MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[Flying Dutch Fan]

A quick look at Westminster's roster shows they are not going to match up well at all size wise.  Westminster only has 1 player 6'5" tall. This looks like a great game to start off a tournament run.

Starting with a SLIAC team is always good.  Long-time IWU coach Denny Bridges (in his memoir) rather impolitely, but accurately, referred to SLIAC tourney opponents as 'speed bumps'.

Guessing we will see you in Holland this weekend?

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Quick comparison of Hope and Westminster.  I'll do something similar for UWSP and IWU later.

Offense	% 2pt	% 3pt	% FT
Hope	55.2	35	69.9
Westminster	44.4	35.4	71.3
Defense	% 2pt	% 3pt
Hope	42.1	31.5
Westminster	43.2	35
Rebounding	Team	Opp	Margin
Hope	37.9	32.8	5.1
Westminster	34.1	33.7	0.4
Scoring	Team	Opp	Margin
Hope	79	64.5	14.5
Westminster	65.3	64.1	1.2
3 point shooting	Attempts	Made	Made/game
Hope	317	111	4.1
Westminster	429	152	5.6
Blocks	Total	per game
Hope	137	5.1
Westminster	51	1.9
Steals	Total	per game
Hope	268	9.9
Westminster	193	7.1
Turnovers	Total	per game
Hope	386	14.3
Westminster	329	12.2
Assists	Total	per game
Hope	476	17.6
Westminster	284	10.5
Assist/Turnover
Hope	1.23
Westminster	0.86
Efficiency	Offense	Defense	Difference
Hope	114.91	93.82	21.09
Westminster	103.08	101.17	1.91

[ziggy]

On the edge of the bubble? Everyone has a claim there.

I'm not a WPI fan but I'm upset. They have as legitimate of a gripe as I've seen.

[Mr. Ypsi]

A quick look at Westminster's roster shows they are not going to match up well at all size wise.  Westminster only has 1 player 6'5" tall. This looks like a great game to start off a tournament run.

Starting with a SLIAC team is always good.  Long-time IWU coach Denny Bridges (in his memoir) rather impolitely, but accurately, referred to SLIAC tourney opponents as 'speed bumps'.

Guessing we will see you in Holland this weekend?

Barring horrid weather or a family emergency, I'm planning on it (as is iwumichigander).

Your first game should be a whole lot easier than ours!  I HOPE we meet in the second game!

[sac]

Quick comparison of Hope and Westminster.  I'll do something similar for UWSP and IWU later.

Efficiency [/b]	Offense	Defense	Difference
Hope	114.91	93.82	21.09
Westminster	103.08	101.17	1.91

I love to see people embrace efficiency, but you and I must be using different formulas.

[monsoon]

This will be a fun weekend.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Quick comparison of Hope and Westminster.  I'll do something similar for UWSP and IWU later.

Efficiency [/b]	Offense	Defense	Difference
Hope	114.91	93.82	21.09
Westminster	103.08	101.17	1.91

I love to see people embrace efficiency, but you and I must be using different formulas.

Here is what I am using

Possessions = 0.96 x (FGA - Off Reb + TO + (0.44 x FTA))

Divide pts by possessions x 100 = efficiency

[iwumichigander]

A quick look at Westminster's roster shows they are not going to match up well at all size wise.  Westminster only has 1 player 6'5" tall. This looks like a great game to start off a tournament run.

Starting with a SLIAC team is always good.  Long-time IWU coach Denny Bridges (in his memoir) rather impolitely, but accurately, referred to SLIAC tourney opponents as 'speed bumps'.

Without looking up the exact number; the SLIAC entry has never won an NCAA post season tournament game.

[goodknight]

Maybe Calvin could do Hope a favor and scrimmage Westminster this Wednesday, just to soften them up a little.

[KnightSlappy]

Quick comparison of Hope and Westminster.  I'll do something similar for UWSP and IWU later.

Efficiency [/b]	Offense	Defense	Difference
Hope	114.91	93.82	21.09
Westminster	103.08	101.17	1.91

I love to see people embrace efficiency, but you and I must be using different formulas.

Here is what I am using

Possessions = 0.96 x (FGA - Off Reb + TO + (0.44 x FTA))

Divide pts by possessions x 100 = efficiency

I think sac and I both use

Possessions = FGA - OReb + TO + (.475 x FTA)

[hopefan]

As some of you regulars know, I was a hope fan in the 80's  (yes, Matt Neil was a favorite player of mine), and I got relocated to St Louis in 1987... (had to give up prime Hope season tickets).   Anyway, I'm now a huge supporter of SLIAC hoops - no particular team - and write quite a bit in the SLIAC room here on D3hoops.  I'll give you a complete writeup on the Westmin team in another day or two, but you may find interesting what I posted to the Westmin team and fans after learning about the first round matchup....

as always 'Go HOPE'   (just take it easy on my Westmin boys )

[HopeConvert]

Maybe Calvin could do Hope a favor and scrimmage Westminster this Wednesday, just to soften them up a little.

And breach the iron curtain?

[sac]

Quick comparison of Hope and Westminster.  I'll do something similar for UWSP and IWU later.

Efficiency [/b]	Offense	Defense	Difference
Hope	114.91	93.82	21.09
Westminster	103.08	101.17	1.91

I love to see people embrace efficiency, but you and I must be using different formulas.

Here is what I am using

Possessions = 0.96 x (FGA - Off Reb + TO + (0.44 x FTA))

Divide pts by possessions x 100 = efficiency

I think sac and I both use

Possessions = FGA - OReb + TO + (.475 x FTA)

Yes this is what I use.    The .96 and .44 that FDF is using raises the efficiency number up a little bit.


Trying to find an MIAA team to put them on par with.  Offensively, a little better than Kalamazoo and Albion.  Defensively, maybe a Trine.

But Westminster has played a far weaker schedule than anyone in the MIAA.....by a lot.

[hopefan]

A quick look at Westminster's roster shows they are not going to match up well at all size wise.  Westminster only has 1 player 6'5" tall. This looks like a great game to start off a tournament run.

Starting with a SLIAC team is always good.  Long-time IWU coach Denny Bridges (in his memoir) rather impolitely, but accurately, referred to SLIAC tourney opponents as 'speed bumps'.

Without looking up the exact number; the SLIAC entry has never won an NCAA post season tournament game.

That is correct... however let me give you one or two points about that..
Unfortunately, the SLIAC has ALMOST always been a bottom seed, faced with the challenge of playing a top seed on their home court....  tough to win wherever you get sent..(in recent years IWU, Wheaton, Mississippi College, Wash U a couple of times)
The ONE time the SLIAC earned a 3 seed, several years ago, making for a neutral court game, the SLIAC rep, Fontbonne, lost by only a couple to Mary Hardin Baylor at Milsaps.
Also.. the closest game on the 1 seed's court by a SLIAC team was just two years ago... when WESTMINSTER lost by only 7 to Wash U....
And so,  There's always HOPE!!!!

[sac]

As some of you regulars know, I was a hope fan in the 80's  (yes, Matt Neil was a favorite player of mine), and I got relocated to St Louis in 1987... (had to give up prime Hope season tickets).   Anyway, I'm now a huge supporter of SLIAC hoops - no particular team - and write quite a bit in the SLIAC room here on D3hoops.  I'll give you a complete writeup on the Westmin team in another day or two, but you may find interesting what I posted to the Westmin team and fans after learning about the first round matchup....

as always 'Go HOPE'   (just take it easy on my Westmin boys )

I immediately thought of you when I saw the bracket.  Sorry you won't be able to make it.