MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[Happy Calvin Guy]

Interesting that Baldwin-Wallace announces an all-sport post-season ban today:

http://d3hoops.com/notables/2012/10/baldwin-wallace-postseason-ban

18 years late

[KnightSlappy]

Interesting poll result:

http://adrianbulldogs.com/sports/m-baskbl/2012-13/releases/20121101pgucaf

1. Hope (6) 9 pts.
2. Adrian 15.
3. Calvin (2) 17.
4. Trine 23.
5. Albion 31.
6. Alma 39.
7. Olivet 42.
8. Kalamazoo 48.

[sac]

Interesting poll result:

http://adrianbulldogs.com/sports/m-baskbl/2012-13/releases/20121101pgucaf

1. Hope (6) 9 pts.
2. Adrian 15.
3. Calvin (2) 17.
4. Trine 23.
5. Albion 31.
6. Alma 39.
7. Olivet 42.
8. Kalamazoo 48.

At least we know drinks were served

[KnightSlappy]

Interesting poll result:

http://adrianbulldogs.com/sports/m-baskbl/2012-13/releases/20121101pgucaf

1. Hope (6) 9 pts.
2. Adrian 15.
3. Calvin (2) 17.
4. Trine 23.
5. Albion 31.
6. Alma 39.
7. Olivet 42.
8. Kalamazoo 48.

At least we know drinks were served

On second look, it appears the poll should have 224 total point. This one only has 214.

[EDIT] on third look, I just can't add. It does have 224.

[oldknight]

Interesting poll result:

http://adrianbulldogs.com/sports/m-baskbl/2012-13/releases/20121101pgucaf

1. Hope (6) 9 pts.
2. Adrian 15.
3. Calvin (2) 17.
4. Trine 23.
5. Albion 31.
6. Alma 39.
7. Olivet 42.
8. Kalamazoo 48.

Interesting indeed. Unless I did the math incorrectly, that means Calvin got at least one vote to finish in the bottom half of the league.

[KnightSlappy]

Interesting poll result:

http://adrianbulldogs.com/sports/m-baskbl/2012-13/releases/20121101pgucaf

1. Hope (6) 9 pts.
2. Adrian 15.
3. Calvin (2) 17.
4. Trine 23.
5. Albion 31.
6. Alma 39.
7. Olivet 42.
8. Kalamazoo 48.

Interesting indeed. Unless I did the math incorrectly, that means Calvin got at least one vote to finish in the bottom half of the league.

Ziggy and I just quickly figured out a possibility of Calvin getting 2-2-1-2 (first-second-third-fourth).

[KnightSlappy]

One possible voting configuration:

          1   2   3   4   5   6   7   TOT
Hope      6   0   1   0   0   0   0   9
Adrian    0   6   1   0   0   0   0   15
Calvin    2   2   1   2   0   0   0   17
Trine     0   0   5   2   0   0   0   23
Albion    0   0   0   4   3   0   0   31
Alma      0   0   0   0   3   4   0   39
Olivet    0   0   0   0   2   3   2   42
Kalamazoo 0   0   0   0   0   1   6   48

[oldknight]

One possible voting configuration:

          1   2   3   4   5   6   7   TOT
Hope      6   0   1   0   0   0   0   9
Adrian    0   6   1   0   0   0   0   15
Calvin    2   2   1   2   0   0   0   17
Trine     0   0   5   2   0   0   0   23
Albion    0   0   0   4   3   0   0   31
Alma      0   0   0   0   3   4   0   39
Olivet    0   0   0   0   2   3   2   42
Kalamazoo 0   0   0   0   0   1   6   48

That makes sense.

[ziggy]

Interesting poll result:

http://adrianbulldogs.com/sports/m-baskbl/2012-13/releases/20121101pgucaf

1. Hope (6) 9 pts.
2. Adrian 15.
3. Calvin (2) 17.
4. Trine 23.
5. Albion 31.
6. Alma 39.
7. Olivet 42.
8. Kalamazoo 48.

Interesting indeed. Unless I did the math incorrectly, that means Calvin got at least one vote to finish in the bottom half of the league.

Ziggy and I just quickly figured out a possibility of Calvin getting 2-2-1-2 (first-second-third-fourth).

Things we can know:
Matt Neil voted for Calvin first, Adrian second, Trine third, Albion fourth
Kevin Vande Streek voted for Hope first, Adrian second, Trine third, Albion fourth
Coach X voted for Calvin first, Adrian second, Hope third. Coach X can't be Matt Neil, Kevin Vande Streek or Mark White.

[KnightSlappy]

One possible voting configuration:

          1   2   3   4   5   6   7   TOT
Hope      6   0   1   0   0   0   0   9
Adrian    0   6   1   0   0   0   0   15
Calvin    2   2   1   2   0   0   0   17
Trine     0   0   5   2   0   0   0   23
Albion    0   0   0   4   3   0   0   31
Alma      0   0   0   0   3   4   0   39
Olivet    0   0   0   0   2   3   2   42
Kalamazoo 0   0   0   0   0   1   6   48

Another possibility:

          1   2   3   4   5   6   7   TOT
Hope      6   0   1   0   0   0   0   9
Adrian    0   6   1   0   0   0   0   15
Calvin    2   1   3   1   0   0   0   17
Trine     0   1   3   3   0   0   0   23
Albion    0   0   0   4   3   0   0   31
Alma      0   0   0   0   3   4   0   39
Olivet    0   0   0   0   2   3   2   42
Kalamazoo 0   0   0   0   0   1   6   48


A third possibility:

          1   2   3   4   5   6   7   TOT
Hope      6   0   1   0   0   0   0   9
Adrian    0   6   1   0   0   0   0   15
Calvin    2   0   5   0   0   0   0   17
Trine     0   2   1   4   0   0   0   23
Albion    0   0   0   4   3   0   0   31
Alma      0   0   0   0   3   4   0   39
Olivet    0   0   0   0   2   3   2   42
Kalamazoo 0   0   0   0   0   1   6   48


Probably others as well. Hope's, Adrian's, and Kalamazoo's lines represent their only possible vote permutations.

[ziggy]

One possible voting configuration:

          1   2   3   4   5   6   7   TOT
Hope      6   0   1   0   0   0   0   9
Adrian    0   6   1   0   0   0   0   15
Calvin    2   2   1   2   0   0   0   17
Trine     0   0   5   2   0   0   0   23
Albion    0   0   0   4   3   0   0   31
Alma      0   0   0   0   3   4   0   39
Olivet    0   0   0   0   2   3   2   42
Kalamazoo 0   0   0   0   0   1   6   48

Another possibility:

          1   2   3   4   5   6   7   TOT
Hope      6   0   1   0   0   0   0   9
Adrian    0   6   1   0   0   0   0   15
Calvin    2   1   3   1   0   0   0   17
Trine     0   1   3   3   0   0   0   23
Albion    0   0   0   4   3   0   0   31
Alma      0   0   0   0   3   4   0   39
Olivet    0   0   0   0   2   3   2   42
Kalamazoo 0   0   0   0   0   1   6   48


A third possibility:

          1   2   3   4   5   6   7   TOT
Hope      6   0   1   0   0   0   0   9
Adrian    0   6   1   0   0   0   0   15
Calvin    2   0   5   0   0   0   0   17
Trine     0   2   1   4   0   0   0   23
Albion    0   0   0   4   3   0   0   31
Alma      0   0   0   0   3   4   0   39
Olivet    0   0   0   0   2   3   2   42
Kalamazoo 0   0   0   0   0   1   6   48

That throws off my whole "things we can know" post but these seem less likely.

[Happy Calvin Guy]

Interesting poll result:

1. Hope (6) 9 pts.
2. Adrian 15.
3. Calvin (2) 17.
4. Trine 23.
5. Albion 31.
6. Alma 39.
7. Olivet 42.
8. Kalamazoo 48.

2011-12 Calvin Injury Report:

Jordan Brink, shoulder
Mitch Vallie, broken arm
David Rietema, concussion
Mickey DeVries, ineligible

2012-13 Calvin Injury Report:
Entire Roster, chip on shoulder

[KnightSlappy]

The poll point distribution implies the following conference win totals:

Hope: 13.3
Adrian: 11.3
Calvin: 10.7
Trine: 8.7
Albion: 6.0
Alma: 3.3
Olivet: 2.3
Kalamazoo: 0.3

Figuring that Wins = 14 x [1 - (Actual Points - Minimum Points) / (Maximum Points - Minimum Points) ]

[KnightSlappy]

I abandoned the kiddies looking for candy at the OldKnight homestead in favor of watching the Knights scrimmage. They played GRCC which features a team that is not that big but is athletic and very quick. Calvin started Kruis, Snikkers, Dykstra, Brink and Rietema. This group played very well together the first 6-8 minutes, dominated the boards, moved the ball, and repeatedly got good shot opportunities. There was more uneven play as substitutes entered the game but the Knights won the first 20 minutes comfortably 48-33. The second 20 minutes featured more players who had seen little or no action during the first session of play, especially on the offensive end, and things got pretty ragged at times. Efficiency of ball movement declined and turnovers increased. The second frame ended with CC banking a buzzer beating triple from 35 feet and the teams tied at 33. I left early in the third 20 minutes as both teams emptied the bench of players who hadn't played.

There were good, bad and unusual things to note. Now that he has the offensive weapons around him he lacked last year, Snikkers was freed to do what he does best--spend more of his time and effort to penetrate and dish. His passing was very good and the big guys got several easy baskets on assists Tom created. Tyler Kruis played well and Jordan Brink reminded us we missed him last year. Mickey De Vries was outstanding, seemed to grab every rebound, took more than one charge and scored in a variety of creative ways. KnightSlappy said Mickey was the player of the game and I can't gainsay that comment. I think MDV needs to be a starter again.

On the list of concerns was the unusual lack of three point shooting. It's not that Calvin shot and missed a lot, it's just that they hardly even attempted any triples. Maybe that was by design with Calvin deliberately concentrating efforts on the inside game but it struck me as almost weird. Besides Brink (who only took one or two from the arc) who will be stretching the defenses this year? We need more than one player to do that. I also think we need more consistency from the point position which alternated between moving the ball in ways that challenged the defense and turning it over.

My quick two cents: Calvin appears more athletic than any Calvin team I can recall.

Their biggest weakness last night was trying to make the pretty play instead of the sound play. Too many attempts at threading the needle, and too many attempts to dribble their way out of trouble.

[goodknight]

Interesting poll result:

http://adrianbulldogs.com/sports/m-baskbl/2012-13/releases/20121101pgucaf

1. Hope (6) 9 pts.
2. Adrian 15.
3. Calvin (2) 17.
4. Trine 23.
5. Albion 31.
6. Alma 39.
7. Olivet 42.
8. Kalamazoo 48.

The following expression comes to mind when pondering this prognostication:

Under promise.
Over perform.