MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[sac]

Jaxson Halbert is now listed on Hope's roster without a number.  Take it for what its worth?

[Flying Dutch Fan]

I'm not saying there's no path to varsity for the other freshmen. But if I was a "recruited" freshman and found myself on JV solely, with 6 other freshmen either on varsity or split between varsity and JV, I would assume I'm at best the #7 freshman at this point in time. Sure, a lot can happen in a year with growth on the court and in the weightroom, but intended or not, having 4 freshmen on both rosters does send a message to those that are not.

My point is NOT that the message is specific to ANY JVer ever. There are obviously countless examples of players that went from JV as freshmen on to solid starters and even stars as upperclassmen. My point is that it does send a message when you're specifically rostering/labeling 6 freshman differently than the others.

You also have to realize that the size/position/skills of a player has a lot to do with this as well.  Like where do you fall on the depth chart as a wing/3 player.  This year you might be 4th in line, but if there are 2 SRs ahead of you, then playing just on JV this year is maybe easier to accept. 

I do agree it does send a message - and the individual player has to choose how to take that.  For the best players (like those stars we think of who started on JV) I guarantee it was a motivator that drove them to work very hard to get better.  There are others who are not as accepting of this (keeping in mind that most of these guys were "the guy" or at least one of them on their HS teams).   

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Alma roster is up - 31 on the roster, guessing it later gets split into Varsity and JV.  The roster includes all 4 of the known "recruits".

https://almascots.com/sports/mbkb/2022-23/roster

[TUAngola]

Alma roster is up - 31 on the roster, guessing it later gets split into Varsity and JV.  The roster includes all 4 of the known "recruits".

https://almascots.com/sports/mbkb/2022-23/roster

Weird seeing an Alma roster without Cole Kleiver on it, it felt like he was at Alma for 8 years .  He always played well against us.

[sac]

Alma has certainly brought in the CC and transfer guys.

TyShaun Walker  Community College of Baltimore County Dundalk
Conner Riley   Benedictine
DeQuan Powell    Macomb CC
Evan Neff   Concordia, Mi
Paul Gadde  Albion JV
Cleveland Baker   Alpena CC

Young and Glenn transferred in last year.

A pretty big loss of Jr. to be Xavier Bargresser who has transferred to D2 Northwood.

[ziggy]

The D3Hoops.com preseason Top 25 poll is supposed to be released today. I thought Hope would be in fairly easily but it looks like they will be right on the bubble. So far I've seen seven ballots publicly released by individual voters and Hope was named on four of the seven and sit at number 25 overall for total poll points.
Full details with the seven known ballots here: https://twitter.com/d3datacast/status/1585270025589604353

[scottiedawg]

Hope 4th among Others Receiving Votes.

[ziggy]

Hope 4th among Others Receiving Votes.

Top 25: https://d3hoops.com/top25/men/2022-23/preseason

Calvin also receiving votes, though I don't know why at this point. Calvin had not been named on any of the seven publicly known ballots prior to the release of the full top 25 poll. Then again, Randolph-Macon came in a much more convincing number one than they were tracking as I was adding revealed ballots and Wabash went from unnamed to the most in the ORV section. Seems like the remaining ballots were more heavily influenced by last season than the ballots that were revealed by voters the last few days.

[pointlem]

#3 ranked Wisconsin Oshkosh plays at Calvin and Hope on successive nights, Nov 11 and 12--a great test for both teams.

[scottiedawg]

Hope 4th among Others Receiving Votes.

Calvin also receiving votes.

Ah, I missed that. I promise I wasn't throwing shade at HappyCalvinGuy 

[HOPEful]

Seems like the remaining ballots were more heavily influenced by last season than the ballots that were revealed by voters the last few days.

Yeshiva getting votes dispite losing Turell to the G League, Leifer, both Halperts, and Lasko. Those players accounted for 56 of the 59 points they scored in the playoff loss to Johns Hopkins.

Several, somewhere between a few and many, voters clearly mailed it in based off nothing more than last year's finish.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I'm pretty sure one voter submitted their final 2022 poll for this preseason ballot.  It's about the only explanation.

[Pat Coleman]

Seems like the remaining ballots were more heavily influenced by last season than the ballots that were revealed by voters the last few days.

Yeshiva getting votes dispite losing Turell to the G League, Leifer, both Halperts, and Lasko. Those players accounted for 56 of the 59 points they scored in the playoff loss to Johns Hopkins.

Many voters clearly mailed it in based off nothing more than last year's finish.

If many did, then you'd see Marietta and Elmhurst in the Top 10.

In fact, this "many" is actually four or five.

[HOPEful]

Many voters clearly mailed it in based off nothing more than last year's finish.

If many did, then you'd see Marietta and Elmhurst in the Top 10.

In fact, this "many" is actually four or five.

I think 16-20% of the voters is enough to use the word many.

[oldknight]

Many voters clearly mailed it in based off nothing more than last year's finish.

If many did, then you'd see Marietta and Elmhurst in the Top 10.

In fact, this "many" is actually four or five.

I think 16-20% of the voters is enough to use the word many.

Not necessarily. "Many" is a function of a raw number, not a percentage. For example, 50% of 2 is 1, and 1 isn't many. I don't believe 4 or 5 qualifies as many either. Just one man's opinion.

FWIW: The highly esteemed Mrs. OldKnight agrees with me -- red letter day in my life for sure.