MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

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Quote from: sac on February 24, 2020, 10:03:47 AM
Any ticket information for Friday and Saturday's games at Albion would be greatly appreciated?

Even if its hold your horses.

Calvin box office emailed this out today:

Albion is waiting to see what happens with Tuesday's games because that will dictate crowd sizes for Friday's games.  We will be getting at least 250 tickets to sell here at Calvin but possibly more.  I will send out another email later this week when I have more details.

So sounds like if it's Calvin-Hope they might be looking to split the session and give the schools more seats.

sac

Quote from: KnightSlappy on February 24, 2020, 10:59:26 AM
Quote from: sac on February 24, 2020, 10:03:47 AM
Any ticket information for Friday and Saturday's games at Albion would be greatly appreciated?

Even if its hold your horses.

Calvin box office emailed this out today:

Albion is waiting to see what happens with Tuesday's games because that will dictate crowd sizes for Friday's games.  We will be getting at least 250 tickets to sell here at Calvin but possibly more.  I will send out another email later this week when I have more details.

So sounds like if it's Calvin-Hope they might be looking to split the session and give the schools more seats.

Thank you, appreciated.

Friday game times of 5:30 and 8:00 suggest they've already split the sessions regardless of outcomes.


sac

Thinking about All-MIAA, here's mine

Derrick DeVries, Calvin   Sr.--MVP
Preston Granger, Hope  Jr.
Caden Ebeling, Albion    Jr.
Jamezell Davis Jr, Albion   Jr.
Jordan Harris, Adrian   Jr.
Cole Kleiver, Alma  So


Ryan Stevens, Alma  Sr.
Tanner Blyly, Kzoo  Sr.
Langston Johnson, Trine    Sr.
Marcus Winters, Trine   Sr.
Jeremy Kalonji, Adrian  Sr.
Quinton Armstrong, Albion So.

Garland, Shymanski Thigpen and  Reiter were close

I probably differ with Johnson who I think the coaches will put on first team over Kleiver.  Would really like to see Stevens get a first team nod who you could also swap with Kleiver.


DeVries ought to be unanimous MVP, he had the best season by gamescore of any MIAA player in the last decade.   My guess is they'll have a little debate about whether an Albion player should win MVP, but it should be a short one.    Winters will win the MIAA's defensive player of the year award for the third year in a row.

No award for it, but for Freshmen I had Olivet's Britton Angell beating out Evan Thomas, Hope followed by Brent Cox, Trine, Noah Wiswary, Olivet, Josh Palo, Albion and Clayton Dykhouse, Hope



Flying Dutch Fan

Quote from: sac on February 25, 2020, 11:26:56 AM
All-MIAA
https://www.miaa.org/sports/mbkb/2019-20/releases/AllMIAA2020

No real surprises from my perspective, except maybe for DPOY. 

Interesting that I went to the MIAA website to peruse the stats and the only stats currently available are team stats
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HoopsCoach

No arguments on MIAA squads or MVP. Imagine if DeVries had Sall driving him all along...

Tourney prediction time:

I think the way Alma is shooting and even overcoming deficits they get the win at Trine that has escaped them all year.

Hope-Adrian is a toss up. If Hope actually throws a look other than high ball screen to roll and replace to high low at them and can value the ball, I can see Hope winning. Those are both big ifs. Hope has been painfully predictable this back half especially. Adrian doesn't really have a homecourt edge other than Hope's long bus ride. But I see more of the same and a capper to the worst season for the Dutch since 1979.

Then give me Albion in a revenge win over Alma and Calvin to roll Adrian again. I'll ride the recent history of home hosts losing the title game the last handful of years and predict Calvin takes the NCAA berth. Maybe even making a run to the sweet 16. Albion is loaded for 2020-21 and Calvin will take a step back so as much as it pains me, the Knights get some things done into March riding the wave of urgency.

wiz

Quote from: HoopsCoach on February 25, 2020, 01:37:09 PM
No arguments on MIAA squads or MVP. Imagine if DeVries had Sall driving him all along...

Tourney prediction time:

I think the way Alma is shooting and even overcoming deficits they get the win at Trine that has escaped them all year.

Hope-Adrian is a toss up. If Hope actually throws a look other than high ball screen to roll and replace to high low at them and can value the ball, I can see Hope winning. Those are both big ifs. Hope has been painfully predictable this back half especially. Adrian doesn't really have a homecourt edge other than Hope's long bus ride. But I see more of the same and a capper to the worst season for the Dutch since 1979.

Then give me Albion in a revenge win over Alma and Calvin to roll Adrian again. I'll ride the recent history of home hosts losing the title game the last handful of years and predict Calvin takes the NCAA berth. Maybe even making a run to the sweet 16. Albion is loaded for 2020-21 and Calvin will take a step back so as much as it pains me, the Knights get some things done into March riding the wave of urgency.
DeVries was not poorly coached in prior years and he developed very well each year.  VandeStreek just didn't give him enough minutes.  Makeup of last year's squad was very different.  With a couple of bigs clogging up the interior, DeVries did not have the opportunity to get underneath as much and Bykerk was not as effective with the inside/out and couldn't handle the double team or shoot as well.  Major problem was minutes played.  Imagine what kind of records someone like Jordan Brink could have set if he were playing 35+ minutes per game!
Hope will lose at Alma.  Granger is a head case and will not be able to handle the pressure that Adrian will throw at him.  Trine/Alma will be a very interesting game to watch but I'm not betting on either team.  Albion and Calvin has potential to be a great game too, but Calvin cannot overlook their first game with either Adrian or Hope.

HoopsCoach

Quote from: wiz on February 25, 2020, 02:00:00 PM
Quote from: HoopsCoach on February 25, 2020, 01:37:09 PM
No arguments on MIAA squads or MVP. Imagine if DeVries had Sall driving him all along...

Tourney prediction time:

I think the way Alma is shooting and even overcoming deficits they get the win at Trine that has escaped them all year.

Hope-Adrian is a toss up. If Hope actually throws a look other than high ball screen to roll and replace to high low at them and can value the ball, I can see Hope winning. Those are both big ifs. Hope has been painfully predictable this back half especially. Adrian doesn't really have a homecourt edge other than Hope's long bus ride. But I see more of the same and a capper to the worst season for the Dutch since 1979.

Then give me Albion in a revenge win over Alma and Calvin to roll Adrian again. I'll ride the recent history of home hosts losing the title game the last handful of years and predict Calvin takes the NCAA berth. Maybe even making a run to the sweet 16. Albion is loaded for 2020-21 and Calvin will take a step back so as much as it pains me, the Knights get some things done into March riding the wave of urgency.
DeVries was not poorly coached in prior years and he developed very well each year.  VandeStreek just didn't give him enough minutes.  Makeup of last year's squad was very different.  With a couple of bigs clogging up the interior, DeVries did not have the opportunity to get underneath as much and Bykerk was not as effective with the inside/out and couldn't handle the double team or shoot as well.  Major problem was minutes played.  Imagine what kind of records someone like Jordan Brink could have set if he were playing 35+ minutes per game!
Hope will lose at Alma.  Granger is a head case and will not be able to handle the pressure that Adrian will throw at him.  Trine/Alma will be a very interesting game to watch but I'm not betting on either team.  Albion and Calvin has potential to be a great game too, but Calvin cannot overlook their first game with either Adrian or Hope.

Wasn't implying VandeStreek was a poor coach. He was quite good actually. I just think Sall's attention to conditioning and a bust your ass off-season is what helped DeVries make that step. I think Sall would have coached the last team around DD more too rather than the clogged middle approach.

I think all the games will be single digits, I'd just put dough in Calvin to win it for my reasons stated.

wiz

Quote from: HoopsCoach on February 25, 2020, 02:06:36 PM
Quote from: wiz on February 25, 2020, 02:00:00 PM
Quote from: HoopsCoach on February 25, 2020, 01:37:09 PM
No arguments on MIAA squads or MVP. Imagine if DeVries had Sall driving him all along...

Tourney prediction time:

I think the way Alma is shooting and even overcoming deficits they get the win at Trine that has escaped them all year.

Hope-Adrian is a toss up. If Hope actually throws a look other than high ball screen to roll and replace to high low at them and can value the ball, I can see Hope winning. Those are both big ifs. Hope has been painfully predictable this back half especially. Adrian doesn't really have a homecourt edge other than Hope's long bus ride. But I see more of the same and a capper to the worst season for the Dutch since 1979.

Then give me Albion in a revenge win over Alma and Calvin to roll Adrian again. I'll ride the recent history of home hosts losing the title game the last handful of years and predict Calvin takes the NCAA berth. Maybe even making a run to the sweet 16. Albion is loaded for 2020-21 and Calvin will take a step back so as much as it pains me, the Knights get some things done into March riding the wave of urgency.
DeVries was not poorly coached in prior years and he developed very well each year.  VandeStreek just didn't give him enough minutes.  Makeup of last year's squad was very different.  With a couple of bigs clogging up the interior, DeVries did not have the opportunity to get underneath as much and Bykerk was not as effective with the inside/out and couldn't handle the double team or shoot as well.  Major problem was minutes played.  Imagine what kind of records someone like Jordan Brink could have set if he were playing 35+ minutes per game!
Hope will lose at Alma.  Granger is a head case and will not be able to handle the pressure that Adrian will throw at him.  Trine/Alma will be a very interesting game to watch but I'm not betting on either team.  Albion and Calvin has potential to be a great game too, but Calvin cannot overlook their first game with either Adrian or Hope.

Wasn't implying VandeStreek was a poor coach. He was quite good actually. I just think Sall's attention to conditioning and a bust your ass off-season is what helped DeVries make that step. I think Sall would have coached the last team around DD more too rather than the clogged middle approach.

I think all the games will be single digits, I'd just put dough in Calvin to win it for my reasons stated.
i think were on the same page.  Hope's former coach was actually quite good too, wasn't he?

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maroonandgold

Sure has been a different and much more competitive MIAA this year!  I think it was really good for the league to be so challenging up and down the league.  Can anyone ever remember a year that Hope ended with a losing record for both the season and the league?  Or with the number of games won by the expected underdog?

sac

Adrian 83 Hope 73  Final

Let's just go right to the video shall we.  This is a 4 consecutive play sequence, Hope down 11 with 11 minutes and change to play.

Jordan Harris you have the floor......

https://youtu.be/Pkx3pvT2O1U?t=5746   "cash"

https://youtu.be/Pkx3pvT2O1U?t=5806  "also cash"

https://youtu.be/Pkx3pvT2O1U?t=5835  "phone nasa"

https://youtu.be/Pkx3pvT2O1U?t=5875

You think they'll let him shoot a 5th time.........ok
https://youtu.be/Pkx3pvT2O1U?t=5994   (didn't count)

That was fun!

If I'm honest Adrian has already started taking control of the game to the point I thought it was probably over, but Jordan Harris lifts the roof off the place here and they needed it because AC didn't have much going for them offensively after this and Hope could have very well been within a possession or two at the end without this sequence.  By "didn't have much going for them offensively after this" I mean one more field goa over the next 4 or 5 minutes before Hope really started putting them at the linel to finish the game.   Adrian has a Harris, Hope doesn't. The. End.

Going to be fun having Mr. Harris around for another season.


Hope:  Thomas 22, Granger 15, Dykhouse 13
Adrian:  Harris 25, Kalonji 17, Bellamy 12

Hope 3 guys went 17-42, Adrian's went 18-33, efficiency was really the difference between these two teams tonight.

sac

Hope's 12-14 record ends a 40 year streak of consecutive winning seasons.

To my knowledge and no one has been able to show me different, the D3 record is 40 consecutive winnings seasons held by Wittenberg and Hope.  Witt's streak ended in 2009, fwiw they had a "non-losing" season streak of 59 years ended in 2015.   

Next closest I've heard is Washington Univ who is on consecutive winning season 36, so they'll probably break that in 5 years. 



Disappointing season for Hope, no question.  Lots to work on for next year.