MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[NW Hope Fan]

Picture of the suasage.  Don't know if it's been posted yet.

http://www.calvin.edu/publications/spark/2003/summer/images/mascot.jpg

Like I said before, leave the cheerleaders and mascots to Hope.  I hope when Calvin gets their new fieldhouse they don't get any bright ideas like this.

Cause Calvin can't do it any better???

Or is it: "To Hell with school spirit... Just showing up at the Calvin/Hope game in our yellow shirts is enough for Calvin students... Go Calvin!!!"

[Dark Knight]

A side note:  What is the NCAA record for team 3point percentage?  I have never seen a whole team shoot like Hope's....Check out their team and indie stats...only Wolfe (surprisingly since that was his game) and VanderHeide are under 40 % from 3 pt range.  Most of them shoot at least 45% from 2 point range....   Hard to guard team.  Maybe do what KZOO did and beat the diddley (Calvin swear word)  out of everyone and not worry about fouls, jsut keep 'em below 100. 

I did check out the individual 3-pt stats at the NCAA's stats site. No one from Hope is listed there in the individual stats, though Griffin of Calvin does come in at #15 in the nation and Veldhouse at #48.   

Of course Hope is #1 as a team...

[Dutch_Man]

I believe the 3-point guy started somewhere in the mid to late 90's. As far as I know Brian, who would have been a Hope class of '00, was the first one to do the tie-dyed shirt and the posting of the 3-point signs. Or did someone precede him even earlier in the 90's? I don't think they ever did the 3's stuff before they had all the Dew stuff, so I would imagine you could trace it right along with the Pepsi Co sponsership.

The first 3-man came in the '96-'97 season. And yes you are right, Bryan was the very first one. I am pretty sure it was Spanky who came up with the 3-man idea. I think it is great to see all of the traditions that the Dew Crew has and how they have been passed on from year to year, such as the 3-man, the referee shirt and the gorilla! I would kind of like to see the gorilla fight Dutch some time! I think I know who I would put my money on!

[ziggy]

After seeing that Calvin "knight" I am no longer even remotely concerned about "Dutch" embarassing Hope. Wow, that is one ugly face thing he has going on.

What is even worse (although I'm not sure for whom) is that Aurora has the same mascot, only replace the maroon with Blue.  Neckbrace 4 lyfe!

[HopeConvert]

As Sac points out Hope's guards are doing a heck of a job defensively.  At this point I think they will  handle most opposing guards.  Calvin (and other teams) have worked to get the ball inside with mixed results.  Like it or not, Hope has to be the odds on favorite for the MIAA championship, and tournament.  It is possible some other MIAA team might upset them, but doubt we will see that.  Yes, a team with a good inside game is going to give Hope some problems.  Especially if they have guards capable of dealing with the pressure they will be facing, and can actually get the ball inside.  An issue Calvin is repeatedly learning is "easier said than done".  All GVW needs to say to keep his teams feet on the ground are words like Carthage, and Wheaton.

I did not see the Carthage and Wheaton games but my inside the team source tells me Hope did not play together or share the ball much. 
The Calvin game, Calvin ran alot of high ball screens and slipped the pick and roll, catching Hope napping on the weak side.  There were very few "inside game " post moves to be seen.  Because of the way the postseason games are usually officiated, I would expect that a good big man will get the schnockers  (Dutch swear word)  beat out of him in the post by Reimink and Richardson (very physical kids) and they would double. 

A side note:  What is the NCAA record for team 3point percentage?  I have never seen a whole team shoot like Hope's....Check out their team and indie stats...only Wolfe (surprisingly since that was his game) and VanderHeide are under 40 % from 3 pt range.  Most of them shoot at least 45% from 2 point range....   Hard to guard team.  Maybe do what KZOO did and beat the diddley (Calvin swear word)  out of everyone and not worry about fouls, jsut keep 'em below 100. 

The issue there for Hope, I would think, is how many fouls they would have to give away on the inside. Calvin did beat Hope on the high screen, and I would expect hope would adjust, but part of the problem for Hope's defense that day was early foul trouble for Reimink (I don't have in front of me how many minutes he played, but it couldn't have been much). Richardson is undersized, and I don't know that either Klein or Kratz have the heft or toughness that Reimink and Richardson have. A lot would hinge on Osbourn, then, and I do like what I have seen from him the past couple of games. I think he is scrappy. In a closely officiated game Hope could be in some trouble. They do a lot of handchecking and hipriding, and a stricter ref could call some of those.

Hope's 3-point percentage is as good as it is because they do such a good job getting their shooters open looks. Calvin did a better job guarding them on the perimeter and rotating to the shooter on D, and this showed in Hope's percentage that game. Wolfe has been struggling with his shot lately - but he's a streaky player anyway. I doubt he'll stop shooting.

I think Calvin just really misses Trewhella. He was a heck of a player. I remember watching him at the end of the NCAA game last year, and you could see how badly he wanted it. That kind of grit and desire goes a long way.

[Civic Minded]

As Sac points out Hope's guards are doing a heck of a job defensively.  At this point I think they will  handle most opposing guards.  Calvin (and other teams) have worked to get the ball inside with mixed results.  Like it or not, Hope has to be the odds on favorite for the MIAA championship, and tournament.  It is possible some other MIAA team might upset them, but doubt we will see that.  Yes, a team with a good inside game is going to give Hope some problems.  Especially if they have guards capable of dealing with the pressure they will be facing, and can actually get the ball inside.  An issue Calvin is repeatedly learning is "easier said than done".  All GVW needs to say to keep his teams feet on the ground are words like Carthage, and Wheaton.

I did not see the Carthage and Wheaton games but my inside the team source tells me Hope did not play together or share the ball much. 

In addition, they were playing without Partridge and Holt, and at that time may have been thinking more along the lines of "when Holt's foot is better..."  In the meantime, they've become a different creature.  I'd love to see those matchups again at this point in the season.  It will be interesting to see what develops, but as others have pointed out, one game at a time.

[HopeConvert]

As Sac points out Hope's guards are doing a heck of a job defensively.  At this point I think they will  handle most opposing guards.  Calvin (and other teams) have worked to get the ball inside with mixed results.  Like it or not, Hope has to be the odds on favorite for the MIAA championship, and tournament.  It is possible some other MIAA team might upset them, but doubt we will see that.  Yes, a team with a good inside game is going to give Hope some problems.  Especially if they have guards capable of dealing with the pressure they will be facing, and can actually get the ball inside.  An issue Calvin is repeatedly learning is "easier said than done".  All GVW needs to say to keep his teams feet on the ground are words like Carthage, and Wheaton.

I did not see the Carthage and Wheaton games but my inside the team source tells me Hope did not play together or share the ball much. 

In addition, they were playing without Partridge and Holt, and at that time may have been thinking more along the lines of "when Holt's foot is better..."  In the meantime, they've become a different creature.  I'd love to see those matchups again at this point in the season.  It will be interesting to see what develops, but as others have pointed out, one game at a time.

I think we'd all like to see that. I'm not sure what difference Holt would have made, but Partridge clearly makes a difference, particularly on defense with those long arms.

[almcguirejr]

  Because of the way the postseason games are usually officiated, I would expect that a good big man will get the schnockers  (Dutch swear word)  beat out of him in the post by Reimink and Richardson (very physical kids) and they would double. 

Reimink and Richardson were both in foul trouble against Calvin's post players.  Also, a good big man would probably be very used to dealing with whatever R & R could dish out.  I don't think any quality post player is going to be shaking in his boots facing those 2.  I rather think they might be licking their chops. 

[Flying Dutch Fan]

I did check out the individual 3-pt stats at the NCAA's stats site. No one from Hope is listed there in the individual stats, though Griffin of Calvin does come in at #15 in the nation and Veldhouse at #48.   

The only reson for that is that the Hope players haven't made enough 3's to qualify (the NCAA qualification is 2.5 per game).  Here are the top 10 in the MIAA (all games)

1.Tim Partridge-HOPE-M.....      SR 16    22    43  .512
2.Derek Van Solkema-HOPE-M. JR 18    37    74  .500
   Jon Matych-KAZOO-M.......          13    16    32  .500
4.Jesse Reimink-HOPE-M.....    SO 18    19    40  .475
5.Derek Griffin-CALVIN-M...       JR 18    47   101  .465
6.Isaac Smith-ALMA-M.......       SR 18    33    72  .458
7.Stephen Cramer-HOPE-M....  SR 18    32    72  .444
8.Thomas Greer-KAZOO-M.....        15    17    40  .425
9.Wes Weir-TSU-M...........        FR 18    23    56  .411
10.Andy Sierminski-OLIVET-M. FR 18    31    76  .408

[HopeConvert]

In the future, I hope to see zany, though tasteful, highjinks from the mascot.

Like stealing banners.........or big yellow foamy hats

Again - so long as there are no ketchup or mustard stains. It may be a sorry commentary on my life, but the stolen banner prank was a highlight of it.

As someone closely involved in the "stolen" banner prank you all bring back the fondest of college memories. Go Hope!

And getting punched by the ref for your trouble.

[KnightSlappy]

  Because of the way the postseason games are usually officiated, I would expect that a good big man will get the schnockers  (Dutch swear word)  beat out of him in the post by Reimink and Richardson (very physical kids) and they would double. 

Reimink and Richardson were both in foul trouble against Calvin's post players.  Also, a good big man would probably be very used to dealing with whatever R & R could dish out.  I don't think any quality post player is going to be shaking in his boots facing those 2.  I rather think they might be licking their chops. 

Reimink and Richardson combined 8 fouls, 0 points, and 2 rebounds against a very mediocre Calvin frontcourt.  I don't think a quality big man would have much trouble against those two.

[sac]

What is the NCAA record for team 3point percentage?  I have never seen a whole team shoot like Hope's....

The NCAA record book has 2 categories based on minimum attempts

100 attempts........1989 New Jersey Inst. Tech 62% ....124-200
150 attempts.........1994 Eureka 49.1%.........317-646

Hope currently sits at 44.5%, which leads D3 at the moment, but to catch Eureka they'd have to go made crazy from 3 point land.  44.5 would be a pretty average NCAA D3 leader, there are at least 8 other end of season percentage leaders better.

Last year 41.4% or higher made the D3 top 10 list for teams and 43.3 led D3.

As for individuals, 45% or higher would get you ranked in the top 15 but you have to average 2.5 per game.


The 2007 NCAA record book is here

http://www.ncaa.org/library/records/basketball/m_basketball_records_book/2007/2007_m_basketball_records.pdf

Its a large pdf file so beware........but its a treasure trove of information.  Sometimes I've seen the book in bookstores, and I'm sure you can purchase it from the NCAA bookstore.

[wiz]

I did check out the individual 3-pt stats at the NCAA's stats site. No one from Hope is listed there in the individual stats, though Griffin of Calvin does come in at #15 in the nation and Veldhouse at #48.   

The only reson for that is that the Hope players haven't made enough 3's to qualify (the NCAA qualification is 2.5 per game).  Here are the top 10 in the MIAA (all games)

1.Tim Partridge-HOPE-M.....      SR 16    22    43  .512
2.Derek Van Solkema-HOPE-M. JR 18    37    74  .500
   Jon Matych-KAZOO-M.......          13    16    32  .500
4.Jesse Reimink-HOPE-M.....    SO 18    19    40  .475
5.Derek Griffin-CALVIN-M...       JR 18    47   101  .465
6.Isaac Smith-ALMA-M.......       SR 18    33    72  .458
7.Stephen Cramer-HOPE-M....  SR 18    32    72  .444
8.Thomas Greer-KAZOO-M.....        15    17    40  .425
9.Wes Weir-TSU-M...........        FR 18    23    56  .411
10.Andy Sierminski-OLIVET-M. FR 18    31    76  .408

Well, if you care about how many shots they took, then you can include the ever popular Josh Meckes who made 10-22 for .455 and his sidekick, Misha McCray with 5-11 and an equal .455.  And, don't forget the deadly Mike Zwier with a sizzling .500 mark!

[HopeConvert]

  Because of the way the postseason games are usually officiated, I would expect that a good big man will get the schnockers  (Dutch swear word)  beat out of him in the post by Reimink and Richardson (very physical kids) and they would double. 

Reimink and Richardson were both in foul trouble against Calvin's post players.  Also, a good big man would probably be very used to dealing with whatever R & R could dish out.  I don't think any quality post player is going to be shaking in his boots facing those 2.  I rather think they might be licking their chops. 

Reimink and Richardson combined 8 fouls, 0 points, and 2 rebounds against a very mediocre Calvin frontcourt.  I don't think a quality big man would have much trouble against those two.

I think that's a fair comment.

[ChicagoHopeNut]

In the future, I hope to see zany, though tasteful, highjinks from the mascot.

Like stealing banners.........or big yellow foamy hats

Again - so long as there are no ketchup or mustard stains. It may be a sorry commentary on my life, but the stolen banner prank was a highlight of it.

As someone closely involved in the "stolen" banner prank you all bring back the fondest of college memories. Go Hope!

And getting punched by the ref for your trouble.

I was punched by the ref!!! Oh was I mad too! I can only think of one person who would qualify as a Hope Convert that knows of that day. Would I be correct in asking if Thomas Jefferson is still one of your least favorite presidents?