MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[KnightSlappy]

Calvin is the #3 with an Albion win (Calvin loss) and Trine loss I believe.

[sac]

Calvin is the #3 with an Albion win (Calvin loss) and Trine loss I believe.

Yes, I spent a lot of time trying to figure out which one I missed.  Thanks.

[sac]

Hope 71 Kalamazoo 55  F

The perfect match-up between a team coming off the big emotional high of a rivalry game and another playing its 5th game in 8 days.   There were a grand total of 19 fouls called in this game resulting in 11 free-throws and they had to look pretty hard to find even those fouls.

Hope for its part took care of its business, though nowhere near the precision they displayed Wednesday night.  Once Hope grabbed a 12-10 lead, they never relinquished it and spent a great deal of the game looking like the knockout punch was coming but never quite landing it.  It wasn't until the later half of half two that Hope finally put a double digit lead on the Hornets that stayed there. 

A little different game than the one Monday night at K, I don't think its wrong to say Kzoo didn't quite have the legs today but neither would they use that as an excuse.  They competed hard right to the end.  I think Kalamazoo deserves a ton of credit both for just completing their MIAA season but also in the manner in which they did it.  11 games in 20 days, 5 in the last 8, that is taxing physically and mentally.  Tuesday night in Holland should be a much tougher game.

Hope:  Thomas 17 and 13 rbs, McKenzie 16, George 13
Kzoo:   Courtney 16


Evan Thomas put the capper on a really fine MIAA campaign finishing with 17 pts  with a couple of "wow" moves in the lane and 13 rebounds.  He'll finish as the points and rebounds leader in league play joining Duane Bosma as the only other Hope player to officially lead the league in both categories.  Last points leader was Nate Snuggeruud in '12 and rebounds was Benson in '16.   Its here that I mention I think only 2 players have ever done both and not won the leagues MVP award. 


Congrats to Hope, picked to finish 4th, holding the championship trophy tonight. 

[oldknight]

Calvin nails down the second spot, by beating Albion 67-60, in what is a typical Albion game. For anyone familiar with MIAA men's hoops, you know exactly what is meant by the term "typical Albion game."

The two squads were back and forth the first 30 minutes of play, and neither team was able to establish control, With the visitors clinging to a 47-46 lead mid-way through the second half, the Knights held the Brits scoreless the next four minutes to grab a seven point lead that put Albion in a hole the rest of the way.

Calvin shot a miserable 5-24 from the arc today, but when Fruin made the last three-ball the Knights took in the game with just over three minutes left--and it went in--you had the sense the home team was predestined to win.

Marcus Bult's play was the difference maker, coming off the bench for a game-high 15 points. Albion really plays tough D, but I thought Calvin's defense took its toll on Albion. The Brits seemed tired the final 10 minutes of play.

[AlwaysHope]

Hope 71 Kalamazoo 55  F

The perfect match-up between a team coming off the big emotional high of a rivalry game and another playing its 5th game in 8 days.   There were a grand total of 19 fouls called in this game resulting in 11 free-throws and they had to look pretty hard to find even those fouls.

Hope for its part took care of its business, though nowhere near the precision they displayed Wednesday night.  Once Hope grabbed a 12-10 lead, they never relinquished it and spent a great deal of the game looking like the knockout punch was coming but never quite landing it.  It wasn't until the later half of half two that Hope finally put a double digit lead on the Hornets that stayed there. 

A little different game than the one Monday night at K, I don't think its wrong to say Kzoo didn't quite have the legs today but neither would they use that as an excuse.  They competed hard right to the end.  I think Kalamazoo deserves a ton of credit both for just completing their MIAA season but also in the manner in which they did it.  11 games in 20 days, 5 in the last 8, that is taxing physically and mentally.  Tuesday night in Holland should be a much tougher game.

Hope:  Thomas 17 and 13 rbs, McKenzie 16, George 13
Kzoo:   Courtney 16


Evan Thomas put the capper on a really fine MIAA campaign finishing with 17 pts  with a couple of "wow" moves in the lane and 13 rebounds.  He'll finish as the points and rebounds leader in league play joining Duane Bosma as the only other Hope player to officially lead the league in both categories.  Last points leader was Nate Snuggeruud in '12 and rebounds was Benson in '16.   Its here that I mention I think only 2 players have ever done both and not won the leagues MVP award. 


Congrats to Hope, picked to finish 4th, holding the championship trophy tonight.

Sac, I am sure Floyd Brady (1964 - 68) also led the MIAA in points and rebounds for more than one season.  He lead the league in scoring in 1966-67 and 1967 -1968 and was MVP both years.  He still holds the MIAA career record for rebounds but lost the MIAA career scoring record to Calvin's Mark Veenstra in 1977.  His MIAA points totaled 1,170 but I could not find the MIAA rebound total.

Brady totaled 2,004 points in 89 games over four seasons from 1964-68.  What is most impressive is that Brady played when the schedule had fewer games, and there was no 3 point play.

[sac]

Hope 71 Kalamazoo 55  F

The perfect match-up between a team coming off the big emotional high of a rivalry game and another playing its 5th game in 8 days.   There were a grand total of 19 fouls called in this game resulting in 11 free-throws and they had to look pretty hard to find even those fouls.

Hope for its part took care of its business, though nowhere near the precision they displayed Wednesday night.  Once Hope grabbed a 12-10 lead, they never relinquished it and spent a great deal of the game looking like the knockout punch was coming but never quite landing it.  It wasn't until the later half of half two that Hope finally put a double digit lead on the Hornets that stayed there. 

A little different game than the one Monday night at K, I don't think its wrong to say Kzoo didn't quite have the legs today but neither would they use that as an excuse.  They competed hard right to the end.  I think Kalamazoo deserves a ton of credit both for just completing their MIAA season but also in the manner in which they did it.  11 games in 20 days, 5 in the last 8, that is taxing physically and mentally.  Tuesday night in Holland should be a much tougher game.

Hope:  Thomas 17 and 13 rbs, McKenzie 16, George 13
Kzoo:   Courtney 16


Evan Thomas put the capper on a really fine MIAA campaign finishing with 17 pts  with a couple of "wow" moves in the lane and 13 rebounds.  He'll finish as the points and rebounds leader in league play joining Duane Bosma as the only other Hope player to officially lead the league in both categories.  Last points leader was Nate Snuggeruud in '12 and rebounds was Benson in '16.   Its here that I mention I think only 2 players have ever done both and not won the leagues MVP award. 


Congrats to Hope, picked to finish 4th, holding the championship trophy tonight.

Sac, I am sure Floyd Brady (1964 - 68) also led the MIAA in points and rebounds for more than one season.  He lead the league in scoring in 1966-67 and 1967 -1968 and was MVP both years.  He still holds the MIAA career record for rebounds but lost the MIAA career scoring record to Calvin's Mark Veenstra in 1977.  His MIAA points totaled 1,170 but I could not find the MIAA rebound total.

Brady totaled 2,004 points in 89 games over four seasons from 1964-68.  What is most impressive is that Brady played when the schedule had fewer games, and there was no 3 point play.

I don't know why but the MIAA has no rebounding leaders prior to 1993 in the records book, hence the "officially".  For Hope guys I'm sure Brady and probably Paul Benes maybe Chip Henry, Dan Shinabarger?  led the league in both categories among others.

[Pat Coleman]

Kind of surprised they haven't posted pairings yet. Olivet has to be 5 out of that group because they went 3-1 against the other two teams, but I don't know how they break the Adrian/Alma tie without knowing more about the tiebreakers.

[sac]

Here's your official MIAA quarterfinal pairings.  All games are 7pm Tuesday night.  You can order tickets online from the tournament page at MIAA.org  (nifty)


#8 Kalamazoo at #1 Hope
#5 Olivet at #4 Albion

#6 Adrian at #3 Trine
#7 Alma at #2 Calvin

[sac]

1.  Head-to-head
2.  combined record vs team ahead in standings
3.  record against individual teams in descending standings
4.  total conference road wins
5.  road record against each team start at top
6.  record in 2nd half of season
7.  in-region win total
8.  coin toss

The MIAA broke the 3-way tie between Olivet/Adrian/Alma this way:

Record vs each other
Olivet 3-1
Adrian 2-2
Alma 1-3

Alma was placed as the #7 seed, then the tie between Olivet/Adrian was broken and Olivet gets the #5 using tie-break #3 with two wins over Alma.


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My commentary:   This seems backwards, I would think you'd want to reward Olivet as the #5 seed first for going 3-1 vs the other two.  Then you break the tie between Alma/Adrian, which should have gone to Alma by reaching tie-break #3 and Alma beating Trine.

The MIAA applied the tie-breaker as written.

I deleted my previous tie-breaker posts just to avoid confusion since it didn't include this result.

[sac]

So apparently we are doing separate sites for the semi-final games at the higher seeds.  Which should be boo'd relentlessly.


It would be cool, if like, some of this info were public once in awhile.

[pointlem]

So apparently we are doing separate sites for the semi-final games at the higher seeds.  Which should be boo'd relentlessly.

I actually applaud that, Sac. It enables two schools to have home games (for themselves, their fans, and the revenue). And it precludes the chance of a tournament championship game before a near-empty house at a neutral site.

P.S. Is the Friday night separate sites for men only?

[Pat Coleman]

So apparently we are doing separate sites for the semi-final games at the higher seeds.  Which should be boo'd relentlessly.


It would be cool, if like, some of this info were public once in awhile.

I see that is what I have on our tracker too but I'm not sure where we get that from. Where do you see it written?

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Not sure how you all missed it. It was in the press release on Feb 3 when the MIAA announced they were moving to an 8 team tournament.   This is the last sentence of the 2nd to last paragraph:

" The highest-seeded team of each matchup throughout the tournament will serve as the host."


https://www.miaa.org/sports/mbkb/2021-22/releases/MIAATournamentUpdate

[sac]

Not sure how you all missed it. It was in the press release on Feb 3 when the MIAA announced they were moving to an 8 team tournament.   This is the last sentence of the 2nd to last paragraph:

" The highest-seeded team of each matchup throughout the tournament will serve as the host."


https://www.miaa.org/sports/mbkb/2021-22/releases/MIAATournamentUpdate

Yes I missed the tournament part, but I'd also like more transparency on things like tie-breakers and how they're broken.    Here's why we're doing it this way instead of this way. etc. 

I don't think that's to much to ask for sometimes.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Not sure how you all missed it. It was in the press release on Feb 3 when the MIAA announced they were moving to an 8 team tournament.   This is the last sentence of the 2nd to last paragraph:

" The highest-seeded team of each matchup throughout the tournament will serve as the host."


https://www.miaa.org/sports/mbkb/2021-22/releases/MIAATournamentUpdate

Yes I missed the tournament part, but I'd also like more transparency on things like tie-breakers and how they're broken.    Here's why we're doing it this way instead of this way. etc. 

I don't think that's to much to ask for sometimes.

Agree completely that transparency and communication are certainly not strengths of the MIAA.