MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[HOPEful]

My critique was more of symantics than of actually believing that either teams' players were ill prepared for any of their meetings. Neil is 8-4 against Calvin. I will take 2 out of 3 every day (and twice on Sundays) He doesn't seem to have a problem motivating them to win.

I didn't think you were allowed to do that.

You're right! By twice on Sunday I mean the amount of times I attend my RCA, not CRC, church!

[scottiedawg]

While the pre-game posts can often reach eye-rolling inane levels :-), the banter between HopeConvert and oldknight was top notch entertainment.  Reminds me of when HopeConvert was a prof of mine.

[oldknight]

While the pre-game posts can often reach eye-rolling inane levels :-), the banter between HopeConvert and oldknight was top notch entertainment.  Reminds me of when HopeConvert was a prof of mine.

With apologies to Dave McHugh and Hoopsville:

From Eastern to Occidental,
From Oliver Wendell Douglas to Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.,
From Hope to Calvin
Nobody covers D3 basketball like the MIAA board.


Thankfully

[sac]

Behrend made a stop on their way to Holland.

http://www.goerieblogs.com/sports/oncampus/2014/03/behrend-to-practice-at-michigans-crisler-arena-before-ncaas/

[SBell]

Behrend made a stop on their way to Holland.

http://www.goerieblogs.com/sports/oncampus/2014/03/behrend-to-practice-at-michigans-crisler-arena-before-ncaas/

Their coach spoke at U-M's clinic a couple years ago, along with Ric Wesley.

[HopeConvert]

"Both games showed that teams will try and look and exploit weaknesses," said center Nate VanArendonk, who averages 10.2 points and 6.5 rebounds. "I'm not sure that's a good thing, but it served as a wake-up call."

As a general moral judgment, that's probably right, but I'm not sure how it stands up as a basketball judgment, where exploiting the opponent's weaknesses sounds like pretty sound strategy.  I once had a colleague from England, who didn't really get basketball, and he thought the idea of an "intentional foul" a peccadillo - demonstrating there is no place for Kantians in sports. Of course, being from England, he thought soccer (or, as he called it, "football") a jolly grand game, so I found it difficult to take his judgments too seriously.

Holmes, the father of legal realism, would find your English friend's attitude to be rather quaint. The American jurist--whose legal philosophy included decoupling law and morality--opined that a person's duty to keep an agreement merely means that you must pay damages if you do not keep it. In the case of committing an intentional foul, the "damages" simply allows your opponent to shoot free throws.

Of course, Holmes' decision in Buck v. Bell pretty much vacates any moral authority he might otherwise have. Three generations of imbeciles is enough. I'm not sure I want someone who "see(s) no reason for attributing to man a significance different in kind from that which belongs to a baboon or a grain of sand," protecting my rights. Or the rim.

Some contemporary political philosophers who smugly look down their noses at Holmes for his decision in Bell happily accept his reasoning when convenient for purposes of advancing the modern agenda. Holmes' reasoning was based on his belief that the purpose of the law is the deterrence of undesirable social consequences. Knowing you as I do, I'm confident you don't share the nauseating hypocrisy of your class.

No Social Darwinist I. If we really want to make this interesting there is another poster on here [calling PL] who can engage us on Jonathan Haidt's The Righteous Mind, a book that has some serious philosophical and anthropological problems, and tries to understand why "good" people disagree about religion, politics, and basketball. Haidt focuses (in a contestable way) on the tendency of persons to be driven by group interests, and focuses on values of fairness, care, loyalty, authority, sanctity, and liberty. Haidt argues that Hope fans score high on fairness, care and liberty, while Calvin fans score high on authority and sanctity. Given my moniker, I'll let others judge who scores highest on loyalty.

I'm just happy that top-notch entertainment reminded scottiedawg of class.

Yeah, it's game day.

[HOPEful]

Since we are diving deep today on the MIAA board, Wheaton coming to Hope raises a psycological question that I have pondered before, and find myself pondering again today. With all the studies done on the topic, has anyone researched the effect sharing team colors has on "home field advantage"? On some, perhaps sub-conscious level, will Wheaton players feel more "at home" tonight than Rose Hulman due to being surrounded by orange and blue? If Wheaton and Hope both win tonight, will the Dew Crew be less effective on Saturday night because whenever a Thunder player looks in their direction, they will see a "friendly" shade of orange rather than a more "hostile" shade of green, black, or red?

[sac]

At this point, I'm very glad I have to be in a car soon. 

[Flying Dutch Fan]

At this point, I'm very glad I have to be in a car soon. 

Amen to that

[HopeConvert]

Since we are diving deep today on the MIAA board, Wheaton coming to Hope raises a psycological question that I have pondered before, and find myself pondering again today. With all the studies done on the topic, has anyone researched the effect sharing team colors has on "home field advantage"? On some, perhaps sub-conscious level, will Wheaton players feel more "at home" tonight than Rose Hulman due to being surrounded by orange and blue? If Wheaton and Hope both win tonight, will the Dew Crew be less effective on Saturday night because whenever a Thunder player looks in their direction, they will see a "friendly" shade of orange rather than a more "hostile" shade of green, black, or red?

This is a front-runner for my annual "Post of the Year" award.

[oldknight]

Since we are diving deep today on the MIAA board, Wheaton coming to Hope raises a psycological question that I have pondered before, and find myself pondering again today. With all the studies done on the topic, has anyone researched the effect sharing team colors has on "home field advantage"? On some, perhaps sub-conscious level, will Wheaton players feel more "at home" tonight than Rose Hulman due to being surrounded by orange and blue? If Wheaton and Hope both win tonight, will the Dew Crew be less effective on Saturday night because whenever a Thunder player looks in their direction, they will see a "friendly" shade of orange rather than a more "hostile" shade of green, black, or red?

This is a front-runner for my annual "Post of the Year" award.

HollandKnight, no doubt, is deeply disappointed. I don't think he's ready to relinquish the crown.

[sac]

HollandKnight has correctly archived his award on his tag line

"Owner of the 2013 Post of The Year voted by HopeConvert"


Seth has a shot in 2014 I think, it all depends on his mindset and whether he wants to defeat the other posters or just post along with them.


"...and on that bombshell, goodnight"

[HOPEful]

HollandKnight has correctly archived his award on his tag line

"Owner of the 2013 Post of The Year voted by HopeConvert"


Seth has a shot in 2014 I think, it all depends on his mindset and whether he wants to defeat the other posters or just post along with them.


"...and on that bombshell, goodnight"

"Both posts showed that the fans will try and look at other teams and exploit weaknesses. I'm not sure that's a good thing, but they served as a wake-up call."

[KnightSlappy]

Does the Calvin Game start at 6:00 or 6:30 (EST)?  miaa.org says 6:30 but the live stream wiz posted says 6:00.  I'll probably only get to watch the second half but the start time will determine when I put my kids to bed.

6:30 ET according to the Wash U. website

http://bearsports.wustl.edu/Sports/Content/Pages/2014NCAABasketballRegional.aspx

They might be starting the video stream at 6:00, if you want a center court view of pre-game warmups.

[GoKnights68]

Calvin up by 12 at the half, 37-25.  Kruis showing why he's the MIAA MVP.