MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[GoKnights68]

Ziggy my fine friend, I must say I am surprised that there was no mention of Snoeyink on your second team.

He did have a strong second half, but I think next year(his senior year) is the year he'll get either first or second time miaa.

[mjfasteenwolf]

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It doesnt matter.  My reply wasn't necessary.  You obviously are a much more astute fan than mjfasteenwolf and Immink is a player to be appreciated but Hope and Calvin are hard teams to pick out players for individual recognition.  Thats it, over and done with.

Obviously more astute, what are you basing that on?

[ziggy]

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It doesnt matter.  My reply wasn't necessary.  You obviously are a much more astute fan than mjfasteenwolf and Immink is a player to be appreciated but Hope and Calvin are hard teams to pick out players for individual recognition.  Thats it, over and done with.

Obviously more astute, what are you basing that on?

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[MIAAFAN3002]

Nokovich is the best pt guard in the league.  If he played on Calvin, Albion, or Hope, He would average 10 assists a game.  There is noone on Adrian who can score.  He has been the best Pt gaurd in the league since his sophomore year. 

Adrian doesnt have a list for career assists.  They only have who is the all time leader.  Nokovich has to be in the top 5 i would think.  Maybe someone can find the answer to this...

[Pat Coleman]

Question for Pat Coleman, SAC, David Collinge, Greg Sager, etc...

How can Hope, ranked 5th in the Feb 15 NCAA regional rankings with a 14-2 regional record, still have that same 14-2 regional record today (Feb 19) after picking up 2 wins last week? I know the game against TriState yesterday (Feb 18) "doesn't count" in the eyes of the NCAA, but the win last Wednesday against Alma (Feb 15) should have counted, which would now make them 15-2.

What am I missing?

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http://www.d3hoops.com/dailydose/

A hah ... apparently Lakeland is a regional game and we didn't register it as such.

However, if that's true, it appears the Midwest rankings are wrong. Perhaps the Great Lakes knows something the Midwest doesn't.

[devossed]

Question for Pat Coleman, SAC, David Collinge, Greg Sager, etc...

How can Hope, ranked 5th in the Feb 15 NCAA regional rankings with a 14-2 regional record, still have that same 14-2 regional record today (Feb 19) after picking up 2 wins last week? I know the game against TriState yesterday (Feb 18) "doesn't count" in the eyes of the NCAA, but the win last Wednesday against Alma (Feb 15) should have counted, which would now make them 15-2.

What am I missing?

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(to see the rankings)

http://www.d3hoops.com/dailydose/

A hah ... apparently Lakeland is a regional game and we didn't register it as such.

However, if that's true, it appears the Midwest rankings are wrong. Perhaps the Great Lakes knows something the Midwest doesn't.

Thanks. I may not know much, but I thought I saw something odd there.

[tniem]

And someone who said that any Hope fan would agree Immink is the team MVP

That does not necessarily mean that he is first team MIAA material.  I thought your first team looked good.  I had a hard time with my first team with Hope guys because none of their stats are very impressive.  Too much sharing.  I think Greg epitomizes that attitude and is the heart of the team.  While I voted for him first team, it was very close.  I certainly think with the other strong PGs in the league that he could/should be bumped down.  In the end, I went with 4 pgs on the first team. 

[oldknight]

I had a hard time with my first team with Hope guys because none of their stats are very impressive.  Too much sharing.   

The problem is pretty much the same one the NBA had when picking its All-Star team. How do you leave Tayshaun Prince off? But how do you put 5 guys from the same team on?

[midline]

Congrats to Kyle Konwinski for being named MIAA player of the week. Nice to see someone from a squad other than "the big 3" get some accolades.

[John Rusnak]

I will caveat this and say I am jumping in without having read all of the posts from this weekend.

I saw the post about Crawford's shooting % this year at 65.6% and how he is 2nd all time.  I remember earlier in the year, at least after 10 gams or so, he was right under 70% 

Does anybody know what his shooting percentage, in the last 10, maybe 15 games, has been?  It obviously must have dropped...perhaps this gap explains some of Albion's woes lately?

Food for thought.

[AndersDY]

I don't know if you have seen Cramer play at all, but I truly believe his is the best athlete in the league. He is surrounded by a load of talent which keeps his minutes down, and he doesnt try to score and will, but I think he can score on anyone in the conference at any time. Good outside shooter, can take anyone to the rack, and can finish with the best of them, when he hangs up and hits this mid range jumpers over people its incredible.

Have a hard time agreeing with MJF about Nokovich since Immink has so much more talent to work with, but he did bring up a great point about Cramer. Because of the shared Hope scoring, Cramer has himself positioned somewhere between 1st or 2nd team, but he may be the best pure athlete on the floor. Every time I watch him, the word 'smooth' comes to mind; he always seems to have perfect control of his body and just has an efficiency of motion that makes a lot of things look effortless. I would be quite curious what he could do on less balanced team if he had to look to create scoring opportunities. He only has to do that occasionally now, but I would guess he might lead the league in 'how'd he do that?' reactions. Whether or not he's a first teamer based on output, he certainly is fun to watch.

[AndersDY]

I will caveat this and say I am jumping in without having read all of the posts from this weekend.

You missed the earlier post with season FG% stats. Crawford was .708 for '05-'06 which put his career number now at .656. He did finish above 70% for the year still.

[John Rusnak]

That's what I get for not really reading everything before I post, lol.

I asked because I thought it was strange because while his scoring maybe has been down a little lately, his % seemed to be ok from game to game, but since I don't look at every box score, I thought maybe something was up.

Is his % for this year any individal season record?  It's gotta be close.

[albionfan]

Well its been a long time since I have posted. Congatulations to the Calvin Knights for winning the MIAA.
I just had a few things that I thought I would throw out there.

As far as how many teams are going to get into the little big dance from the MIAA it is hard to say but this is what I believe. Albion has to win out. As impressive as their first half start was-you can not expect to get an at large bid if you lose 4 conference games-and one of them was to...err Tri-State. I do think that they have potential to do damage in the tourney but they have struggled down the stretch.

Hope is a shoe-in if they get to the MIAA semifinals. That is all they realisticly need. They are the most talented team in the nation-I don't think that anyone will disagree with me. The only way they dont get in is if they lose to Alma-and if their regional rakings this week are still at 5 or below, and still then the teams ahead of them would have to lose in their conference tournaments as well. Hope is in.

Calvin's situation is a little more difficult than Hope's. I think that Calvin has to get to the MIAA final game and make it a close one. In my 10 years of following the MIAA and D3 for that matter I can not recall very many teams getting an at large bid with 6 losses. Even with the field expanding this year with 11 (I believe) more bids-I think that it will be difficult to get those away from the Ohio schools.

As far as the ALL-MIAA honors go

MVP-Brandon Crawford-The only other candidate that you could give it to would have to be from the Conference Champions. I don't think that Calvin has one specific player that KVS would feel comfortable nominating. I there is no way that having a freshman as MVP would fly.

1st Team ALL MIAA

Brandon Crawford
Zak Silas
Andy Phillips
Stephen Cramer
Eric Voison
Kyle Trewhella
Caleb Veldhouse
Andy Draayer

2nd Team

Mike Bailey
Marcus VanderHeide
Greg Immink
Josh Meckes
Kyle Snoeyink
Jeff Nokovich
Deandre Pruitt-Senior season
Tyler Worst

Freshman of the Year-Caleb Veldhouse-Calvin

Coach of the Year-Kevin Vande Streek-Calvin

I know that my all conference teams look biased but really I think that that is the way that the coaches will decide. Phillips and Voison are seniors-just the way that Trewhella and Draayer are. I would personally like to see Immink on that 1st team but I think that he was overshadowed and underappreciated this year. KVS will make sure that Tre and Draay will get 1st team before the Franchise will(Veldhouse).
As far as the second team is cooncerened-you could put anyone else on there with the kids from Cal,Hope,Alb and it would not matter.

Happy readings and I look forward to a good week of Basketball at the Calvin Fieldhouse. Out.

[realist]

Albionfan:  I for one will disagree on Hope being the "most talented" team in D3, and I am sure so will many other posters in other chat rooms.  Granted Hope is stacked with lots of talent, but talent alone obviously doesn't make for an undefeated season.
Few things are more fun than when a humble little TEAM beats an obviously much more talented team.  Using your logic, and opinion the NCAA should just cancel the tourney this year, and give Hope  the trophy.  That route also leaves Albion out.
Hope is on the bubble because they are beatable, beat a bunch of weaker teams, and Albion (you are right) will need to win the MIAA to have a chance at the dance.  Undertalented Calvin has simply won the games they needed to win. 
I have tremendous respect for Hope, and their team, however, they wouldn't be stuck @ 5 in the region if they had played and beaten more highly rated teams.   The other option is just playing the MIAA in region,  and winning the MIAA, but they didn't even do that with all their talent.