MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[sac]

Just thought I'd put that out there. I'll be really interested to see how the boys quarterfinal will draw. Especially if Sparta won tonight against Muskegon heights. There is talk of 1000+ and a chance to set an attendance record at that gym

It will be Cadillac vs Muskegon Heights.

Also, Class B #1 Lansing Sexton only won their regional final by 49 tonight.  82-33.  Their avg margin of victory in their 5 tournament games is 32.0 points per game.  In order  45-34-10-22-49

[sac]

Bellaire and Muskegon Catholic Central will play at Hope College in a Class D Quarterfinal.

[Knight2Day]

Ernie Ziegler fired at CMU today. 
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2012/3/14/2870979/ernie-ziegler-fired-central-michigan-basketball

...and WOTS is that Ricky Shilts (JV and varsity assistant at Calvin) was let go last week.

Seriously?  That seems like a shame.  Nice guy, seemed like a good coach.  I'm sure there's more to the story, but if this is true, it makes me sad.   

Terrible. Just terrible. Fired the only guy in the program who played at a high level. Congrats Kevin.

[arena]

Ernie Ziegler fired at CMU today. 
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2012/3/14/2870979/ernie-ziegler-fired-central-michigan-basketball

...and WOTS is that Ricky Shilts (JV and varsity assistant at Calvin) was let go last week.

Seriously?  That seems like a shame.  Nice guy, seemed like a good coach.  I'm sure there's more to the story, but if this is true, it makes me sad.   

Terrible. Just terrible. Fired the only guy in the program who played at a high level. Congrats Kevin.

Bad move if true.  Like to here an official story though. 

[oldknight]

Ernie Ziegler fired at CMU today. 
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2012/3/14/2870979/ernie-ziegler-fired-central-michigan-basketball

...and WOTS is that Ricky Shilts (JV and varsity assistant at Calvin) was let go last week.

Seriously?  That seems like a shame.  Nice guy, seemed like a good coach.  I'm sure there's more to the story, but if this is true, it makes me sad.   

Terrible. Just terrible. Fired the only guy in the program who played at a high level. Congrats Kevin.

Bad move if true.  Like to here an official story though.

It's true; Ricky was let go. This is a headscratcher to more than a few Knights fans, that's for sure.

[Knight2Day]

Ernie Ziegler fired at CMU today. 
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2012/3/14/2870979/ernie-ziegler-fired-central-michigan-basketball

...and WOTS is that Ricky Shilts (JV and varsity assistant at Calvin) was let go last week.

Seriously?  That seems like a shame.  Nice guy, seemed like a good coach.  I'm sure there's more to the story, but if this is true, it makes me sad.   

Terrible. Just terrible. Fired the only guy in the program who played at a high level. Congrats Kevin.

Bad move if true.  Like to here an official story though.

It's true; Ricky was let go. This is a headscratcher to more than a few Knights fans, that's for sure.

I know that more than a few players used Ricky as a confidant when they were having rough points instead of talking to KVS because they identified better with a younger coach who recently graduated and KVS laid into him more than once during games for "talking to his players" so maybe that had something to do with it?

[hopefan]

Ernie Ziegler fired at CMU today. 
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2012/3/14/2870979/ernie-ziegler-fired-central-michigan-basketball

...and WOTS is that Ricky Shilts (JV and varsity assistant at Calvin) was let go last week.

Seriously?  That seems like a shame.  Nice guy, seemed like a good coach.  I'm sure there's more to the story, but if this is true, it makes me sad.   

Terrible. Just terrible. Fired the only guy in the program who played at a high level. Congrats Kevin.

Bad move if true.  Like to here an official story though.

It's true; Ricky was let go. This is a headscratcher to more than a few Knights fans, that's for sure.

I know that more than a few players used Ricky as a confidant when they were having rough points instead of talking to KVS because they identified better with a younger coach who recently graduated and KVS laid into him more than once during games for "talking to his players" so maybe that had something to do with it?

For talking to his players??? Isn't that what Assistant Coaches are supposed to do, to keep the guys on the bench into the game?   I'm FAR away from the situation, but VERY hard to understand... hope you guys can research further.....

[SBell]

David Krombeen NABC first-team All-American.

[sac]

Other NABC First teamers from the MIAA

2000--Aaron Winkle, Calvin
2005--Travis DuPree, Albion
2006--Brandon Crawford, Albion
2008--Marcus Vanderheide, Hope
2011--Michael McClary, Olivet
2012--David Krombeen, Hope


Jeremy Veenstra, Calvin 2nd team 2002
Stephen Cramer, Hope 3rd team 2007.
Jesse Reimink, Hope 2nd team 2009

The rest of the Hope and Calvin players to earn NABC honors can be found here.....although it looks like it hasn't been updated since 2007
http://www.nabc.org/awards/all_america/division_II/school

[Knight2Day]

Ernie Ziegler fired at CMU today. 
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-basketball/2012/3/14/2870979/ernie-ziegler-fired-central-michigan-basketball

...and WOTS is that Ricky Shilts (JV and varsity assistant at Calvin) was let go last week.

Seriously?  That seems like a shame.  Nice guy, seemed like a good coach.  I'm sure there's more to the story, but if this is true, it makes me sad.   

Terrible. Just terrible. Fired the only guy in the program who played at a high level. Congrats Kevin.

Bad move if true.  Like to here an official story though.

It's true; Ricky was let go. This is a headscratcher to more than a few Knights fans, that's for sure.

I know that more than a few players used Ricky as a confidant when they were having rough points instead of talking to KVS because they identified better with a younger coach who recently graduated and KVS laid into him more than once during games for "talking to his players" so maybe that had something to do with it?

For talking to his players??? Isn't that what Assistant Coaches are supposed to do, to keep the guys on the bench into the game?   I'm FAR away from the situation, but VERY hard to understand... hope you guys can research further.....

Maybe VandeStreek is...trying to..rebuild the program?

[hoopdreams]

I'm simply an outsider but there is an incredibly HUGE difference between talking to players and undermining what a head coach is trying to do.  It's OK to allow kids to vent their issues but whether you agree with the situation/feelings/response or not, you must remain in alliance with your coach, his philosphies his discipline, etc....

If there is a belief that the kids were tuning KVS out and not responding to him, this is probably a pretty good indicator why.   Hard to lead a program when the kids are getting mixed signals and your support staff isn't supporting you, rather making you look the the "bad guy" who is out of touch and  doesn't understand kids anymore.

Teams must be cancer free in order to thrive and it sounds like KVS just removed a tumor (regardless if he seems like a really nice guy)

[Knight2Day]

I'm simply an outsider but there is an incredibly HUGE difference between talking to players and undermining what a head coach is trying to do.  It's OK to allow kids to vent their issues but whether you agree with the situation/feelings/response or not, you must remain in alliance with your coach, his philosphies his discipline, etc....

If there is a belief that the kids were tuning KVS out and not responding to him, this is probably a pretty good indicator why.   Hard to lead a program when the kids are getting mixed signals and your support staff isn't supporting you, rather making you look the the "bad guy" who is out of touch and  doesn't understand kids anymore.

Teams must be cancer free in order to thrive and it sounds like KVS just removed a tumor (regardless if he seems like a really nice guy)

Knowing what I do about the program, the situation, and Ricky as a person, tumor is about the most incorrect term to use.

[hoopdreams]

As I stated, I am simply an outsider but the scenario (good cop-bad cop) presented is something that I have witnessed, and been involved in.  One person spreading negative energy, intentional or not, whether it's a coach, team captain or student manager can and will divide a program every time. 

I simply threw out a theroy.  Using the word "tumor" was meant for enphasis.  Of course a great guy couldn't possibly be a tumor.  Would "distraction" have been a better choice of word? 

[northb]

As I stated, I am simply an outsider but the scenario (good cop-bad cop) presented is something that I have witnessed, and been involved in.  One person spreading negative energy, intentional or not, whether it's a coach, team captain or student manager can and will divide a program every time. 

I simply threw out a theroy.  Using the word "tumor" was meant for enphasis.  Of course a great guy couldn't possibly be a tumor.  Would "distraction" have been a better choice of word?

I think the point is that you are assuming quite a bit that is not known for sure.  There could be about 100 other reasons for this move.  We should always be cautious when talking about specific people.  OK would tell us to only testify to what we know to be true.

[HopeConvert]

As I stated, I am simply an outsider but the scenario (good cop-bad cop) presented is something that I have witnessed, and been involved in.  One person spreading negative energy, intentional or not, whether it's a coach, team captain or student manager can and will divide a program every time. 

I simply threw out a theroy.  Using the word "tumor" was meant for enphasis.  Of course a great guy couldn't possibly be a tumor.  Would "distraction" have been a better choice of word?

I think the point is that you are assuming quite a bit that is not known for sure.  There could be about 100 other reasons for this move.  We should always be cautious when talking about specific people.  OK would tell us to only testify to what we know to be true.

I know I proudly wear my maroon-colored WWOKD bracelet all the time.