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Rule changes made official

http://m.freep.com/Sports/article?a=2013306250063&f=1233

Charge/block rule supposedly adjusted to be more in favor of the offense and the popular...." More emphasis will be placed on calling fouls on defensive players who impede progress of offensive players with their arms and hands."

I'll believe that when I see it, probably at Kresge.

Adrian's foul differential was about -0.88 fouls per game last year. Long way to go before I believe impeding progress of offensive players with arms and hands is an actual emphasis.

[HopeConvert]

Let me know when players on offense are no longer allowed to palm or, worse still, move their feet on the high screen. It's become a farce.

[Gregory Sager]

Moot anyway (or mute) but not reaching the MIAA finals probably means you aren't getting in the tournament.

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True.  I meant to add that tidbit, but forgot.  A non-finalist has made the NCAAs VERY rarely.  Even in the "almighty" CCIW, being a finalist is necessary more years than not.  (That "almighty" is for you, sac - I know you've been cheesed at d3hoops.com for a perceived CCIW bias. )

Chuck, a CCIW tourney non-finalist has made the D3 tourney field in three of the last four seasons.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Moot anyway (or mute) but not reaching the MIAA finals probably means you aren't getting in the tournament.

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True.  I meant to add that tidbit, but forgot.  A non-finalist has made the NCAAs VERY rarely.  Even in the "almighty" CCIW, being a finalist is necessary more years than not.  (That "almighty" is for you, sac - I know you've been cheesed at d3hoops.com for a perceived CCIW bias. )

Chuck, a CCIW tourney non-finalist has made the D3 tourney field in three of the last four seasons.

Greg, In the last four seasons, the CCIW has had three teams three times (and in 2013, finalist Augie was NOT one of the three).  In the previous four years (the entire history of the CCIW tourney), NO non-finalist made the tourney.  My 'being a finalist is necessary more years than not' may have sounded more emphatic than was true (and I was surprised it wasn't more correct), but it WAS correct: 5 of 8 years only finalists went to the national tourney.

[Gregory Sager]

Moot anyway (or mute) but not reaching the MIAA finals probably means you aren't getting in the tournament.

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True.  I meant to add that tidbit, but forgot.  A non-finalist has made the NCAAs VERY rarely.  Even in the "almighty" CCIW, being a finalist is necessary more years than not.  (That "almighty" is for you, sac - I know you've been cheesed at d3hoops.com for a perceived CCIW bias. )

Chuck, a CCIW tourney non-finalist has made the D3 tourney field in three of the last four seasons.

Greg, In the last four seasons, the CCIW has had three teams three times (and in 2013, finalist Augie was NOT one of the three).  In the previous four years (the entire history of the CCIW tourney), NO non-finalist made the tourney.  My 'being a finalist is necessary more years than not' may have sounded more emphatic than was true (and I was surprised it wasn't more correct), but it WAS correct: 5 of 8 years only finalists went to the national tourney.

Sure, it was technically correct. But my point was that it was also misleading. Given the ongoing strength of the league, and the changing parameters in favor of power conferences (more at-large bids added as the tourney expands, more emphasis upon SOS, etc.), getting three CCIW teams into the tourney is significantly more feasible now than it was in the past.

(And, yeah, I realize that I am heedlessly thwacking at a beehive with a broom by posting this on the MIAA board. )

[KnightSlappy]

Let me know when players on offense are no longer allowed to palm or, worse still, move their feet on the high screen. It's become a farce.

More crap that Adrian does more than any other team in the league.

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Let me know when players on offense are no longer allowed to palm or, worse still, move their feet on the high screen. It's become a farce.

You want Nate Van Arendonk to be in MORE foul trouble?

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Let me know when players on offense are no longer allowed to palm or, worse still, move their feet on the high screen. It's become a farce.

More crap that Adrian does more than any other team in the league.

Another way to look at that could be to say Adrian is well coached - aka taking advantage of what the officials allow them to do.

[HopeConvert]

Let me know when players on offense are no longer allowed to palm or, worse still, move their feet on the high screen. It's become a farce.

You want Nate Van Arendonk to be in MORE foul trouble?

Actually, NVA does a pretty good job at staying set. The worst I've seen in years is Mitch McGary. In the NBA a moving screen is practically de rigueur.

[KnightSlappy]

Let me know when players on offense are no longer allowed to palm or, worse still, move their feet on the high screen. It's become a farce.

More crap that Adrian does more than any other team in the league.

Another way to look at that could be to say Adrian is well coached - aka taking advantage of what the officials allow them to do.

Sure, but it still makes for bad basketball to watch.

[oldknight]

Let me know when players on offense are no longer allowed to palm or, worse still, move their feet on the high screen. It's become a farce.

You want Nate Van Arendonk to be in MORE foul trouble?

Actually, NVA does a pretty good job at staying set. The worst I've seen in years is Mitch McGary. In the NBA a moving screen is practically de rigueur.

Snuggerud gets my vote for knowing how to push the pick-setting envelope as far as possible without getting caught. I can't tell you how many baseline screens he set at VNA that led me to plead my case--alas, quite unsuccessfully--with officials who never seemed to find my arguments persuasive. I admit to grudging respect for his ability to repeatedly free up teammates for open looks on the wing.

[oldknight]

Moot anyway (or mute) but not reaching the MIAA finals probably means you aren't getting in the tournament.

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True.  I meant to add that tidbit, but forgot.  A non-finalist has made the NCAAs VERY rarely.  Even in the "almighty" CCIW, being a finalist is necessary more years than not.  (That "almighty" is for you, sac - I know you've been cheesed at d3hoops.com for a perceived CCIW bias. )

Chuck, a CCIW tourney non-finalist has made the D3 tourney field in three of the last four seasons.

Greg, In the last four seasons, the CCIW has had three teams three times (and in 2013, finalist Augie was NOT one of the three).  In the previous four years (the entire history of the CCIW tourney), NO non-finalist made the tourney.  My 'being a finalist is necessary more years than not' may have sounded more emphatic than was true (and I was surprised it wasn't more correct), but it WAS correct: 5 of 8 years only finalists went to the national tourney.

Sure, it was technically correct. But my point was that it was also misleading. Given the ongoing strength of the league, and the changing parameters in favor of power conferences (more at-large bids added as the tourney expands, more emphasis upon SOS, etc.), getting three CCIW teams into the tourney is significantly more feasible now than it was in the past.

(And, yeah, I realize that I am heedlessly thwacking at a beehive with a broom by posting this on the MIAA board. )

No problem; it's summer and with far less commentary and no basketball games to nitpick, MIAA posters typically subscribe to an era of good feelings on the board--even if it comes from the CCIW .

[Mr. Ypsi]

(I guess I'll test oldknight's forebearance on an NBA post from a CCIW first, MIAA second, guy! )

Much to the surprise of most draft analysts, Trey Burke was still available at the Piston's 8th slot - and they didn't pick him!!!   (He went 9th to Minnesota.)  I've about had it with Joe Dumars.

In related news (which I just made up), the Piston's ticket manager resigned this evening.

[sac]

Let me know when players on offense are no longer allowed to palm or, worse still, move their feet on the high screen. It's become a farce.

More crap that Adrian does more than any other team in the league.

Adrian sets screens?

[sac]

(I guess I'll test oldknight's forebearance on an NBA post from a CCIW first, MIAA second, guy! )

Much to the surprise of most draft analysts, Trey Burke was still available at the Piston's 8th slot - and they didn't pick him!!!   (He went 9th to Minnesota.)  I've about had it with Joe Dumars.

In related news (which I just made up), the Piston's ticket manager resigned this evening.

Want to feel old, The Palace of Auburn Hills turns 25 years old in about a month and a half.