MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[sac]

Listening to the interview on Hoopsville with National Chair Steve Ulrich, he made it sound like Hope's primary reason for hosting was being #2 in the Great Lakes Region. 


Did not like his explanation for the reason IWU/WashU and Hope/Wooster brackets were paired together rather than flipping them in some fashion.  Vague.

[calvin_grad]

Jordan Brink, and Tyler Kruis share player of the week honors.

From what I saw at DeVos on Saturday, both honors are well-deserved.  The Knights will miss these two next year.  (Or is Jordan Brink returning?) .

Calvin seniors are DeVries, Kruis, and Mast.

Brink is actually a fourth year junior but I think his staying/going will depend on his offers to play overseas or he could be a potential GR Cyclone 

That's right.  Forgot about that.

[sac]

Here's the thing: good teams don't get blown out like that (that goes for both schools). The bad thing for Hope is not how many losses they had, it is how one-sided most of those losses were - the worst being to Albion, but the most painful being Saturday. I don't see either team doing a lot of damage in this tournament. Hope is still young, though, and I think getting into the tournament will give them some valuable experience and serve them well for next year, when they may well be able to make a deeper run (depending on recruiting and so forth).

Whitewater, Illinois Wesleyan were both blown out this weekend.

[knightvision]

Let's say Calvin wins the league like they were favored to and beats Hope 3 times making Hope a  true Pool C candidate and not a league champion that lost in the tournament.

Hope       .680/.550/ 1-7

Does this get in?  and would we be praising Matt Neil's difficult schedule or would we be left  wondering if a couple easier non-conference wins would have done the trick?

The risk of a couple easier non-conference wins is that your announcers may not count them as wins at all

A few cupcakes are alright, but overloading on the whole pan usually does more harm than good for both the team and the fans.  I'm recalling the posts earlier in the year regarding the poor MIAA non-conference performance as a whole, and part of the problem is the league is just not very good right now.  Here's hoping that changes in the coming years....

Regarding Calvin and Hope and their tourney prospects, my gut tells me about exactly what it told me before all 3 of the Hope v Calvin games--I honestly won't be surprised by any result in their first game(s).  Both teams have some significant enough flaws that make it rather unlikely they make a deep run...but hey, it's March, right? 

[HopeConvert]

Here's the thing: good teams don't get blown out like that (that goes for both schools). The bad thing for Hope is not how many losses they had, it is how one-sided most of those losses were - the worst being to Albion, but the most painful being Saturday. I don't see either team doing a lot of damage in this tournament. Hope is still young, though, and I think getting into the tournament will give them some valuable experience and serve them well for next year, when they may well be able to make a deeper run (depending on recruiting and so forth).

Whitewater, Illinois Wesleyan were both blown out this weekend.

It was either Luke Winn or Grant Wahl who looked at contending teams and concluded that no contender ever had a loss of x number of points or more (don't recall whether it was 20 or 30). I'd say the same for both those schools: in a conference tourney to lose by that much doesn't augur well. I remember thinking to myself when the 2011-2012 team played Adrian in the conference final that it looked like a team that had peaked already and teams were figuring them out. There's nothing I saw in either game last week that makes me think Hope is prepared to make a run in the NCAA's, and getting blown out on your home court like that by your arch-rival, well...

[goodknight]

Jordan Brink, and Tyler Kruis share player of the week honors.

From what I saw at DeVos on Saturday, both honors are well-deserved.  The Knights will miss these two next year.  (Or is Jordan Brink returning?) .

Calvin seniors are DeVries, Kruis, and Mast.

Brink is actually a fourth year junior but I think his staying/going will depend on his offers to play overseas or he could be a potential GR Cyclone 

It's my understanding that he'll be a fifth-year senior next academic year and will use his fourth year of eligibility.

[KnightSlappy]

Let's say Calvin wins the league like they were favored to and beats Hope 3 times making Hope a  true Pool C candidate and not a league champion that lost in the tournament.

Hope       .680/.550/ 1-7

Does this get in?  and would we be praising Matt Neil's difficult schedule or would we be left  wondering if a couple easier non-conference wins would have done the trick?

Or if the NCAA simply calculates SOS correctly: .760/.529/2-4 would have put them much further back on the bubble. Instead of hosting, we could be talking about Hope missing out.

William Paterson missed out at .778/.515/4-3

[calvinite]

It's my understanding that he'll be a fifth-year senior next academic year and will use his fourth year of eligibility.

GoodKnight, you bring good news to us Knights. That's huge if it's true, and I guess it's just as huge if it's false.

[HOPEful]

Jordan Brink, and Tyler Kruis share player of the week honors.

From what I saw at DeVos on Saturday, both honors are well-deserved.  The Knights will miss these two next year.  (Or is Jordan Brink returning?) .

Calvin seniors are DeVries, Kruis, and Mast.

Brink is actually a fourth year junior but I think his staying/going will depend on his offers to play overseas or he could be a potential GR Cyclone 

It's my understanding that he'll be a fifth-year senior next academic year and will use his fourth year of eligibility.

NVA for Hope is in the same boat. However, he has everything he needs to graduate this year and would be coming back next year just for basketball...

[KnightSlappy]

It's my understanding that he'll be a fifth-year senior next academic year and will use his fourth year of eligibility.

GoodKnight, you bring good news to us Knights. That's huge if it's true, and I guess it's just as huge if it's false.

That's also what he had indicated prior to returning last season, that he would be intending to use the fifth year. I think if he was not planning to -- or at least if the team knew he wasn't planning to -- he would have been honored with the Seniors during the final home game of the regular season.

[HOPEful]

As a dreamer, I started working out Hope's chances of hosting the next round and realized they are much better than I would have thought... On merit, they would be fourth in line (Washington, IWU, and Wooster ahead of them)

However, Washington to Wooster is 519 miles, and we know the NCAA will avoid paying for flights whenever possible. If all four #1 seeds win, the next round will almost for surely have to be at Illinois Wesleyan (merit, central location, nice gym, etc.)

But IWU is the only #1 seed in this quadrant that will have to beat a higher ranked team (d3hoops.com) in order to move on (St. Norbert)... If St. Norbert beats IWU and the four teams moving on are Wooster, Washington, St. Norbert, and Hope, Hope is the only school that the other three can get to without flying.

[HOPEful]

Listening to the interview on Hoopsville with National Chair Steve Ulrich, he made it sound like Hope's primary reason for hosting was being #2 in the Great Lakes Region. 


Did not like his explanation for the reason IWU/WashU and Hope/Wooster brackets were paired together rather than flipping them in some fashion.  Vague.

I'm just happy to have avoided going to UWWW or UWSP.

[SKOT]

As a dreamer, I started working out Hope's chances of hosting the next round and realized they are much better than I would have thought... On merit, they would be fourth in line (Washington, IWU, and Wooster ahead of them)

However, Washington to Wooster is 519 miles, and we know the NCAA will avoid paying for flights whenever possible. If all four #1 seeds win, the next round will almost for surely have to be at Illinois Wesleyan (merit, central location, nice gym, etc.)

But IWU is the only #1 seed in this quadrant that will have to beat a higher ranked team (d3hoops.com) in order to move on (St. Norbert)... If St. Norbert beats IWU and the four teams moving on are Wooster, Washington, St. Norbert, and Hope, Hope is the only school that the other three can get to without flying.

While I think its silly to even be talking about something so unlikely to happen, lets make it even less likely.  Lets say the above scenerio happens and the Hope women advance through the weekend and would be the best choice to host, but there is another venue that could host and not involve flights. 

Would the NCAA let the Hope women host and force a flight on the men's side? Or, would the Hope men host to keep from having more teams fly?

[KnightSlappy]

As a dreamer, I started working out Hope's chances of hosting the next round and realized they are much better than I would have thought... On merit, they would be fourth in line (Washington, IWU, and Wooster ahead of them)

However, Washington to Wooster is 519 miles, and we know the NCAA will avoid paying for flights whenever possible. If all four #1 seeds win, the next round will almost for surely have to be at Illinois Wesleyan (merit, central location, nice gym, etc.)

But IWU is the only #1 seed in this quadrant that will have to beat a higher ranked team (d3hoops.com) in order to move on (St. Norbert)... If St. Norbert beats IWU and the four teams moving on are Wooster, Washington, St. Norbert, and Hope, Hope is the only school that the other three can get to without flying.

While I think its silly to even be talking about something so unlikely to happen, lets make it even less likely.  Lets say the above scenerio happens and the Hope women advance through the weekend and would be the best choice to host, but there is another venue that could host and not involve flights. 

Would the NCAA let the Hope women host and force a flight on the men's side? Or, would the Hope men host to keep from having more teams fly?

My understanding is that Women get priority so they'd have to settle for a flight on the men's side. In that case Wooster would probably have to fly down to Wash U (with Hope and St. Norbert busing).

[HOPEful]

As a dreamer, I started working out Hope's chances of hosting the next round and realized they are much better than I would have thought... On merit, they would be fourth in line (Washington, IWU, and Wooster ahead of them)

However, Washington to Wooster is 519 miles, and we know the NCAA will avoid paying for flights whenever possible. If all four #1 seeds win, the next round will almost for surely have to be at Illinois Wesleyan (merit, central location, nice gym, etc.)

But IWU is the only #1 seed in this quadrant that will have to beat a higher ranked team (d3hoops.com) in order to move on (St. Norbert)... If St. Norbert beats IWU and the four teams moving on are Wooster, Washington, St. Norbert, and Hope, Hope is the only school that the other three can get to without flying.

While I think its silly to even be talking about something so unlikely to happen, lets make it even less likely.  Lets say the above scenerio happens and the Hope women advance through the weekend and would be the best choice to host, but there is another venue that could host and not involve flights. 

Would the NCAA let the Hope women host and force a flight on the men's side? Or, would the Hope men host to keep from having more teams fly?

You're assuming Hope would host ahead of DePauw on the women's side. I don't know if they do... And playing @ Carthage is a scary matchup. With two girls out with torn ACLs, it's not a given that Hope wins this one...