MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I went to the game Ursinus played against Penn last year (also over the holiday break), while it wasn't an exhibition, the Penn coached talked about how important it was for his team to have a warm-up game after finals to get back into the swing of things heading into conference play.  Making it an exhibition just takes the pressure off Miami (if there was going to be any), but it seems like this is a standard notion from coaches - getting an easier non-con game into the schedule to work off whatever rust they have.

Maybe Miami doesn't take the kind of break the Ivies do for finals, but it's not a bad idea over the holidays.

[HOPEful]

Wow. Great insights sac and Ryan! 

[gordonmann]

I don't think Olivet has a chance to beat Miami (Ohio), but Wilmington did a couple years ago.

[hoopsfan3213]

New Topic I'd like to discuss: K College NCAA penalties.

I know we have all heard rumblings about the NCAA violation penalties at K College, well...there are some new developments.

Previously the Men's Basketball team was one of 6/7 teams on campus that DID NOT have the option to repackage. What I mean by NOT repackaging is that every member of the 2017/18 graduation class on the Hoop Squad would be able to KEEP their current financial aid package & roster spot, and the team would serve the 2 year post-season ban. As oppose to other teams on campus (Tennis for example) would have the players that the NCAA deemed to have received extra financial aid pay it and be immediately eligible for the post season.

However, the NCAA has now ruled that K's execution of the NCAA's penalties was NOT what they had intended. Now, EVERY TEAM on campus is being repackaged. Which means that each player across EVERY SPORT graduating in 2017/18 financial aid is being looked into and potentially decreased, leaving some player at risk to have to pay more money to play. By doing so, the situation is 100% individually based now. If the player can't afford the increase in tuition they can't play on the team. They can keep the current package and NOT be on their respective roster. This will allow all teams to rid itself of the players that were given too much aid and WILL ALL BE IMMEDIATELY ELIGIBLE FOR POST SEASON PLAY.
Since AT LEAST 1 PLAYER ON EACH TEAM IS BEING REPACKAGED, what this means for new HC Jay Smith and company they have the chance to lose 1 or many of the roster/playing time dominate Junior and Senior Class (Potentially the whole starting 5).

Players at Risk to not be on the roster for the upcoming season:
Chase Baysdell 6'6 F (2017) -2nd Team MIAA. Team Leader and Top Player
Adam Dykema 6'3 G (2017) - Starting 2 guard most of the year.
Josh Miller 6'9 C (2017) - Team's starting C every game when healthy.
Jake/Josh Whitey 6'6 G/F (2017) - Both have started & played significant minutes in the past years.
**Tommy Cerven G (2017) - Not affected because he transferred in last year.
Charlie Carson 6' G (2018) - Bench Scorer. Potential to fill starting PG roll.
Roger Hood 6'5 F (2018) – Started a few games and very long and versatile. Plays 2-4 for the team.
Jason Hugan  6'8 F/C (2018)- Athletic, Strong Big coming back to the team after Dougal firing.
Jimmy Paprocki 6'9 C (2018)- Solid Back-Up C. Getting better.

Although K had a pitiful year last year. There is talent for Smith to put together a solid team this year. But we will see in the coming months that the roster may be dramatically smaller (Numbers wise & HEIGHT WISE). All we can do is hope that these kids aren't affected too drastically and can finish their collegiate careers in a similar/ unchanged financial position.

[sac]

The Kzoo thing made it to Reddit which is always fascinating reading on so many levels.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/4y2sup/we_are_a_diii_football_program_that_has_suffered/

The only thing I'll add is Kzoo College chose to appeal which opened the door for the NCAA to change its mind about its repackaging remedy.  They didn't have to do that.  While its a tough situation for a number of student athletes the fault lies on the school for both incorrectly awarding financial aid in the first place but for also appealing something they weren't going to win.

I do feel for some of the student athletes that apparently received fairly large financial aid awards based on their athletic participation and are now left with very little time to make a tough decision or find a new school.  I might imagine some would have fairly decent legal standing in a court somewhere, but that's not my field.

[KnightSlappy]

The Kzoo thing made it to Reddit which is always fascinating reading on so many levels.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/4y2sup/we_are_a_diii_football_program_that_has_suffered/

The only thing I'll add is Kzoo College chose to appeal which opened the door for the NCAA to change its mind about its repackaging remedy.  They didn't have to do that.  While its a tough situation for a number of student athletes the fault lies on the school for both incorrectly awarding financial aid in the first place but for also appealing something they weren't going to win.

I do feel for some of the student athletes that apparently received fairly large financial aid awards based on their athletic participation and are now left with very little time to make a tough decision or find a new school.  I might imagine some would have fairly decent legal standing in a court somewhere, but that's not my field.

Is there an actual report on why Kalamazoo is being forced to repackage aid now, or is the college simply unwilling to accept the three-year postseason ban?

The original report indeed gave them the option to continue giving the impermissible aid and instead serve a ban. http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/kalamazoo-college-failed-monitor-financial-aid

[sac]

Kzoo appealed in April or May, I don't believe the NCAA has made public the appeal ruling yet but sent a letter to Kzoo with their decision essentially forcing Kzoo to repackage all student athletes before the start of Fall season.  Since football had both the largest student athletes affected and closest to starting I'm sure the NCAA felt a need to expedite things.

I don't know that the NCAA makes appeal rulings public, seems like they do.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

According to HoopDirt.com, Adrian is ready to name Kyle Lindsay as new head basketball coach.  Lindsey (an Adrian alum) has been an assistant at Trine since 2011.

Link to the article:  http://hoopdirt.com/diii-dirt-adrian-college-set-to-name-new-head-coach/

[sac]

His Trine bio
http://trinethunder.com/sports/mbkb/coaches/lindsay?view=bio

I can't remember the last MIAA assistant to be hired as a head coach at a rival MIAA school.  Hargraves is as close as I can get but he didn't go from Calvin to Alma.

[sflzman]

Former Alma guard Jason Beckman has transferred to Hope...

Ouch 

[sac]

Hey Jason


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Beckman to Hope was always a quiet possibility this summer given his parents background.  Hope's already a pretty guard heavy team with Carlson, Hawkins, O'Brien, Dreyer  with likely JV call-up Pete Smith and Fr. Riley Lewis.  If Beckman does play hoops, and he would certainly fit in the talent category with Hawkins/Carlson, that is one crowded back court.

Jason would be Jr. eligible this year and looking to be the Sr. starting PG in 2018.  He'll certainly push for it this year probably.

[Gregory Sager]

So the MIAA doesn't have a rule preventing a student-athlete who transfers from one member school to another from playing immediately? The CCIW has a rule that any student-athlete who transfers from one CCIW school to another has to sit out a calendar year in the sport in which he participated at his previous school.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

So the MIAA doesn't have a rule preventing a student-athlete who transfers from one member school to another from playing immediately? The CCIW has a rule that any student-athlete who transfers from one CCIW school to another has to sit out a calendar year in the sport in which he participated at his previous school.

Correct, no such restriction in the MIAA. I'm actually rather surprised that any D3 conference would have such a rule. Non scholarship student first mentality of D3 in my mind makes such a rule unnecessary.

[sac]

So the MIAA doesn't have a rule preventing a student-athlete who transfers from one member school to another from playing immediately? The CCIW has a rule that any student-athlete who transfers from one CCIW school to another has to sit out a calendar year in the sport in which he participated at his previous school.

I can only think of 2 or 3 times this has ever come up in our league in basketball.


Many, many years ago a Hope JV player transferred at Christmas to Alma.  I view Beckman as the player to be named later.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Many Division III conferences do not have a restriction or at least the coach will sign off on it. The very idea of restrictions is that coaches are poaching players from the competition and at higher divisions and conferences where there is more at stake and scholarships are in place, I understand the idea. However, in Division III where there are so many factors outside of sports in play as to why a student wants to transfer schools, the idea that there are no restrictions should be applauded. No point in hurting a student if they have other issues at play.

Same idea that transfering down from D1 to D2 or to D3 (or D2 to D3) doesn't have any restrictions, but transfering UP from D3 to D2 or D1 (D2 to D1) carries a one year waiting person (i.e. Duncan at Michigan).