MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[almcguirejr]

What is an appropriate penalty for Hargraves to receive for bumping an official?

Is it going to come from Alma or the league?

I'm thinking at least 2 games.

[sac]

Any predictions on the penalty Hargraves is going to receive?

Is it going to come from Alma or the league?

I'm thinking at least 2 games.

I think it might come down to if there is good video of it somewhere.  Otherwise you're relying on officials accounts.  What I saw was Hargraves bump the official once earning the 2nd T and then a second time after he had already been ejected.  It depends on how people interpret the last bump in my opinion, others might not think it was as I bad as I did.   I also wasn't able to see how Hargraves left the floor, that might also be important.

I don't believe the MIAA has any guidelines for automatic suspension for coaches being ejected from a game or I'm not aware of one.  So it probably comes down to what Alma's AD decides.

I would not be surprised if he wasn't suspended, disappointed, but not surprised.  This was a pretty bad incident and set a bad example for the young men and women the MIAA purports to educate.  Some kind of suspension seems appropriate IMO.   I can't think of a precedent though.

[sflzman]

Any predictions on the penalty Hargraves is going to receive?

Is it going to come from Alma or the league?

I'm thinking at least 2 games.

I think it might come down to if there is good video of it somewhere.  Otherwise you're relying on officials accounts.  What I saw was Hargraves bump the official once earning the 2nd T and then a second time after he had already been ejected.  It depends on how people interpret the last bump in my opinion, others might not think it was as I bad as I did.   I also wasn't able to see how Hargraves left the floor, that might also be important.

I don't believe the MIAA has any guidelines for automatic suspension for coaches being ejected from a game or I'm not aware of one.  So it probably comes down to what Alma's AD decides.

I would not be surprised if he wasn't suspended, disappointed, but not surprised.  This was a pretty bad incident and set a bad example for the young men and women the MIAA purports to educate.  Some kind of suspension seems appropriate IMO.   I can't think of a precedent though.

I also think it is important to note that this is Hargrave's second incident, after making contact with a player down at JCU last year in the NCAA tournament.

That could certainly play into the decision making process when considering as suspension.

[GreatScot!?]

Any predictions on the penalty Hargraves is going to receive?

Is it going to come from Alma or the league?

I'm thinking at least 2 games.

I think it might come down to if there is good video of it somewhere.  Otherwise you're relying on officials accounts.  What I saw was Hargraves bump the official once earning the 2nd T and then a second time after he had already been ejected.  It depends on how people interpret the last bump in my opinion, others might not think it was as I bad as I did.   I also wasn't able to see how Hargraves left the floor, that might also be important.

I don't believe the MIAA has any guidelines for automatic suspension for coaches being ejected from a game or I'm not aware of one.  So it probably comes down to what Alma's AD decides.

I would not be surprised if he wasn't suspended, disappointed, but not surprised.  This was a pretty bad incident and set a bad example for the young men and women the MIAA purports to educate.  Some kind of suspension seems appropriate IMO.   I can't think of a precedent though.

I also think it is important to note that this is Hargrave's second incident, after making contact with a player down at JCU last year in the NCAA tournament.

That could certainly play into the decision making process when considering as suspension.

2nd incident?? Can you please get your facts straight before you post things like that please? At JCU Hargraves separated Jason from fighting a JCU player who jumped on him in a skirmish for a loose ball. Jason may have been elbowed/punched in the head which caused Hargraves to separate them (right in front of his bench), and complain to the officials about this. Most importantly, the JCU player received the technical, not Hargraves. So this could hardly qualify as an incident, unless your docking him for having his players back...

[sac]

I was finally able to view all of the Hope/Alma game just wanted to pass on my thanks to the Alma crew for the great broadcast of the game Saturday.  I was really impressed with their preparation for both squads and throwing in nuggets that you could only get from really doing your homework.  I found their handling of the game very even handed and honest.  Top notch all-around.

Nice halftime interview with Todd Blackledge, starts at about 1:13:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdrpzE1s46U

[GreatScot!?]

Sam Hargraves will be serving a 1 game suspension Wednesday against Calvin

[almcguirejr]

Sam Hargraves will be serving a 1 game suspension Wednesday against Calvin

It seems to be on the light side to me.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Sam Hargraves will be serving a 1 game suspension Wednesday against Calvin

It seems to be on the light side to me.

I was thinking it seemed about right to me

[almcguirejr]

Sam Hargraves will be serving a 1 game suspension Wednesday against Calvin

It seems to be on the light side to me.

I was thinking it seemed about right to me

It's good he got at least a game.  IMO when you physically bump an official that deserves more. Also, just the way he carried on after he received the 2nd T showed him to be out of control.  I thought he bumped Van Dyken when he was trying to go back at Parks.  But, again, the MIAA took some action and that's a good thing.

[sflzman]

Any predictions on the penalty Hargraves is going to receive?

Is it going to come from Alma or the league?

I'm thinking at least 2 games.

I think it might come down to if there is good video of it somewhere.  Otherwise you're relying on officials accounts.  What I saw was Hargraves bump the official once earning the 2nd T and then a second time after he had already been ejected.  It depends on how people interpret the last bump in my opinion, others might not think it was as I bad as I did.   I also wasn't able to see how Hargraves left the floor, that might also be important.

I don't believe the MIAA has any guidelines for automatic suspension for coaches being ejected from a game or I'm not aware of one.  So it probably comes down to what Alma's AD decides.

I would not be surprised if he wasn't suspended, disappointed, but not surprised.  This was a pretty bad incident and set a bad example for the young men and women the MIAA purports to educate.  Some kind of suspension seems appropriate IMO.   I can't think of a precedent though.

I also think it is important to note that this is Hargrave's second incident, after making contact with a player down at JCU last year in the NCAA tournament.

That could certainly play into the decision making process when considering as suspension.

2nd incident?? Can you please get your facts straight before you post things like that please? At JCU Hargraves separated Jason from fighting a JCU player who jumped on him in a skirmish for a loose ball. Jason may have been elbowed/punched in the head which caused Hargraves to separate them (right in front of his bench), and complain to the officials about this. Most importantly, the JCU player received the technical, not Hargraves. So this could hardly qualify as an incident, unless your docking him for having his players back...

In my opinion, (and many others) had this been a division 1 game with the use of the video monitor and all of that, Hargraves likely would have been tossed.

While it was good that he had his player's back, there's certainly a line that cannot be crossed.

I figured that two games was appropriate, and 1 probably would have sufficed so this seems pretty on point.

[Gregory Sager]

Sam Hargraves will be serving a 1 game suspension Wednesday against Calvin

It seems to be on the light side to me.

I was thinking it seemed about right to me

It's good he got at least a game.  IMO when you physically bump an official that deserves more. Also, just the way he carried on after he received the 2nd T showed him to be out of control.  I thought he bumped Van Dyken when he was trying to go back at Parks.  But, again, the MIAA took some action and that's a good thing.

Do you know for sure that it was the MIAA who suspended him? After all, the suspension could've been imposed by the Alma administration. I noticed that GreatScot!? didn't post a link to a source when he reported the suspension, and an online search didn't turn up any press releases or stories on the suspension being handed out.

[almcguirejr]

From Sam Hargraves:

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1361429413929480&id=318116148260817

[almcguirejr]

Sam Hargraves will be serving a 1 game suspension Wednesday against Calvin

It seems to be on the light side to me.

I was thinking it seemed about right to me

It's good he got at least a game.  IMO when you physically bump an official that deserves more. Also, just the way he carried on after he received the 2nd T showed him to be out of control.  I thought he bumped Van Dyken when he was trying to go back at Parks.  But, again, the MIAA took some action and that's a good thing.

Do you know for sure that it was the MIAA who suspended him? After all, the suspension could've been imposed by the Alma administration. I noticed that GreatScot!? didn't post a link to a source when he reported the suspension, and an online search didn't turn up any press releases or stories on the suspension being handed out.

Greg, I made an assumption it was the league that suspended him.  Sam Hargraves Facebook post does not clarify who suspended him either.

[Gregory Sager]

Yeah, I noticed that. It was a good apology, though. Whether he was prodded into writing it or not, he took ownership of his actions and acknowledged his need to live up to the standards of his program, school, and conference.

[GreatScot!?]

Sam Hargraves will be serving a 1 game suspension Wednesday against Calvin

It seems to be on the light side to me.

I was thinking it seemed about right to me

It's good he got at least a game.  IMO when you physically bump an official that deserves more. Also, just the way he carried on after he received the 2nd T showed him to be out of control.  I thought he bumped Van Dyken when he was trying to go back at Parks.  But, again, the MIAA took some action and that's a good thing.

Do you know for sure that it was the MIAA who suspended him? After all, the suspension could've been imposed by the Alma administration. I noticed that GreatScot!? didn't post a link to a source when he reported the suspension, and an online search didn't turn up any press releases or stories on the suspension being handed out.

Greg, I made an assumption it was the league that suspended him.  Sam Hargraves Facebook post does not clarify who suspended him either.

The MIAA doesn't have any rules in place, so the suspension ultimately came down from Alma