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Quote from: KnightSlappy on April 09, 2012, 02:39:28 PM
Good news: North Park will be at the Calvin Tip-off Tournament this year.

Bad news: An in-region matchup with Calvin isn't guaranteed to take place.

Philadelphia Bible vs. North Park
Grace Bible vs. Calvin


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almcguirejr

Quote from: sac on March 26, 2012, 12:42:41 AM
Olivet has what they're calling their final 4 candidates coming in this week for the head coaching position. 

http://www.olivetcomets.com/sports/mbkb/2011-12/releases/20120324bjfic9

I'm wondering why Olivet would send out a release with their final four candidates and not hire any one of them?

Gregory Sager

Quote from: KnightSlappy on April 09, 2012, 02:39:28 PM
Good news: North Park will be at the Calvin Tip-off Tournament this year.

Bad news: An in-region matchup with Calvin isn't guaranteed to take place.

Philadelphia Bible vs. North Park
Grace Bible vs. Calvin

So the Park is finally going to set foot in VNA? But, instead of Calvin, our opponent will be ... Philadelphia Bible?

Philadelphia Bible?

Words fail me.

>:( x 100
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

goodknight

Quote from: Gregory Sager on April 09, 2012, 11:06:08 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on April 09, 2012, 02:39:28 PM
Good news: North Park will be at the Calvin Tip-off Tournament this year.

Bad news: An in-region matchup with Calvin isn't guaranteed to take place.

Philadelphia Bible vs. North Park
Grace Bible vs. Calvin

So the Park is finally going to set foot in VNA? But, instead of Calvin, our opponent will be ... Philadelphia Bible?

Philadelphia Bible?

Words fail me.

>:( x 100


I hear you, GS.  :-[

But, in other news, at least you're not facing Grace Bible first.  ::)

wiz

Quote from: Gregory Sager on April 09, 2012, 11:06:08 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on April 09, 2012, 02:39:28 PM
Good news: North Park will be at the Calvin Tip-off Tournament this year.

Bad news: An in-region matchup with Calvin isn't guaranteed to take place.

Philadelphia Bible vs. North Park
Grace Bible vs. Calvin

So the Park is finally going to set foot in VNA? But, instead of Calvin, our opponent will be ... Philadelphia Bible?

Philadelphia Bible?

Words fail me.

>:( x 100

In the spirit of hospitality, Calvin wants to make sure the Vikings get to enjoy the friendly confines of the VNA.

Knightmare

Quote from: almcguirejr on April 09, 2012, 10:03:25 PM
Quote from: sac on March 26, 2012, 12:42:41 AM
Olivet has what they're calling their final 4 candidates coming in this week for the head coaching position. 

http://www.olivetcomets.com/sports/mbkb/2011-12/releases/20120324bjfic9

I'm wondering why Olivet would send out a release with their final four candidates and not hire any one of them?

That does seem to be a peculiar move.  I would think that it wouldn't endear Olivet College to future prospective candidates for any other coaching positions that might come open in other sports either, doesn't really reflect very well on the college.  Also makes you wonder if someone wielded some individual power near the end of the process that may have had personal connections to the new hire causing this to come out of left field.  Just doesn't make sense.

SBell

Austin Getz 6-5 from West Ottawa, chooses Hope over K.

Stinger

Quote from: SBell on April 10, 2012, 12:48:05 PM
Austin Getz 6-5 from West Ottawa, chooses Hope over K.

"That's alright, that's okay....."    Kidding....  ;D
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Civic Minded

Quote from: goodknight on April 10, 2012, 08:01:13 AM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on April 09, 2012, 11:06:08 PM
Quote from: KnightSlappy on April 09, 2012, 02:39:28 PM
Good news: North Park will be at the Calvin Tip-off Tournament this year.

Bad news: An in-region matchup with Calvin isn't guaranteed to take place.

Philadelphia Bible vs. North Park
Grace Bible vs. Calvin

So the Park is finally going to set foot in VNA? But, instead of Calvin, our opponent will be ... Philadelphia Bible?

Philadelphia Bible?

Words fail me.

>:( x 100


I hear you, GS.  :-[

But, in other news, at least you're not facing Grace Bible first.  ::)

The Bible Tigers have developed into a really good team.  Although its a poor choice of a game if one is hedging their Pool C bets, it could be a very helpful game in that they most likely will be formidible opponents.
2014 MIAA Pick 'Em Champion  :)

SBell

Trine with another nice get from Michigan, Clarkston marksman Nick Tatu.

AndOne

Quote from: Knightmare on April 10, 2012, 09:58:30 AM
Quote from: almcguirejr on April 09, 2012, 10:03:25 PM
Quote from: sac on March 26, 2012, 12:42:41 AM
Olivet has what they're calling their final 4 candidates coming in this week for the head coaching position. 

http://www.olivetcomets.com/sports/mbkb/2011-12/releases/20120324bjfic9

I'm wondering why Olivet would send out a release with their final four candidates and not hire any one of them?

That does seem to be a peculiar move.  I would think that it wouldn't endear Olivet College to future prospective candidates for any other coaching positions that might come open in other sports either, doesn't really reflect very well on the college. Also makes you wonder if someone wielded some individual power near the end of the process that may have had personal connections to the new hire causing this to come out of left field.  Just doesn't make sense.

Exactly, Knightmare...........

Olivet basically screwed the four "finalists" they previously named. Having them travel to beautiful downtown Olivet when they apparently didn't really have a chance at the job.  >:(

A better question might be what kind of a ditz does Olivet have as its Athletic Director?? She basically lied to the supposed four finalists. Was Coach Coles among those that originally applied for the position and whose credentials  were initially missed in what was a case of exceptionally poor prospective employee analysis, or was he ushered in through the back door by a well connected alum at the last minute? Either way, still a screw job to the applicants brought to campus for interviews.

Maybe Olivet's recent record was more reflective of the abilities, or lack thereof, not of it's former coach, but of its Athletic Director. I felt sorry for the Olivet players, who never quit, when we beat them in football 86-14 last fall, and I still do. However, I now view it as a fitting gift for one Heather Bateman who of course is free to change her mind, and apparently recently did.   >:(   :(

oldknight

Quote from: AndOne on April 12, 2012, 09:05:55 PM
Quote from: Knightmare on April 10, 2012, 09:58:30 AM
Quote from: almcguirejr on April 09, 2012, 10:03:25 PM
Quote from: sac on March 26, 2012, 12:42:41 AM
Olivet has what they're calling their final 4 candidates coming in this week for the head coaching position. 

http://www.olivetcomets.com/sports/mbkb/2011-12/releases/20120324bjfic9

I'm wondering why Olivet would send out a release with their final four candidates and not hire any one of them?

That does seem to be a peculiar move.  I would think that it wouldn't endear Olivet College to future prospective candidates for any other coaching positions that might come open in other sports either, doesn't really reflect very well on the college. Also makes you wonder if someone wielded some individual power near the end of the process that may have had personal connections to the new hire causing this to come out of left field.  Just doesn't make sense.

Exactly, Knightmare...........

Olivet basically screwed the four "finalists" they previously named. Having them travel to beautiful downtown Olivet when they apparently didn't really have a chance at the job.  >:(

A better question might be what kind of a ditz does Olivet have as its Athletic Director?? She basically lied to the supposed four finalists. Was Coach Coles among those that originally applied for the position and whose credentials  were initially missed in what was a case of exceptionally poor prospective employee analysis, or was he ushered in through the back door by a well connected alum at the last minute? Either way, still a screw job to the applicants brought to campus for interviews.

Maybe Olivet's recent record was more reflective of the abilities, or lack thereof, not of it's former coach, but of its Athletic Director. I felt sorry for the Olivet players, who never quit, when we beat them in football 86-14 last fall, and I still do. However, I now view it as a fitting gift for one Heather Bateman who of course is free to change her mind, and apparently recently did.   >:(   :(

There is another possibility. It could be the four finalists named in the March 24 announcement all withdrew their names either before or after visiting Olivet's campus. That announcement mentioned that the four would make campus visits March 26-30.

In the April 9 announcement, Chris Coles stated he visited Olivet the previous week, which would have been after the four announced candidates did so. No matter what happened, it's an odd turn of events that's for sure.

Civic Minded

Quote from: AndOne on April 12, 2012, 09:05:55 PM
Quote from: Knightmare on April 10, 2012, 09:58:30 AM
Quote from: almcguirejr on April 09, 2012, 10:03:25 PM
Quote from: sac on March 26, 2012, 12:42:41 AM
Olivet has what they're calling their final 4 candidates coming in this week for the head coaching position. 

http://www.olivetcomets.com/sports/mbkb/2011-12/releases/20120324bjfic9

I'm wondering why Olivet would send out a release with their final four candidates and not hire any one of them?

That does seem to be a peculiar move.  I would think that it wouldn't endear Olivet College to future prospective candidates for any other coaching positions that might come open in other sports either, doesn't really reflect very well on the college. Also makes you wonder if someone wielded some individual power near the end of the process that may have had personal connections to the new hire causing this to come out of left field.  Just doesn't make sense.

Exactly, Knightmare...........

Olivet basically screwed the four "finalists" they previously named. Having them travel to beautiful downtown Olivet when they apparently didn't really have a chance at the job.  >:(

A better question might be what kind of a ditz does Olivet have as its Athletic Director?? She basically lied to the supposed four finalists. Was Coach Coles among those that originally applied for the position and whose credentials  were initially missed in what was a case of exceptionally poor prospective employee analysis, or was he ushered in through the back door by a well connected alum at the last minute? Either way, still a screw job to the applicants brought to campus for interviews.

Maybe Olivet's recent record was more reflective of the abilities, or lack thereof, not of it's former coach, but of its Athletic Director. I felt sorry for the Olivet players, who never quit, when we beat them in football 86-14 last fall, and I still do. However, I now view it as a fitting gift for one Heather Bateman who of course is free to change her mind, and apparently recently did.   >:(   :(

With apologies to OK, we were typing at the same time   :)

Do either of you know enough about the situation to cause such jumping to conclusions?  Can you not fathom a half a dozen situations where this outcome might make sense?  And do you have to reduce yourself (AndOne) to male chauvenist name calling (ditz?  really?)?  For what reason? 

Perhaps the situation is exactly as Knightmare speculated, and someone hammered out a behind closed doors deal.  Or perhaps 2 or 3 of the remaining candidates dropped out, leaving a less than desireable one.  Or perhaps upon further interviewing none of the 4 seemed to be the best fit, and instead of starting from square one another solution was found.  And perhaps the situation is even dirtier than implied above.  But whatever the case, why go on such an accusitory tirade?  I don't understand someone being so vindictive as to delight in a long-done football game because of perceived but not proven actions of an AD.  What am I missing?
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