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John Gleich

Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 28, 2012, 11:08:39 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on February 28, 2012, 10:07:25 PM
This from last week...

http://www.stevenspointjournal.com/article/20120223/SPJ02/202230532/College-basketball-Pointers-men-ride-defense-into-WIAC-tourney-semis


"Tyler Tillema missed his second consecutive game with a thumb injury. His status for Friday's tournament semifinal remains day-to-day"

... which raises an interesting question as to whether the UWSP basketball and/or training staffs are actually holding out hope for Tillema's return, or if they're merely in CYA mode.

I almost wonder if it would be CYA mode... it seems like it would be more effective from a trickeration standpoint to say he's done... and then to have him play... than to say he might play (making Point a much better team and a viable tournament team at that) and have him be done (making Point a very incomplete team... that likely wouldn't have made the tournament without Ty).
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oldknight

Tip of the hat to KS who has on his blog a summary of expected changes with the D3 selection process.

http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/2012/02/big-changes-coming-for-division-iii.htm

There also happens to be a worthy back and forth on the Pool C board involving some of D3hoops' most respected posters, and you might be interested in their back and forth on the NCAA's regional set-up system.

ziggy

Quote from: oldknight on February 29, 2012, 09:08:36 AM
Tip of the hat to KS who has on his blog a summary of expected changes with the D3 selection process.

http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/2012/02/big-changes-coming-for-division-iii.htm

There also happens to be a worthy back and forth on the Pool C board involving some of D3hoops' most respected posters, and you might be interested in their back and forth on the NCAA's regional set-up system.

throw an "l" on the end of that url and y'all will be golden.

All four games of the CCIW-MIAA challenge will count in the primary criteria!

KnightSlappy

Quote from: ziggy on February 29, 2012, 09:28:38 AM
Quote from: oldknight on February 29, 2012, 09:08:36 AM
Tip of the hat to KS who has on his blog a summary of expected changes with the D3 selection process.

http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/2012/02/big-changes-coming-for-division-iii.html

There also happens to be a worthy back and forth on the Pool C board involving some of D3hoops' most respected posters, and you might be interested in their back and forth on the NCAA's regional set-up system.

throw an "l" on the end of that url and y'all will be golden.

All four games of the CCIW-MIAA challenge will count in the primary criteria!

To accommodate the 70% vs. in-region rule, Calvin will need to find a minimum of three regional games in the eleven non-conference contests. Sounds easy, but it won't be if the Knights wish to maintain a game against Grace, the GRSHOF, the MIAA-CCIW, a game against Trinity Christian, and a Holiday Trip. That's 8 games that were, this year at least, all out-of region.

ziggy

Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 29, 2012, 09:39:20 AM
Quote from: ziggy on February 29, 2012, 09:28:38 AM
Quote from: oldknight on February 29, 2012, 09:08:36 AM
Tip of the hat to KS who has on his blog a summary of expected changes with the D3 selection process.

http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/2012/02/big-changes-coming-for-division-iii.html

There also happens to be a worthy back and forth on the Pool C board involving some of D3hoops' most respected posters, and you might be interested in their back and forth on the NCAA's regional set-up system.

throw an "l" on the end of that url and y'all will be golden.

All four games of the CCIW-MIAA challenge will count in the primary criteria!

To accommodate the 70% vs. in-region rule, Calvin will need to find a minimum of three regional games in the eleven non-conference contests. Sounds easy, but it won't be if the Knights wish to maintain a game against Grace, the GRSHOF, the MIAA-CCIW, a game against Trinity Christian, and a Holiday Trip. That's 8 games that were, this year at least, all out-of region.

Finlandia will need to add in-region games assuming they are interested in hitting the 70% target. I wonder if they will become a regular part of Calvin's schedule in the future. Perhaps the Knights could work out a two games here-one game there agreement (I believe a KVS post-game interview revealed a return trip is already scheduled for next season).

I don't see the MIAA-CCIW Classic going anywhere as it take on more significance under the new rules. Perhaps the holiday trip takes on an alternating schedule of visiting in-region sites and Dutch enclaves. Defiance and Wooster have been destinations in the past so it's a reasonable suggestion.

To me the most obvious scheduling casualty is the Trinity game. It is neither local nor of NCAA significance. Swap it for North Park.

I'd like to see Calvin guarantee themselves an in-region game in the Tip-Off Tourney, whether that means bringing in two in-region teams or moving Grace to the early game on Friday.

sac

unless the "in-region" definition changes, this will do very little to improve the ease of getting in-region games on the MIAA schedules.  This is even more unfair to conferences with fewer teams than the bigger conferences like the OAC and NCAC etc.

Good luck Sam Hargraves with your schedule and travel budget by the way.


For Hope and Calvin I imagine this signals the end of the GR Hall of Fame Classic.

Mr. Ypsi

ziggy, I'm pretty sure Finlandia got reclassified as West Region a couple of years ago.

sac

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 29, 2012, 10:09:02 AM
ziggy, I'm pretty sure Finlandia got reclassified as West Region a couple of years ago.

Finlandia is still part of our administrative region, so nothing really changes for them.

Knight2Day

Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 29, 2012, 09:39:20 AM
Quote from: ziggy on February 29, 2012, 09:28:38 AM
Quote from: oldknight on February 29, 2012, 09:08:36 AM
Tip of the hat to KS who has on his blog a summary of expected changes with the D3 selection process.

http://tomaroonandgold.blogspot.com/2012/02/big-changes-coming-for-division-iii.html

There also happens to be a worthy back and forth on the Pool C board involving some of D3hoops' most respected posters, and you might be interested in their back and forth on the NCAA's regional set-up system.

throw an "l" on the end of that url and y'all will be golden.

All four games of the CCIW-MIAA challenge will count in the primary criteria!

To accommodate the 70% vs. in-region rule, Calvin will need to find a minimum of three regional games in the eleven non-conference contests. Sounds easy, but it won't be if the Knights wish to maintain a game against Grace, the GRSHOF, the MIAA-CCIW, a game against Trinity Christian, and a Holiday Trip. That's 8 games that were, this year at least, all out-of region.

Does this mean we are going to ditch the meaningless game vs Trinity? Maybe play a few in region opponents for change?

HopeConvert

Quote from: sac on February 29, 2012, 10:03:28 AM
unless the "in-region" definition changes, this will do very little to improve the ease of getting in-region games on the MIAA schedules.  This is even more unfair to conferences with fewer teams than the bigger conferences like the OAC and NCAC etc.

Good luck Sam Hargraves with your schedule and travel budget by the way.


For Hope and Calvin I imagine this signals the end of the GR Hall of Fame Classic.

Hopefully to be replaced by one with the NCAC.
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ziggy

Quote from: sac on February 29, 2012, 10:13:31 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 29, 2012, 10:09:02 AM
ziggy, I'm pretty sure Finlandia got reclassified as West Region a couple of years ago.

Finlandia is still part of our administrative region, so nothing really changes for them.

Not even the NCAA is insane enough to split the peninsulas into separate administrative regions!

Flying Dutch Fan

Quote from: ziggy on February 29, 2012, 10:58:06 AM
Quote from: sac on February 29, 2012, 10:13:31 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 29, 2012, 10:09:02 AM
ziggy, I'm pretty sure Finlandia got reclassified as West Region a couple of years ago.

Finlandia is still part of our administrative region, so nothing really changes for them.

Not even the NCAA is insane enough to split the peninsulas into separate administrative regions!

Nothing like tempting fate -  "he hasn't missed a free throw in over..."   BRICK
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sac

Hope is going to need to consider ditching the Holland Sentinel tournament or moving the date.  Its already on a weekend when the NCAC/OAC/HCAC/NATHCON have started conference play.  That tournament has pretty much been impossible to draw D3 teams to Holland, let alone regional ones

In 12 tournaments only 2 D3 teams and none since the 04-05 season.  UW-Whitewater and North Central are the only two D3's to play on those dates.

Quote from: HopeConvert on February 29, 2012, 10:28:09 AM
Hopefully to be replaced by one with the NCAC.

Have also been hearing this for a couple years, still nothing.......and the HofF has been the "last one" about 5 times now.

KnightSlappy

Quote from: Flying Dutch Fan on February 29, 2012, 11:02:29 AM
Quote from: ziggy on February 29, 2012, 10:58:06 AM
Quote from: sac on February 29, 2012, 10:13:31 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 29, 2012, 10:09:02 AM
ziggy, I'm pretty sure Finlandia got reclassified as West Region a couple of years ago.

Finlandia is still part of our administrative region, so nothing really changes for them.

Not even the NCAA is insane enough to split the peninsulas into separate administrative regions!

Nothing like tempting fate -  "he hasn't missed a free throw in over..."   BRICK

A great example of confirmation bias!

ChicagoHopeNut

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Like Calvin, Hope will need more in region games though if MIAA tourney does not count. Hope is fortunate that Wheaton counts but I'd love to see Hope ditch HoF for at least one more in-region game. Then rotate with Grace/Cornerstone over two years for the other game.
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