MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[RFMichigan]

That's really strange for a couple reasons, one being Battle Creek Central doesn't use the Fieldhouse as a basketball facility much anymore, they have a relatively new gym with 1/100th the character.  Two, Olivet is going to have to tape the floor with the college lines.


Battle Creek Central Fieldhouse is truly one of Michigan's great old "barns"

I believe that there used to be a "hanging scoreboard" hanging above center court which gave the place a "big time" effect.

[KnightSlappy]

It looks like Cutler has some major roof issues. Yikes!

https://twitter.com/CoachHargraves/status/1212037011130982400

[Gregory Sager]

Ouch. I hope that there's no permanent water damage to the floor.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

That certainly doesn't look like something with a quick fix

[scottiedawg]

# Hope Men's Basketball, 2019-2010 season though 2018-2019 season.  (I've defined that as the past decade)
* Calculated AVG per game per year for PTS, REB, AST, BLK, STL (and subtract TO).

## Highest sum of those per game per year averages:
1. Nate Snuggerud, 77.4
2. Ben Gardner, 73.4
3. Dante Hawkins, 69.8
4. Harrison Blackledge, 67.7
5. Brock Benson, 67.0
6. David Krombeen, 59.4
7. Jason Beckman, 54.6
8. Alex Eidson, 54.3
9. Nate VanArendonk, 44.3
10. Cody Stuive, 44.3
11. Will Bowser, 44.2
12. Teddy Ray, 43.4
13. Peter Bunn, 42.9
14. Chad Carlson, 36.1
15. Preston Granger, 33.8
16. Colton Overway, 32.2
17. Riley Lewis, 31.8

## Highest average of those per game per year averages:
1. Jason Beckman, 27.3
2. Will Bowser, 22.1
3. Peter Bunn, 21.4
4. David Krombeen, 19.8
5. Nate Snuggerud, 19.4
6. Ben Gardner, 18.4
7. Chris Nelis, 18.2
8. Dante Hawkins, 17.5
9. Harrison Blackledge, 16.9
10. Preston Granger, 16.9
11. Brock Benson, 16.7
12. Colton Overway, 16.1
13. Riley Lewis, 15.9

## Highest sum of per game per year averages:
1. Jason Beckman, 2018-2019, 27.6
2. Jason Beckman, 2017-2018, 27.0
3. Harrison Blackledge, 2016-2017, 26.9
4. Nate Snuggerud, 2011-2012, 26.2
5. Will Bowser, 2010-2011, 25.1
6. Dante Hawkins, 2017-2018, 24.7
7. Dante Hawkins, 2016-2017, 24.3
8. Ben Gardner, 2015-2016, 23.1
9. David Krombeen, 2011-2012, 23.1
10. David Krombeen, 2010-2011, 22.7
11. Peter Bunn, 2009-2010, 22.6
12. Brock Benson, 2014-2015, 21.7
13. Riley Lewis, 2018-2019, 21.7
14. Brock Benson, 2015-2016, 21.4
15. Peter Bunn, 2011-2012, 20.3
16. Colton Overway, 2012-2013, 20.1
17. Cody Stuive, 2016-2017, 20.0
18. Preston Granger, 2018-2019, 19.4
19. Ben Gardner, 2013-2014, 19.4
20. Will Bowser, 2009-2010, 19.1
21. Nate Snuggerud, 2012-2013, 19.1
22. Nate Snuggerud, 2010-2011, 18.7


# Calvin
## Highest sum of those per game per year averages:
1. Tom Snikkers, 79.5
2. Jordan Brink, 75.0
3. Tyler Kruis, 63.2
4. Jordan Daley, 56.7
5. Bryan Powell, 50.1
6. Derrick DeVries, 46.2
7. Tyler Dykstra, 43.1
8. Austin Bykerk, 42.9
9. Mickey DeVries, 42.7
10. Michael Wilks, 40.8
11. Cam Denney, 38.6
12. Austin Parks, 34.6
13. Tony Canonie, 32.0
14. Danny Rodts, 30.7
15. Brent Schuster, 29.4
16. Jason Walter, 28.5
17. John Mantel, 23.5
18. Tony DeWitte, 20.9
19. Brad Schnyders, 20.4
20. Luke Morrison, 16.9

## Highest average of those per game per year averages:
1. John Mantel, 23.5
2. Derrick DeVries, 23.1
3. Tyler Kruis, 21.1
4. Cam Denney, 20.4
5. Tom Snikkers, 19.9
6. Jordan Daley, 18.9
7. Jordan Brink, 18.8
8. Luke Morrison, 16.9
9. Matt Veltema, 16.5
10. Michael Welch, 16.4
11. Danny Rodts, 16.0
12. Matt DeBoer, 15.4
13. Brent Schuster, 14.7
14. Tyler Dykstra, 14.4
15. Austin Bykerk, 14.3
16. Jason Walter, 14.3
17. Mickey DeVries, 14.2
18. Michael Wilks, 13.9

## Highest sum of per game per year averages:
1. Jordan Brink, 2014-2015, 26.5
2. Derrick DeVries, 2018-2019, 25.4
3. Jordan Daley, 2015-2016, 24.1
4. John Mantel, 2009-2010, 23.5
5. Tyler Kruis, 2013-2014, 23.0
6. Tom Snikkers, 2011-2012, 22.9
7. Cam Denney, 2016-2017, 22.8
8. Tom Snikkers, 2010-2011, 22.2
9. Jordan Brink, 2013-2014, 21.6
10. Tom Snikkers, 2012-2013, 21.1
11. Derrick DeVries, 2017-2018, 20.8
12. Tyler Kruis, 2011-2012, 20.1
13. Tyler Kruis, 2012-2013, 20.1
14. Austin Bykerk, 2017-2018, 19.4
15. Jordan Daley, 2014-2015, 18.8
16. Cam Denney, 2015-2016, 18.0
17. Danny Rodts, 2010-2011, 17.6
18. Mickey DeVries, 2013-2014, 17.6
19. Brent Schuster, 2010-2011, 17.4
20. Luke Morrison, 2017-2018, 16.9
21. Matt Veltema, 2009-2010, 16.5
22. Tyler Dykstra, 2014-2015, 16.5
23. Bryan Powell, 2012-2013, 16.5
24. Michael Welch, 2016-2017, 16.4
25. Michael Wilks, 2016-2017, 16.3
26. Matt DeBoer, 2011-2012, 15.4
27. Tyler Dykstra, 2013-2014, 15.3
28. Bryan Powell, 2011-2012, 15.3
29. Jordan Brink, 2012-2013, 15.2

* All of this is subject to my error!



## Hope All-Decade Team (my opinion)
* Nate Snuggerud
* Ben Gardner
* Dante Hawkins
* Harrison Blackledge
* Jason Beckman

* Will Bowser
* Peter Bunn
* David Krombeen
* Brock Benson


## Calvin All-Decade Team
* Tom Snikkers
* Jordan Brink
* Tyler Kruis
* Jordan Daley
* Bryan Powell

* Derrick DeVries
* Cam Denney
* Tyler Dykstra

[Jameswys]

By the looks of it, Olivet played some really good basketball today, and very few got to see it. I couldn't make the drive today and because of the venue change it wasn't live streamed. I did keep my eye on the live stats throughout the afternoon and Olivet was up big very early on, it tightened up towards the end of the half and then Olivet played a great 2nd half to close out the game. I think this was the complete performance I've been waiting to see (and will have to wait longer to actually see it). Olivet has had several really good looking halves this season and today they happened in the same game. Of note, Carthage had 3 technical fouls tonight.

Hopefully Cutler is back and ready to go soon, Coach Ernst has done an amazing job reigniting the enthusiasm for Men's basketball at Olivet and I'd like to see that keep going under Coach Hargreaves. That will be really hard to do if 'Home' games have to be in Battle Creek. Time will tell.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Olivet 88
Carthage 73

That's a huge win by a large margin for the Comets over #18 Carthage!!!

[sac]

ie Cutler, the roof is heavily slanted, I think the sprinkler system came on or a pipe burst.

I do have to backtrack on Battle Creek Central not using that gym often, apparently they've moved back to playing most if not all of their home games in the Fieldhouse.  Probably because the campus gym is so blah.

[almcguirejr]

I heard a water pipe was accidentally hit and broke.  The floor is a total loss.  Olivet is trying to determine what it will take to get the old gym ready for use.

[Jameswys]

Personally I'd rather have McKay be the varsity gym, as opposed to Upton. McKay is an Old School gym. The "bench" are is very tight to the sides and the fans are 12ish feet above the floor screaming down to the floor. I'd wager large amounts in Olivet's favor on McKay. It would be highly intimidating (during my pledging I had to play basketball on this court, it wasn't very intimidating for us, but it was for the teams after us as their alumni where more involved). The atmosphere would be the most intense in the country. 

[oldknight]

Personally I'd rather have McKay be the varsity gym, as opposed to Upton. McKay is an Old School gym. The "bench" are is very tight to the sides and the fans are 12ish feet above the floor screaming down to the floor. I'd wager large amounts in Olivet's favor on McKay. It would be highly intimidating (during my pledging I had to play basketball on this court, it wasn't very intimidating for us, but it was for the teams after us as their alumni where more involved). The atmosphere would be the most intense in the country.

A story from my time as a player on Calvin's JV team in another century, supports Jameswys' assessment of McKay's advantages for the Comets. The court was surrounded by the large wall, where even first row patrons---typically screaming invectives at the visiting team--were several feet above the hardwood. As a visiting player, it was enough to help me appreciate the intimidation factor the condemned felt when left to fend for themselves on the ancient Colosseum floor, awaiting the gladiator's dreaded entrance. I don't even need to embellish this story to make my point. McKay's playing surface left barely enough room for any out-of-bounds space. One end was reserved for Olivet students who may or may not have arrived at McKay before attending a local pub. I vividly recall seeing a huge loogie pass over my right shoulder just as I was inbounding the ball along the baseline. After reaching the other end of the court, I asked the ref what could be done with the rowdies who nearly expectorated on me. I have never forgotten the official's pithy recommendation: "Next time, inbound the ball quicker." Good advice, even if unwanted. To win by 10 at McKay, a visiting team needed to be about 20-25 points better than the home team. To this day, I have not seen a better home-court advantage than McKay Gymnasium.

[maroonandgold]

Olivet 88
Carthage 73

That's a huge win by a large margin for the Comets over #18 Carthage!!!

Olivet has really had some impressive wins!  It would be interesting to see some predictions for the final league standings at this point as compared to the preseason coaches predictions.  If I recall correctly, Olivet at that point was picked for last.  At some times Hope really looked outstanding, but recent events have really hurt them.  Alma has really had some good games, too.  Albion has been very consistent and has especially shown the ability to come from behind in several games.  Calvin has been very inconsistent.  Trine has been inconsistent, too, it seems to me.  I suspect the predictions will look quite different in many ways, but I think Albion still looks the best.  Just to give an idea, I will make the following (probably inaccurate) prediction.

     1.   Albion
     2.   Olivet
     3.   Trine
     4.   Calvin
     5.   Hope
     6.   Alma
     7.   Kalamazoo
     8.   Adrian

[Gregory Sager]

Personally I'd rather have McKay be the varsity gym, as opposed to Upton. McKay is an Old School gym. The "bench" are is very tight to the sides and the fans are 12ish feet above the floor screaming down to the floor. I'd wager large amounts in Olivet's favor on McKay. It would be highly intimidating (during my pledging I had to play basketball on this court, it wasn't very intimidating for us, but it was for the teams after us as their alumni where more involved). The atmosphere would be the most intense in the country.

A story from my time as a player on Calvin's JV team in another century, supports Jameswys' assessment of McKay's advantages for the Comets. The court was surrounded by the large wall, where even first row patrons---typically screaming invectives at the visiting team--were several feet above the hardwood. As a visiting player, it was enough to help me appreciate the intimidation factor the condemned felt when left to fend for themselves on the ancient Colosseum floor, awaiting the gladiator's dreaded entrance. I don't even need to embellish this story to make my point. McKay's playing surface left barely enough room for any out-of-bounds space. One end was reserved for Olivet students who may or may not have arrived at McKay before attending a local pub. I vividly recall seeing a huge loogie pass over my right shoulder just as I was inbounding the ball along the baseline. After reaching the other end of the court, I asked the ref what could be done with the rowdies who nearly expectorated on me. I have never forgotten the official's pithy recommendation: "Next time, inbound the ball quicker."

LOL!

[maroonandgold]

Olivet 88
Carthage 73

That's a huge win by a large margin for the Comets over #18 Carthage!!!

Olivet has really had some impressive wins!  It would be interesting to see some predictions for the final league standings at this point as compared to the preseason coaches predictions.  If I recall correctly, Olivet at that point was picked for last.  At some times Hope really looked outstanding, but recent events have really hurt them.  Alma has really had some good games, too.  Albion has been very consistent and has especially shown the ability to come from behind in several games.  Calvin has been very inconsistent.  Trine has been inconsistent, too, it seems to me.  I suspect the predictions will look quite different in many ways, but I think Albion still looks the best.  Just to give an idea, I will make the following (probably inaccurate) prediction.

     1.   Albion
     2.   Olivet
     3.   Trine
     4.   Calvin
     5.   Hope
     6.   Alma
     7.   Kalamazoo
     8.   Adrian

After posting the previous guess, I looked up the overall standings for MIAA teams and found that Olivet's success that were so impressive the last two weeks were quite a contrast with the previous results.  They lost by large margins to teams that others in the league fought much more closely.  Are the last two weeks due to changed personal, a fluke, or a sign of dramatic improvement?  It's interesting that the league standings based on non-league games comes much closer to the coaches predictions with Hope doing much better.  Anyone have a very clear idea on what it all means?

[Jameswys]

Olivet 88
Carthage 73

That's a huge win by a large margin for the Comets over #18 Carthage!!!

Olivet has really had some impressive wins!  It would be interesting to see some predictions for the final league standings at this point as compared to the preseason coaches predictions.  If I recall correctly, Olivet at that point was picked for last.  At some times Hope really looked outstanding, but recent events have really hurt them.  Alma has really had some good games, too.  Albion has been very consistent and has especially shown the ability to come from behind in several games.  Calvin has been very inconsistent.  Trine has been inconsistent, too, it seems to me.  I suspect the predictions will look quite different in many ways, but I think Albion still looks the best.  Just to give an idea, I will make the following (probably inaccurate) prediction.

     1.   Albion
     2.   Olivet
     3.   Trine
     4.   Calvin
     5.   Hope
     6.   Alma
     7.   Kalamazoo
     8.   Adrian

After posting the previous guess, I looked up the overall standings for MIAA teams and found that Olivet's success that were so impressive the last two weeks were quite a contrast with the previous results.  They lost by large margins to teams that others in the league fought much more closely.  Are the last two weeks due to changed personal, a fluke, or a sign of dramatic improvement?  It's interesting that the league standings based on non-league games comes much closer to the coaches predictions with Hope doing much better.  Anyone have a very clear idea on what it all means?

Olivet returned 7 players from last years roster. Only one of them is seeing any significant playing time. The rest of the core rotation are freshman and Juco transfers. I've watched as much as I could be at this year. At times it's looked like there are 5 dudes randomly on a court. But I'm the last few weeks it's looked like a team on the court. They are starting to trust each other and know each other tendencies. I wouldn't want to play this team in February.