MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[oldknight]

Mike Phelps -- Calvin
Kyle Phelps -- Hope  (eventually)

Yup. Should have remembered that. And I stand corrected on whether a high quality player ever had a son who competed for their rivalry opponent. Mickey was a conference MVP at Calvin.

[goodknight]

Mike Phelps -- Calvin
Kyle Phelps -- Hope  (eventually)

Yup. Should have remembered that. And I stand corrected on whether a high quality player ever had a son who competed for their rivalry opponent. Mickey was a conference MVP at Calvin.

Chip Henry was a high-quality All-MIAA player for three years at Hope College in the 1980s -- one year as MVP. Chip's son, whose name I don't recall, was not exactly a Chip off the old block. He was a very solid high school player at Rockford before coming to Calvin. The young man played JV ball for some or all of his freshman year. I don't recall if he ever played on the varsity, and I'm not sure if he stayed on at Calvin as a student for his undergrad education. I do recall that some of the Calvin faithful, oldknight included (before his flirtation with short-term memory issues), were very surprised that Chip's kid would come to Calvin.

[sac]

Mike Phelps -- Calvin
Kyle Phelps -- Hope  (eventually)

Yup. Should have remembered that. And I stand corrected on whether a high quality player ever had a son who competed for their rivalry opponent. Mickey was a conference MVP at Calvin.

Kyle Phelps had a fine high school career playing for dad at Holland Christian, he went to a school in Florida and either red-shirted or sat out a year before returning to Holland where he enrolled at Hope.  His Soph. year he and Josh Canaan formed a nice duo off the bench on Hope's 1998 Final Four team.  Phelps shot over 40% from 3 on the year in only about 10 min avg game action. 

Kyle appeared in only 20 games the next and just 1 game his Sr. year for reasons and details I cannot remember.

[KnightSlappy]

Mike Phelps -- Calvin
Kyle Phelps -- Hope  (eventually)

Yup. Should have remembered that. And I stand corrected on whether a high quality player ever had a son who competed for their rivalry opponent. Mickey was a conference MVP at Calvin.

Chip Henry was a high-quality All-MIAA player for three years at Hope College in the 1980s -- one year as MVP. Chip's son, whose name I don't recall, was not exactly a Chip off the old block. He was a very solid high school player at Rockford before coming to Calvin. The young man played JV ball for some or all of his freshman year. I don't recall if he ever played on the varsity, and I'm not sure if he stayed on at Calvin as a student for his undergrad education. I do recall that some of the Calvin faithful, oldknight included (before his flirtation with short-term memory issues), were very surprised that Chip's kid would come to Calvin.

Brent Henry appeared in 3 games for a total of 8 minutes for the Knights in the 2011-12 season.

[Young Knight 14]

Mike Phelps -- Calvin
Kyle Phelps -- Hope  (eventually)

Yup. Should have remembered that. And I stand corrected on whether a high quality player ever had a son who competed for their rivalry opponent. Mickey was a conference MVP at Calvin.

Chip Henry was a high-quality All-MIAA player for three years at Hope College in the 1980s -- one year as MVP. Chip's son, whose name I don't recall, was not exactly a Chip off the old block. He was a very solid high school player at Rockford before coming to Calvin. The young man played JV ball for some or all of his freshman year. I don't recall if he ever played on the varsity, and I'm not sure if he stayed on at Calvin as a student for his undergrad education. I do recall that some of the Calvin faithful, oldknight included (before his flirtation with short-term memory issues), were very surprised that Chip's kid would come to Calvin.

Brent Henry appeared in 3 games for a total of 8 minutes for the Knights in the 2011-12 season.

Brent (dino) Henry did not finish undergrad at Calvin and instead joined the military.  His younger sister did follow in their father's footsteps and attended Hope.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

If I remember correctly, Chip Henry married a Calvin
grad (love is truly blind), meaning Brent followed mom versus dad.

[knightvision]

If I remember correctly, Chip Henry married a Calvin
grad (love is truly blind), meaning Brent followed mom versus dad.

I prefer to think that he married up

[calvinite]

Is this a thing, OK? Is there a documented precedent of a father playing for one Rivalry school and the son playing for the other?

The mind reels.

I've probably got this wrong, but I thought Nick Kronemeyer's grandfather (Don) played for Hope. Well, I know Don Kronemeyer played for Hope, but I thought Nick was his grandson. Not father-son, but a similar situation -- which I probably have wrong anyway.

[sac]

Wed. Jan. 10, 2018    Calvin @ Hope
Sat.  Feb. 3, 2018   Hope @ Calvin 

3rd and 10th game days of MIAA play

[oldknight]

Several decades ago I brought a 9th grader to play summer pick-up ball at Calvin prior to my senior year.  I told people then and I tell them now that he probably could have started for Calvin at that time.  Like Tillman, he ended up at MSU.  Some of you might be familiar with a guy by the name of Matt Steigenga.... I can recall trying to guard him 1 summer later after I graduated (when he was 16) and can vividly recall being dunked on in a way that never occurred in my 4 years at Calvin.  Whole different level....

Well I can vividly recollect oldknight, an aging yet crafty veteran that he was, picking knightvision's pocket in the Hudsonville league about 20 years ago. Now that was a whole different level . . . .

[knightvision]

Several decades ago I brought a 9th grader to play summer pick-up ball at Calvin prior to my senior year.  I told people then and I tell them now that he probably could have started for Calvin at that time.  Like Tillman, he ended up at MSU.  Some of you might be familiar with a guy by the name of Matt Steigenga.... I can recall trying to guard him 1 summer later after I graduated (when he was 16) and can vividly recall being dunked on in a way that never occurred in my 4 years at Calvin.  Whole different level....

Well I can vividly recollect oldknight, an aging yet crafty veteran that he was, picking knightvision's pocket in the Hudsonville league about 20 years ago. Now that was a whole different level . . . .

I vividly recall thinking at the time  that I had never been triple-teamed before.   

[oldknight]

Several decades ago I brought a 9th grader to play summer pick-up ball at Calvin prior to my senior year.  I told people then and I tell them now that he probably could have started for Calvin at that time.  Like Tillman, he ended up at MSU.  Some of you might be familiar with a guy by the name of Matt Steigenga.... I can recall trying to guard him 1 summer later after I graduated (when he was 16) and can vividly recall being dunked on in a way that never occurred in my 4 years at Calvin.  Whole different level....

Well I can vividly recollect oldknight, an aging yet crafty veteran that he was, picking knightvision's pocket in the Hudsonville league about 20 years ago. Now that was a whole different level . . . .

I vividly recall thinking at the time  that I had never been triple-teamed before. 

When oldknight is harassing you, I'm sure it feels like a triple team.

[Winifred Durfee]

A bit off topic, but it is the off-season: check out this video if you have a half hour to spare. "The System" at is finest? worst? You decide. 258 points by one team in a game (or 253, depending on your interpretation).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4afzQyGo5Q

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Per Twitter, Kalamazoo gets 6'9" Owen Jozefowicz from Berkley

[Flying Dutch Fan]

From the Great Lakes Region room:

The 2017 Great Lakes Invitational at Marietta College game schedule was released this morning...should be a fun weekend of competitive basketball.

Friday, November 17, 2017:
2:00 p.m. — Wittenberg (18-9) vs. Mount St. Joseph (20-7)
4:00 p.m. — Birmingham-Southern (14-14) vs. St. John Fisher (23-6)
6:00 p.m. — St. Thomas (19-8) vs. Dickinson (16-11)
8:00 p.m. — Marietta (26-5) vs. Hope (23-7)

Saturday, November 18, 2017:
1:00 p.m. — Wittenberg vs. Birmingham-Southern
3:00 p.m. — Hope vs. St. John Fisher
5:00 p.m. — Mount St. Joseph vs. Dickinson
7:00 p.m. — Marietta vs. St. Thomas

Should be a fun weekend of basketball.  Link to the full details on the Marietta site:

http://pioneers.marietta.edu/news/2017/3/30/mens-basketball-great-lakes-invitational-game-schedule-set.aspx?path=17gli