both down and then Sheridan added a couple more for good measure.   This is a major loss for Albion, you can't lose at home and you can't lose at home to a team that will probably miss the tournament.  Great win for Alma.

Albion:  Kazan 27, Smith 12, Ridgell 10
Alma:  Krause 17, Scneider 16,  Erickson 13, Sheridan 10