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Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: sac on May 05, 2013, 10:09:53 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on May 05, 2013, 07:32:10 PM
When Carlos Pena got that single in the 7th inning, I could hear Jim Leyland's sigh of relief all the way to Ypsilanti (and the game was in Houston!).  Justin Verlander had a no-no going after 6.1 innings, but had already thrown over 100 pitches by that point.  If it gets to be the 8th, Justin is still well on his way to a 3rd no-hitter, but he's already thrown 130 pitches, the manager is in one TOUGH spot (especially so early in the season)! :P

Its moot now (or mute on this board) but the Tigers have 2 days off in the next four, Verlander isn't scheduled to pitch until next Saturday.  Jimmy might have rolled the dice on that one.

Well, maybe.  Can you imagine the howls if he pulled him with a no hitter going?  And can you imagine the howls later in the year if he has arm troubles and Jimmy DIDN'T pull him?

I'm sure that Leyland was mostly pulling for the no hitter.  But Justin, you have GOT to be more efficient on your pitch count!  C'mon, man, 81 pitches can strike out 27 batters! :o ;D

Gregory Sager

Quote from: sac on May 05, 2013, 10:05:19 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on May 05, 2013, 09:43:08 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on May 05, 2013, 09:25:59 PMBut I did wonder why Q singled out Hope.  I saw nothing in the article to indicate any religious or other ties to Hope (perhaps Q knows his religious affiliation?).  Looks at this point to be a major d1 guy.

Piece the evidence together, Chuck. ;)

http://www.hope.edu/athletics/mbb/mbbrost.html

http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php/featured-news/1290-6-8-barrett-benson-talks-spring

Maybe side by side will help



How's he ever going to get his training wheels off if you keep holding on to the back of his bike and running alongside him? ;)
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Mr. Ypsi

So - is Brock Benson the older brother (cousin?) of Barrett Benson?

The article never mentioned that connection (if it exists).  I'd still say current evidence says he is much more likely to go d1.

devossed

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on May 06, 2013, 12:56:58 AM
So - is Brock Benson the older brother (cousin?) of Barrett Benson?

The article never mentioned that connection (if it exists).  I'd still say current evidence says he is much more likely to go d1.

Yes, Barrett has already been on-campus, taking "unofficial" visits to see his brother.

HopeConvert

Quote from: HollandKnight on May 05, 2013, 08:26:36 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on May 04, 2013, 07:00:08 PM
Future Flying Dutchman?

http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php/featured-news/1290-6-8-barrett-benson-talks-spring
Sorry to burst your bubble but for a kid whose parents went to Purdue, he is getting looks from there and he is looking for academically prestigious college he probably won't choose Hope. Not saying that they don't have a good academic standing but when placed next to the powerhouses you see that a D3 school in Holland would not compare to some Ivy league Universities out west.
I can't speak for anyone else, but this will likely win my vote for "Post of the Year."
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Chief

Quote from: sac on May 05, 2013, 10:05:19 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on May 05, 2013, 09:43:08 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on May 05, 2013, 09:25:59 PMBut I did wonder why Q singled out Hope.  I saw nothing in the article to indicate any religious or other ties to Hope (perhaps Q knows his religious affiliation?).  Looks at this point to be a major d1 guy.

Piece the evidence together, Chuck. ;)

http://www.hope.edu/athletics/mbb/mbbrost.html

http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php/featured-news/1290-6-8-barrett-benson-talks-spring

Maybe side by side will help



He would be a nice covenant scholar for them.

sac


sflzman

That looks like a kid that could be dangerous in the conference. But I also don't know how well he would fit into Adrian's snooze-heavy offense. Or who knows if he would be able to translate into a college player. But he's definitely athletic
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northb

From Calvin's sports report:

For the first time since the 1999-2000 academic year, Calvin College has won the outright MIAA Commissioner's Cup. Calvin finished the year with 228 points, edging rival Hope for first place by two points. At the conclusion of the 2007-08 year, Calvin and Hope shared the Commissioner's Cup as the two schools tied for first place. Hope had since won the last four outright titles.

The MIAA Commissioner's Cup award is based on the cumulative performance of each member school in the league's 20 sports for men and women.
The final Commissioner's Cup standings is determined on the basis of each college's standings in nine of 10 sports for men and nine of 10 sports for women.
The Commissioner's Cup (All-Sports Award) has beene presented since 1934-35. Hope has won the award 34 times, followed by Kalamazoo 15, Albion 14, Calvin 9 and Alma 5.



In addition, Calvin took first place in the MIAA Men's All-Sports standings with 106 points, finishing four points ahead of Hope. Hope took first place in the MIAA Women's All-Sports standings with 124 points, edging Calvin by two points.



The 2012-13 academic year has been an historic one for the Calvin athletics program as it captured an MIAA record 12 conference titles including 10 that were outright league crowns. Calvin competes in 19 of the 20 MIAA-sponsored sports. The Knights do not compete in football.



In the fall, Calvin claimed six outright MIAA titles as its men's and women's soccer, men's and women's cross country, volleyball and men's golf team won league championships. During the winter season, Calvin took home three more titles with its men's basketball and women's swimming and diving teams winning outright championships while its women's basketball team claimed a co-championship.



This spring, Calvin added three more MIAA championships to the mix as its men's and women's track and field teams won outright league titles while its men's tennis team gained a three-way share of the MIAA title.  The men's tennis title was the first league championship in Calvin history.
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HollandKnight

Quote from: northb on May 08, 2013, 06:04:08 PM
From Calvin's sports report:

For the first time since the 1999-2000 academic year, Calvin College has won the outright MIAA Commissioner's Cup. Calvin finished the year with 228 points, edging rival Hope for first place by two points. At the conclusion of the 2007-08 year, Calvin and Hope shared the Commissioner's Cup as the two schools tied for first place. Hope had since won the last four outright titles.

The MIAA Commissioner's Cup award is based on the cumulative performance of each member school in the league's 20 sports for men and women.
The final Commissioner's Cup standings is determined on the basis of each college's standings in nine of 10 sports for men and nine of 10 sports for women.
The Commissioner's Cup (All-Sports Award) has beene presented since 1934-35. Hope has won the award 34 times, followed by Kalamazoo 15, Albion 14, Calvin 9 and Alma 5.



In addition, Calvin took first place in the MIAA Men's All-Sports standings with 106 points, finishing four points ahead of Hope. Hope took first place in the MIAA Women's All-Sports standings with 124 points, edging Calvin by two points.



The 2012-13 academic year has been an historic one for the Calvin athletics program as it captured an MIAA record 12 conference titles including 10 that were outright league crowns. Calvin competes in 19 of the 20 MIAA-sponsored sports. The Knights do not compete in football.



In the fall, Calvin claimed six outright MIAA titles as its men's and women's soccer, men's and women's cross country, volleyball and men's golf team won league championships. During the winter season, Calvin took home three more titles with its men's basketball and women's swimming and diving teams winning outright championships while its women's basketball team claimed a co-championship.



This spring, Calvin added three more MIAA championships to the mix as its men's and women's track and field teams won outright league titles while its men's tennis team gained a three-way share of the MIAA title.  The men's tennis title was the first league championship in Calvin history.
Correct me if I'm wrong but word has it that Calvin won the golf championship because Trine's top golfer botched his scorecard so Calvin won by default... Now if that Senior golfer didn't have that blooper we might be handing that Cup to Hope.
Owner of the 2013 Post of The Year voted by HopeConvert

sac

Calvin finished 29 shots ahead of Trine in final golf standings last fall, I don't see how one scorecard could make that big of a difference in the final standings.  Hope would still be behind Calvin in that sport regardless of what Trine did.

If you're talking about the spring NCAA qualifiers, I don't believe those have any bearing on the MIAA Championship or all-sports awards points.

HopeConvert

Well, to revisit an old issue with some new studies, it turns out the "hot hand" theory is getting some reconsideration. Note also the advent of the "anti-hot hand," to which anyone who has played ball with me would have already averred.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/08/are-hot-hands-in-sports-for-real/?smid=tw-share

I suppose this may be an interesting opportunity to wax on the limits of statistical analysis, social science, and science in general, but I'll spare you that. Still, I'll restate my oft-stated claim that if social science conflicts with observation, you're probably better off being skeptical about the science rather than the observation.
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KnightSlappy

Quote from: HopeConvert on May 09, 2013, 08:54:40 AM
Well, to revisit an old issue with some new studies, it turns out the "hot hand" theory is getting some reconsideration. Note also the advent of the "anti-hot hand," to which anyone who has played ball with me would have already averred.

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/08/are-hot-hands-in-sports-for-real/?smid=tw-share

I suppose this may be an interesting opportunity to wax on the limits of statistical analysis, social science, and science in general, but I'll spare you that. Still, I'll restate my oft-stated claim that if social science conflicts with observation, you're probably better off being skeptical about the science rather than the observation.

I think the debate about "hot hands" and "clutch" and whatever else often get too focused on if they exist instead of the degree to which they exist. If the free throw study that is referenced in the article is the same one I'm thinking of, the researchers found evidence that the "hot hand" really does exist and that shooters were about 1% more likely to make a second shot after sinking the first.

I think we often think in terms of a shooter who's "hot" going from 40% to 60% when, if a "hot hand" did exist, it would be more like 40% to 41%. It's interesting to study, but probably doesn't impact games to much at all.