MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[Civic Minded]

I think Civic Minded it just still bitter about all those players that contrubited to ending Hope's season last year when they beat them by 20+ points.

And all those players you named, I have no clue what you're talking about.  I don't think KVS will change his style of coaching.  He seems to know how to win and beat Hope by his current style of coaching.

PAYBACKS ARE A BITCH!

Slappy and 68:

Looks like you'll have to "listen" to us for a while longer.

LOL!  Nice one, NW!   

I must admit that today was just good fun, at least if you were wearing orange.  But as others have said, this rivalry is beyond real life, and you never can be sure of the outcome from game to game.  For today at least, there is joy in Dutchville.  The "Air Cramer" announcement on the Devosvision screen was a new touch - sweet!   

Still in all, hats off to the Knights' student fans (Knight Club?)for hanging right in there with there team, and cheering them on right to the end.  Although they were quiet at times (naturally) they didn't give up on their team.  Kudos!

The classic of the day was the slo-mo wave that the Dew Crew initiated.  Now that was funny.  I've never seen anyone able to get the gray-hairs involved in anything, yet there they were, rising briefly from their seats, arms flailing in the air in utter cooperation.  Unbelievable!   

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Great game with great defense by Hope.  Holding Draayer scoreless and Meckes with 2 pts (free throws) is really impressive.  Phillips was an animal on the boards - with 13.  He also outhustled everyone else on the floor for numerous loose balls.  The balance of Hope proved to be a problem again - not to mention the depth.

Anxious to hear any impressions from non-MIAA folks who caught the game on CSTV.  Gotta watch my tape of it, to see if there were any shots of the condiments.   

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Olivet beats Adrian 57-55.   I gotta say, I'm shocked to see the dogs down in last place at 0-4 in the league.

[goodknight]

Observant fans inside the DeVos today were well aware that  Calvin fans were participating in the "Wave" in their own way.  Personally, I was experiencing wave after wave of nausea.
It was painful to watch.  I expected a loss for the young Knights, but Hope was much, much more fundamentally sound after a slow start, and I expect that Andy Draayer is feeling pretty sick about laying such a formidable goose egg this afternoon.

[Britons09]

Does anyone see how Albion played today a sign of weakness, or more so just coming off a huge win of Hope the Britons were more of looking past Alma?

Here is to hoping Albone being ranked #1, and more press to MIAA running the D3 basketball national press.

Welcome to the board, though I don't know if Albion is going to end up with the top spot.

Pat i know you can't talk to much on it because you do have a vote, but how far out of reach would it be for Albion to get the number 1 spot? last week they had 2 #1 votes and beat Hope with 9, IWU just lost again which is 4 more votes that are up for grabs. Do you see Wooster moving to number 2, or Witt snagging the rest of the votes?

Do Briton fans need to bring up the win last year to wooster?.... even if it was a last second miracle shot.

Is more feasable that Lawernce will snag more votes being unbeaten...

also as a side question much does Albion's only loss to Michigan Dearborn hold up when it comes to votes and seeds to the NCAA's, with UofM Dearborn being NAIA?

[ziggy]

Hope played a good game today.  It can really only be attributed to one thing: Their Cheerleaders.  They did a great job getting that crowd pumped up for the home team.  They really create an atmosphere second to none that just wouldn't be possible without them.

I dont know when it will be but Hope will be in trouble one of these days.  I feel like they have the talent to make a run deep into the tournament but their free throw shooting is pretty bad.  When games get close around tournament time it could be the difference between finally winning one of those banners and coming away empty again.

[Pat Coleman]

It is not out of reach at all, I just don't think it's likely. It might be more likely now than it was this afternoon because of IWU's loss, but

even if it was a last second miracle shot.

At home ... and not against Wooster ... and by someone who doesn't play this year. But it's a nice memory for you nonetheless.

Will Lawrence get a No. 1 vote? I guess it's possible, but their opponents' record was significantly lower than the five teams ahead of them last week, which is why they didn't get a voter then. And yeah, in the eyes of the NCAA, your loss doesn't exist, unless in some extreme situation they need to break a tie between you and Ohio Northern for a Pool C slot, or seeding. (ONU, or any D-III team who beat UMD.)

[NW Hope Fan]

It can really only be attributed to one thing: Their Cheerleaders.  They did a great job getting that crowd pumped up for the home team.  They really create an atmosphere second to none that just wouldn't be possible without them.

Do I sense a bit of sarcasm? If so... obviously jealousy as well. Most of the Calvin alumni that I know (once they grow up) have told me how much they enjoy the Hope cheerleaders and wish Calvin students could "get over it" and have a squad themselves.

[bulldogalum]

Olivet beats Adrian 57-55.   I gotta say, I'm shocked to see the dogs down in last place at 0-4 in the league.

I was at the game tonight.  I feel absolutely sick.  Adrian was at least 20 points better than Olivet, but they found a way to lose.  It was absolutely painful to watch down the stretch.  Here's why they lost though:  24 turnovers, 40% from the free throw line, and MANY of those turnovers came in the last 10 minutes.  This is a good group of guys with enough skill to be competitive in this league, but they HAVE to get out of this funk they're in.  Unfortunately, they'll have to try to do it at Hope on Wednesday...lots of luck.

We've had Hope's number lately, but I'm not sure that'll matter much at Devoss, we'll see.

[hcach]

Bulldogalum, I agree it was a sickening game completely don't understand 2nd half pressing the themselves right out of the game. Glad to see AK get back into the game. Why hasn't he been playing in front of the freshman turnovers. Players seemed to play hard but bucks system,lineup sucks. Time for a big change in the staff to turn this program around.

[dbldrivel]

Bulldogs biggest problem in my opinion is their overall attitude, I'm not sure if this is inherited from their coach or just carried over from sometime in the past.
   Crying at nearly every foul called on them --  Diving, trying to draw fouls --
Even the home crowd seems like they are expecting the Refs. to win the game for them, or at least are trying to-- (get them on their side).
  I also think they have good talent and should be winning more games, but why don't they just SUCK IT UP and move on  - forget the officiating, smile,
       
         AND       PLAY BASKETBALL !!!

[BogeyMan]

Could someone tell me who won the Hope/Calvin JV game?  I know most people don't care, but I like to keep my on the young players.

[ScotsFan]

Do Briton fans need to bring up the win last year to wooster?.... even if it was a last second miracle shot.

I think the key word in your statement is "last year".  And the miracle shot was a DePree free throw with no time left on the clock.  I think the miracle shot you are referring to was against JCU. 

I feel, as good as the win on Wed. was for Albion, they didn't exactly impress with their narrow win over a not so good Alma team.  Meanwhile, Witt thumped a not so good Hiram team and won convincingly over a decent Earlham squad.  I think they stay #1.  Wooster also won convincinly at not so good Allegheny, but then went on the road yesterday to Wabash and won by 35!  IWU played at Wabash earlier in the year and only won by 12.  So, IMO, Wooster should stay number 2 followed closely by Albion. 

[bulldogalum]

Bulldogs biggest problem in my opinion is their overall attitude, I'm not sure if this is inherited from their coach or just carried over from sometime in the past.
   Crying at nearly every foul called on them --  Diving, trying to draw fouls --
Even the home crowd seems like they are expecting the Refs. to win the game for them, or at least are trying to-- (get them on their side).
  I also think they have good talent and should be winning more games, but why don't they just SUCK IT UP and move on  - forget the officiating, smile,
       
         AND       PLAY BASKETBALL !!!

I don't necessarily buy this attitude as a problem.  Complaining about fouls doesn't seem to keep Hope or Calvin from winning games, and they do plenty of it.  The key is not whether you complain about a call, but how quickly you recover from the bad call.  Adrian consistently has a good defensive series immediately following what they consider to be a bad call.  

As to the post before that, by hcach, I don't agree that they pressed themselves right out of the game.  Olivet scored some points off the Adrian press, but for the most part, Olivet's scoring runs came off Adrian turnovers.  Basically, when Olivet could beat Adrian back on defense, they had great success.  Plus, in all honesty, Olivet made a lot of forced, "bad" shots late in the shot clock.  For example, the last 3 that Olivet made came from 4 feet behind the arc toward the end of the shot clock from a 25% three point shooter.

Give it to Olivet, they played hard, and found a way to win the game.  Their guys made the plays when it counted, and now Adrian has to take a long hard look at themselves heading into the Hope game.

[MIdoubleA]

Could someone tell me who won the Hope/Calvin JV game?  I know most people don't care, but I like to keep my on the young players.

Hope pulled it out in the end.  Two players to watch for in the future:

Calvin - Brady Eilers
Hope - Ryan Rademaker