MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

KnightSlappy · February 09, 2013, 01:08:46 PM

Quote from: calvinite on February 09, 2013, 12:48:34 PM
Just watching the warm-up act (UM-UW) before the big game....

Probably best referred to as UM-Ann Arbor and UW-Madison around these parts.

calvinite · February 09, 2013, 01:18:54 PM

Agree with UW-Madison part, under the circumstances, but there's only one UM, and that one UM isn't winning at the moment. They must have read SAC's comment about getting on an airplane and 'knowing' they would/might/may lose. I don't remember the exact wording, but it was something along those lines.

calvinite · February 09, 2013, 01:45:44 PM

What's the policy on using profanity on this site?

arena · February 09, 2013, 03:31:54 PM

Quote from: calvinite on February 09, 2013, 01:45:44 PM
What's the policy on using profanity on this site?

Probably shouldn't use it.

GoKnights68 · February 09, 2013, 05:14:58 PM

Calvin and KVS once again lay an egg against Hope in front of an international satellite audience. Embarrassing

arena · February 09, 2013, 05:18:56 PM

Quote from: GoKnights68 on February 09, 2013, 05:14:58 PM
Calvin and KVS once again lay an egg against Hope in front of an international satellite audience. Embarrasing

in their defense, they were playing against 8 at times

Roundball999 · February 09, 2013, 05:23:36 PM

Wow, didn't take long for the referee complaints to start....

arena · February 09, 2013, 05:25:31 PM

Quote from: Roundball999 on February 09, 2013, 05:23:36 PM
Wow, didn't take long for the referee complaints to start....

No, really, there were 3 extra hope players who showed up today that weren't at the first game.

Knightmare · February 09, 2013, 05:43:38 PM

Only thing I thought the refs could've improved on significantly is seeing through the flops inside by Hope's big men. Between NVA and Snuggerud (maybe the two biggest guys on the court) they sure have a hard time staying on their feet when rebounding. The refs were buying their flops hook, line and sinker resulting in multiple trips where they scored a basket and then got the ball back on a loose ball rebounding foul. Other than that I thought a good hard fought game though I suspect neither team will be happy with their free throw shooting. I thought NVA for Hope had a really good game (can't believe the last lefty hook shot going in) and for Calvin Reitma had a really nice all around game too.

arena · February 09, 2013, 05:46:31 PM

Quote from: Knightmare on February 09, 2013, 05:43:38 PM
Only thing I thought the refs could've improved on significantly is seeing through the flops inside by Hope's big men. Between NVA and Snuggerud (maybe the two biggest guys on the court) they sure have a hard time staying on their feet when rebounding. The refs were buying their flops hook, line and sinker resulting in multiple trips where they scored a basket and then got the ball back on a loose ball rebounding foul. Other than that I thought a good hard fought game though I suspect neither team will be happy with their free throw shooting. I thought NVA for Hope had a really good game (can't believe the last lefty hook shot going in) and for Calvin Reitma had a really nice all around game too.

Yep, you mentioned two of the three extra hope players. Both of those guys deserved oscars.

goodknight · February 09, 2013, 05:50:21 PM

It wasn't the officiating that cost Calvin this one.
Hope worked a little harder, and when that happens you usually get the breaks.
Look at the difference in rebounding. First time Calvin's been outrebounded in the conference schedule.
Even so, I thought Calvin would win this one -- until Snuggs banked in that 24-foot moon shot. At that point, it struck me that this might be the Dutchmen's day.

KnightSlappy · February 09, 2013, 05:51:38 PM

Quote from: GoKnights68 on February 09, 2013, 05:14:58 PM
Calvin and KVS once again lay an egg against Hope in front of an international satellite audience. Embarrassing

Can't believe KVS let Snuggs bank in that shot. Poor preparation by the coach.

Titan Q · February 09, 2013, 05:58:58 PM

Just finished watching the entire Hope/Calvin game on World Harvest TV - DVR'd it and got to skip through the timeouts, commercials, etc. Quite a luxury for a D3 game!

I think I was about as neutral of an observer as you'll find in this one - I had zero rooting interest, just wanted to 1) enjoy the rivalry atmosphere, and 2) get a little better feel for Calvin. There has been some discussion about Calvin's placement in the Great Lakes regional rankings so was looking to see for myself what kind of team the Knights are. I didn't think the officials were biased either way in this one. Like any game, there were some bad calls, and other bang-bang type calls that could have gone either way, but it seemed balanced to me.

I enjoyed watching the game. Great atmosphere.

Knightmare · February 09, 2013, 06:40:50 PM

Quote from: Titan Q on February 09, 2013, 05:58:58 PM
Just finished watching the entire Hope/Calvin game on World Harvest TV - DVR'd it and got to skip through the timeouts, commercials, etc. Quite a luxury for a D3 game!

I think I was about as neutral of an observer as you'll find in this one - I had zero rooting interest, just wanted to 1) enjoy the rivalry atmosphere, and 2) get a little better feel for Calvin. There has been some discussion about Calvin's placement in the Great Lakes regional rankings so was looking to see for myself what kind of team the Knights are. I didn't think the officials were biased either way in this one. Like any game, there were some bad calls, and other bang-bang type calls that could have gone either way, but it seemed balanced to me.

I enjoyed watching the game. Great atmosphere.

I would agree on good close game, great atmosphere and the reffing being unbiased except for those under the basket calls I previously alluded too. It's one thing to call a loose ball foul under the basket when guys are fighting for a loose rebound but making that call against the defensive team multiple times AFTER the ball has gone through the hoop and on what was clearly borderline contact and boxing out seems to be a pretty big anomaly compared to most games. I just think they got suckered, multiple times, into what should have non-calls. It's one thing if it was a clear loose ball and a Hope player was clearly prevented from getting an offensive rebound, those calls they should make. But in those multiple calls there was some acting going on and the ball was NEVER even in play for a rebound on top of that.

All in all a good rivalry game (though wish the result would've gone the other way), and nice to be able to see the game up here in Northern MI from the comfort of my own family room. Also pretty strange to see that Hope is gonna have an all lefty shooting back-court for the next few years, don't see that often.

Knightmare · February 09, 2013, 06:50:52 PM

Also wanted to give credit where credit is due. NVA for Hope was the key to that game for them. He had an excellent all around game today and made some very nice passes out of the post too to cutters and open shooters as well as finishing most of his chances around the basket. I think the road block that he runs into is he doesn't have games like that consistently. He definitely showed up today in a big way.