MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

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sflzman

WOTS is that Stone Beckwith (Beal City) will be playing Alma this upcoming year. Very talented kid I have heard though have never seen him play. Older sister Sydney was a pretty solid player towards the end of Coach G's run as the girls coach here in Alma.
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HollandKnight

Here are some big recruits around the league along with there highlights
Calvin:Brad Visser
http://bradvisser.com/
Alma: Stone Beckwith and Cody Edgerton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyAamE2B7yw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdBtNA_315c (paron the music)
Hope: Cody Stuive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRuKdV9-X04

So far it looks as though Alma has a recruiting lead but Hope always happens to pull a couple good freshman out of there back pocket. 8-) 8-) 8-)
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sac

Quote from: sflzman on April 12, 2013, 09:01:39 PM
WOTS is that Stone Beckwith (Beal City) will be playing Alma this upcoming year. Very talented kid I have heard though have never seen him play. Older sister Sydney was a pretty solid player towards the end of Coach G's run as the girls coach here in Alma.

If so this leaves Saginaw Valley State with 7 scholarship players on the returning roster.

http://athletics.svsu.edu/sports/mbkb/2012-13/2014/roster

sflzman

Quote from: sac on April 12, 2013, 09:41:22 PM
Quote from: sflzman on April 12, 2013, 09:01:39 PM
WOTS is that Stone Beckwith (Beal City) will be playing Alma this upcoming year. Very talented kid I have heard though have never seen him play. Older sister Sydney was a pretty solid player towards the end of Coach G's run as the girls coach here in Alma.

If so this leaves Saginaw Valley State with 7 scholarship players on the returning roster.

http://athletics.svsu.edu/sports/mbkb/2012-13/2014/roster

Yeah I don't have that confirmed but that's what I had heard. Not really sure what his reason would be for leaving svsu
Be not afraid of greatness - Shakespeare

goodknight

Quote from: HollandKnight on April 12, 2013, 09:25:54 PM
Here are some big recruits around the league along with there highlights
Calvin:Brad Visser
http://bradvisser.com/
Alma: Stone Beckwith and Cody Edgerton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyAamE2B7yw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdBtNA_315c (paron the music)
Hope: Cody Stuive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRuKdV9-X04

So far it looks as though Alma has a recruiting lead but Hope always happens to pull a couple good freshman out of there back pocket. 8-) 8-) 8-)

Holland Knight:
Do you have confirmation that Brad Visser is coming to Calvin?  It's my understanding that he hasn't yet made a decision.

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Titan Q

Hey Dutchmen, stay out of Bloomington and we'll stay out of Holland.  Can we work out a deal moving forward?

Quote from: Titan Q on April 13, 2013, 06:02:37 PM
Per Twitter, Ron Rose has won a tough recruiting battle for a local big man.  6-8/235 C Trevor Seibring from Normal Community H.S. has committed to Illinois Wesleyan.  Seibring, who has all kinds of IWU family ties, was pursued heavily by D3 powers Wash U and Hope.  His decision came down to the Titans and Hope, where he visited last week.

Trevor (cousin of 6-2 IWU commit Spencer) averaged 13.5 ppg and 7.2 rpg this year.  He was a unanimous all-Big 12 selection and a member of the Pantagraph all-area team.

A big addition to the IWU recruiting class.


http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/scoreboard/leaders_and_polls/pantagraph---all-area-boys-basketball/article_4f8d680e-9740-11e2-8efd-001a4bcf887a.html

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/high-school/basketball/boys/kindred-want-to-win-this-family-can-help-you/article_47a6c2a2-50f7-11e0-b508-001cc4c002e0.html

sac


goodknight

Quote from: sac on April 13, 2013, 08:39:44 PM
No dice Q, the stakes have been raised. ;)

How could Hope have won the battle for this kid?  His dad is the director of financial aid for IWU, which doubtless means he's going to college for free, or nearly so. 

ziggy

Quote from: goodknight on April 14, 2013, 08:08:40 AM
Quote from: sac on April 13, 2013, 08:39:44 PM
No dice Q, the stakes have been raised. ;)

How could Hope have won the battle for this kid?  His dad is the director of financial aid for IWU, which doubtless means he's going to college for free, or nearly so.

Maybe Hope saw a lot of "leadership" potential.  :P

Titan Q

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Quote from: goodknight on April 14, 2013, 08:08:40 AM
Quote from: sac on April 13, 2013, 08:39:44 PM
No dice Q, the stakes have been raised. ;)

How could Hope have won the battle for this kid?  His dad is the director of financial aid for IWU, which doubtless means he's going to college for free, or nearly so.

At IWU, like many schools, the tuition program for children of employees extends to other schools.  Trevor Seibring was going to have a large chunk of his college education paid for by Illinois Wesleyan whether he went to IWU, Wash U, Hope, etc.  For Hope, in essence it was like having a scholarship to give.

Despite all of the kid's ties to IWU (which obviously created a huge advantage for IWU), put yourself in his shoes - do you choose to go to college in the town you grew up in, or do you go away?  (I know I did not want to go to college in Chicago.)  That was a very real factor.  And on top of that he was getting recruited by two great D3 programs (Wash U and Hope), so he had strong "out-of-town" options. 

Hope was very much in the mix for Seibring until the very end.

HopeConvert

Quote from: Titan Q on April 14, 2013, 09:01:12 AM
Quote from: goodknight on April 14, 2013, 08:08:40 AM
Quote from: sac on April 13, 2013, 08:39:44 PM
No dice Q, the stakes have been raised. ;)

How could Hope have won the battle for this kid?  His dad is the director of financial aid for IWU, which doubtless means he's going to college for free, or nearly so.

At IWU, like many schools, the tuition program for children of employees extends to other schools.  Trevor Seibring was going to have a large chunk of his college education paid for by Illinois Wesleyan whether he went to IWU, Wash U, Hope, etc.  For Hope, in essence it was like having a scholarship to give.

Despite all of the kid's ties to IWU (which obviously created a huge advantage for IWU), put yourself in his shoes - do you choose to go to college in the town you grew up in, or do you go away?  (I know I did not want to go to college in Chicago.)  That was a very real factor.  And on top of that he was getting recruited by two great D3 programs (Wash U and Hope), so he had strong "out-of-town" options. 

Hope was very much in the mix for Seibring until the very end.

As far as I know Hope has no reciprocation agreement with IWU, and certainly doesn't have one with WashU.

IWU offers a tuition payment program to other schools for faculty who have been there more than five years, but they do not have such a program for staff. Staff members would have to send their children to a CIC (Council of Independent Colleges) school to receive such a benefit, and neither Hope nor WashU are members of the CIC.
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Titan Q

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Quote from: HopeConvert on April 14, 2013, 10:11:43 AM

IWU offers a tuition payment program to other schools for faculty who have been there more than five years, but they do not have such a program for staff. Staff members would have to send their children to a CIC (Council of Independent Colleges) school to receive such a benefit, and neither Hope nor WashU are members of the CIC.

This says Hope is a member of the CIC?

http://www.cic.edu/About-CIC/Who-We-Are/Members-of-CIC/Pages/default.aspx


I'm 100% sure Seibring could have gone to Hope on IWU's tuition payment program.

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HopeConvert

Hope does not participate in the CIC's tuition exchange program, which is what I originally consulted:

https://wp.cic.edu/Chapter/CICChapterMembers.aspx?CID=4776a598-90cd-db11-a182-005056873acc

I had checked IWU's Faculty handbook:

https://wp.cic.edu/Chapter/CICChapterMembers.aspx?CID=4776a598-90cd-db11-a182-005056873acc

And staff handbook:

https://wp.cic.edu/Chapter/CICChapterMembers.aspx?CID=4776a598-90cd-db11-a182-005056873acc

What I did not check - and this was my mistake - was the Exempt Staff handbook:

http://www.iwu.edu/iwujobs/ExemptHandbook.pdf (see page 48)

Had I done so I would have seen that the Director of Financial Aid would have had eligible benefits, the same as qualifying faculty, to cover tuition costs at Hope. I was curious as to what program IWU would have in place to cover such costs. IWU's policy is as follows:

QuoteFull-time tenure-track faculty members who have completed five continuous years of full-time service to the University and who have had legal responsibilities for their dependent children for at least five years may receive a tuition grant for their children to attend another institution on a full-time basis. This grant is payable directly to the other institution in the amount of the tuition charge of the alternative school or threefourths of the IWU tuition charge in the same year, whichever is less.

I have to say, this is an extraordinarily generous policy. Offhand I don't know of another school that does that.
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